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Stay Away from Grayson Dental In Mountain View, California

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RayBailey2@aol.com - 15 Apr 2006 17:12 GMT
"Avoid Grayson Dental in Mountain View."

I have nothing, but terrible things to say about them. I've been
with them for a year and a half. It wasn't bad at the start, but
my experience as a patient got worse and worse.

I recently had a root canal and a crown installed on a tooth at
Grayson Dental and it broke off in less than three weeks after
Grayson did the work. The reason the tooth broke off was
because the dentist there didn't install a post. I asked two other
dentists if a post should have been inserted for extra strength
and both (non-Grayson) dentists said absolutely. Grayson dental
avoided the extra work to insert a post to save themselves money
and time.

I called and called Grayson and E-mailed Grayson for a refund so
I could use the funds to try to resurrect this tooth. They didn't
even reply to my E-mail. I have tried many more times to get
reimbursed, but they refused to even write or call me back!! Finally
I gave up. Evidently, this is the outcome Grayson wanted. So not
only is their work very shotty, the business end is equally bad.

Grayson even charged me for the post x-ray to observe the degree of
damage of that broken tooth that they were responsible for. I could
not believe it.

Now I have a broken tooth, and have to pay for the dental expenses
to repair and crown this tooth myself.

Also one more important issue with Grayson Dental, Grayson rotates
dentists so fast that I never had the same dentist more than twice! I
never knew who I was getting next, but worse, the dentist who crowned
the tooth that broke was no longer at Grayson .. three week later! So
no
one took any blame. It was a very frustrating and costly experience. A
very disorganized business too. And the dentists all were young too so
apparently Grayson was just an early stepping-stone for them.

I also had a deep cleaning there. And most of my teeth are crowned;
therefore the cleaning was fast, 20 minutes. The charge was $880.00.
This works out to $2640.00/hr. Now I know why Grayson didn't inform
me of the charges until the work was done. I certainly would have
thought twice about having the cleaning done for that kind of price.
I asked if they could give me a break having so few teeth to clean,
but they declined.

On top of it all, they were mean. Julie the receptionist wouldn't
even relay messages for me to billing. They never called back
on the broken tooth. Victoria from the billing department lies.
She said she sent me billing records when I never received. Finally
I got a statement a month later. They stalled on this tooth issue
forever. I never did get through to Laura, the main boss. Terrible
experience.

I called around and 'every' dentist I talked to said many other
patients had bad experiences with Grayson.

I've never been treated as bad as this before by any other dentist.
I hope no one has to go through an experience like mine.

But don't take my word, if you are thinking about using Grayson
Dental in Mountain View, call around to other dentists in Mountain
View and ask them if they have heard of their patients who transferred
from Grayson who had bad experiences and you will find they have.
frenchy - 15 Apr 2006 18:12 GMT
<<I called and called Grayson and E-mailed Grayson for a refund so
I could use the funds to try to resurrect this tooth. They didn't
even reply to my E-mail. I have tried many more times to get
reimbursed, but they refused to even write or call me back!! >>

Maybe paying them an actual visit would have helped (or still could).
900 for a cleaning is ridiculous and I'm not even a dentist.
RayBailey2@aol.com - 17 Apr 2006 03:29 GMT
>Maybe paying them an actual visit would have helped (or still could).

Unfortunately I did. As stated above, I returned immediately after
the tooth broke and Grayson x-rayed the tooth. They even had the
nerve to charge me for the x-ray. Grayson also said the tooth could
not be saved and must be extracted. This was false advice. Two
other dentists said it could be saved. .. and don't think for a second
Grayson Dental wouldn't have charged for the extraction. These
guys are awful.

As far as a revisit, no thank you. If they were to resurrect the
tooth for free I'd decline. I simply want a refund, even a partial
refund. I've already paid for everything. I agree to pay for the root
canal they did.

>900 for a cleaning is ridiculous and I'm not even a dentist.

I agree, but of course Grayson didn't. They claim "it's not a cleaning,
it's a DEEEEP cleaning."

But nonetheless, 20 minutes is 20 minutes - that's all the time they
took to bill me $880 .. which I paid.

Also you'd think they'd at least have the decency to inform patients
of the costs before the work. Think about it, this is borderline
fraudulent.
You rarely have a service done outside of dentistry in which you are
not at least given an estimate.

>Then use that for action in Small Claims Court

I thought about it, but is $1105 worth all the hassle and what if the
judge sides with them? You never know. Personally, I'd sooner not
ever see their faces again. I've had bad dentists before, but these
guys are nasty.

I've recently called "Washington Dental" down in Tijuana and they
said they can do all the work I still need for under 1/8th the cost!!
They said they are walking distance from the US border and will
even pay for parking so I've found some airline tickets for $150
return. They said two visits is all that's needed

I've read online nothing but good experiences from WD patients.
If anyone has ANYTHING bad to say about WASHINGTON DENTAL
please inform me.
processor - 09 May 2006 21:54 GMT
Don't go to Grayson Dental. They ruin your teeth. They didn't do the
root canal right. I had an infection for 2 years because of this. The
surgeon who I finilly paid $1095 to get rid of the infection said the
reason was because the root canal was not done competely. I still do
not have a crown on my root canal. It will cost another $1000 for a
properly done crown from a dentist who does good work.

They put fillings in your teeth and crowns on your teeth and they fall
off the next day. This happened to me repeatedly. I asked why and was
told the glue they were using was not strong enough. Now I have about
10 empty holes in my teeth where all the fillings fell out after a
total of six months.

They missed with the drill and left a hole on the front of one of my
teeth. They take x-rays repeatedly because they are not trained on how
to do them right. The equipment they use is old and outdated. They burn
incense type stuff, which creates smoke by your face, to cure the glue.
They glob on the numbing medication all over your mouth so your whole
mouth ends up numb.

There are more people out there that have had similar experiences with
Grayson dental.  The dentists want to pull teeth that don't need
pulling, make bridges that do not fit, etc.  I urge you to take them to
small claims court.  They have been sued before and not in small claims
court.    You will be helping the other people who are having similar
experiences.  Be very careful in talking to David Grayson.  He is a
master manipulator in getting you to say words that will benifit him
and not you.  David Grayson will tell you he wins all his cases, which
is not true.  His sister, Laura is just as bad.  His brother or son,
red hair, also works there in the office.

If you ask for your records to go to another dentist, they will try to
talk you out of it and tell you they want to fix your teeth.  If you
ask for a compete copy of your records they do not give you all the
records.  They tell you that you will not understand them so you
wouldn't want them.
Joel344 - 15 Apr 2006 22:07 GMT
To get a reply, try

CERTIFIED MAIL
Return Receipt Requested.

Then use that for action in Small Claims Court

Joel

RayBailey2@aol.com Wrote:
> "Avoid Grayson Dental in Mountain View."
>
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> View and ask them if they have heard of their patients who transferred
> from Grayson who had bad experiences and you will find they have

--
Joel34
RayBailey2@aol.com - 17 Apr 2006 03:03 GMT
>Maybe paying them an actual visit would have helped (or still could).

Unfortunately I did. As stated above, I returned immediately after
the tooth broke and Grayson x-rayed the tooth. They even had the
nerve to charge me for the x-ray. Grayson also said the tooth could
not be saved and must be extracted. This was false advice. Two
other dentists said it could be saved. .. and don't think for a second
Grayson Dental wouldn't have charged for the extraction. These
guys are awful.

As far as a revisit, no thank you. If they were to resurrect the
tooth for free I'd decline. I simply want a refund, even a partial
refund. I've already paid for everything. I agree to pay for the root
canal they did.

>900 for a cleaning is ridiculous and I'm not even a dentist.

I agree, but of course Grayson didn't. They claim "it's not a cleaning,
it's a DEEEEP cleaning."

But nonetheless, 20 minutes is 20 minutes - that's all the time they
took to bill me $880 .. which I paid.

Also you'd think they'd at least have the decency to inform patients
of the costs before the work. Think about it, this is borderline
fraudulent.
You rarely have a service done outside of dentistry in which you are
not at least given an estimate.

>Then use that for action in Small Claims Court

I thought about it, but is $1105 worth all the hassle and what if the
judge sides with them? You never know. Personally, I'd sooner not
ever see their faces again. I've had bad dentists before, but these
guys are nasty.

I've recently called "Washington Dental" down in Tijuana and they
said they can do all the work I still need for under 1/8 th the cost!!
They said they are walking distance from the US border and will
even pay for parking so I've found some airline tickets for $150
return. They said two visits is all that's needed

I've read online nothing but good experiences from WD patients.
If anyone has ANYTHING bad to say about WASHINGTON DENTAL
please inform me.
Bill - 10 May 2006 18:44 GMT
This is what happens when a dentist is not carefully selected by the
patient before any treatment is undertaken.

In the past, people would inquire amongst their family and friends to
obtain the names of the best dentists in their area. They would ask
about fees, how "nice" the doctor was, and how satisfied their friends
were with their treatment over a period of years.

More recently, we see too many cases where the patient does not even
select a dentist, but only a "dental office" -- as if the quality of
the care is determined by an office building, instead of by an
individual, repsonsible dentist.

Too often the choice is made by promises cheap prices, instead of
quality considerations.

We often see the result of that choice here on the SMD newsgroup.

This sort of experience should be reported to the California Dental
Board, and if insurance was involved, also to the California Department
of Managed Health Care.

Far too often, problem dentistry continues when patients don't bother
to report the problems, don't bother to go to small claims, and don't
even bother to follow up with the appropriate state agencies.

Then when other potential patients check up on these practices, they
are told there is a "clean record" and "no complaints filed" because
the earlier patients don't even bother to file the simple complaints!

Then the problems continue for patient after patient, ad infinitum.

Going to Tijuana for dental care is like jumping from the frying pan
into the fire. You will get a very expensive education, but don't say I
didn't warn you first.

- dentaldoc
processor - 09 May 2006 21:37 GMT
> "Avoid Grayson Dental in Mountain View."
>
[quoted text clipped - 60 lines]
> View and ask them if they have heard of their patients who transferred
> from Grayson who had bad experiences and you will find they have.
 
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