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Implant vs. bridge

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abc - 07 Apr 2006 19:40 GMT
I am about to do an implant on #8 (upper molar). I've read up way back
on this newsgroup about pros and cons. What makes my case different is
that I am also simultaneously redoing the existing crowns #7 and #9, so
a bridge would not be an invasive option. My prosthodontist and oral
surgeon recomment an implant; but I get a feeling they always do.
Should I at least consider a bridge instead?

Would an implant save me money, long term? And if it does, one would
expect insurance companies to want to pay for implants, just like they
want to pay for other measures that save them money over the long run,
no? I mean, if it's so good, why don't they cover at least $300 or
something towards an implant, the price they would be forced to cover
anyway if the patient chooses the bridge option? Sounds like good
business to me.

Thanks to all the wonderful dentists there, I am very appreciative of
your time.
Steven Bornfeld - 07 Apr 2006 21:42 GMT
> I am about to do an implant on #8 (upper molar). I've read up way back
> on this newsgroup about pros and cons. What makes my case different is
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> Thanks to all the wonderful dentists there, I am very appreciative of
> your time.

    There is no one right answer.  An implant is better in that the
restoration is self-supporting, and flossing can be done in the
conventional way.  But the major selling point is often that the
surrounding teeth don't need to be prepared, and this isn't an issue
here.  Furthermore, you already state that crowns on #7 and #9 are being
replaced anyway.  If they are in good shape periodontally the only other
reason to do the implant is that it is likely to preserve the bony
ridge--the loss of which can occasionally cause cosmetic problems if you
have a high lip line and show a lot of tooth when you smile.  Selling an
implant based on the hypothetical loss of #7 and 9 is really
self-serving of the surgeon.
    If #7 and 9 aren't in good shape periodontally it's a completely
different story.  But in your case I would have a hard time justifying
an implant.

JMO,
Steve
Glad - 07 Apr 2006 22:37 GMT
> > I am about to do an implant on #8 (upper molar). I've read up way back
> > on this newsgroup about pros and cons. What makes my case different is
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> different story.  But in your case I would have a hard time justifying
> an implant.

Plus, if a bridge has been there for a while, then an oral surgeon may
have to do a bone graft before the implant.
Steven Bornfeld - 08 Apr 2006 02:50 GMT
> Plus, if a bridge has been there for a while, then an oral surgeon may
> have to do a bone graft before the implant.

    Good point--if the decision is made at a later date to do an implant,
it is more likely that a bone graft will be necessary.  It doesn't mean
a bone graft won't be necessary even if the implant is done immediately,
but it will be less likely.
    Even so, it wouldn't be a decisive factor for me.

Steve
whodunit - 10 Apr 2006 16:21 GMT
>> Plus, if a bridge has been there for a while, then an oral surgeon may
>> have to do a bone graft before the implant.
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>
> Steve

Out of curiosity, what all is involved with a bone graft? I'm going to
need one when my braces are finished (whole reason why I'm doing this in
the first place, because I'm losing bone where I don't have a permanent
tooth)--I've done a web search but really can't find a simplified
explanation. How much pain is involved? Is it oral surgery that takes
awhile, or something else?

TIA,
Carolyne in TX
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 10 Apr 2006 17:45 GMT
>>> Plus, if a bridge has been there for a while, then an oral surgeon
>>> may have to do a bone graft before the implant.
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> TIA,
> Carolyne in TX

    It is surgery.  However, often it is done at the time of extraction, so
the additional pain from the grafting procedure probably isn't much.
The only reason I'm waffling in my answer is that it depends upon how
large an area needs to be grafted, and how much gum tissue needs to be
reflected to place it.
    Most of the time grafting is done with exogenous materials--IOW, the
bone is not harvested from your own body.  If the bone has to be
harvested from your jaw, you of course have that additional surgical
site, which I hear usually winds up hurting more than the recipient
site--this is probably the biggest reason other materials (freeze-dried
bone, fake bone) are used.

Steve

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whodunit - 10 Apr 2006 19:26 GMT
>>>> Plus, if a bridge has been there for a while, then an oral surgeon
>>>> may have to do a bone graft before the implant.
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>
> Steve

It's a small site, just the place where I should have had a permanent
tooth (but was born without)--I'm planning to get an implant because a
bridge would not help encourage new bone growth (or so I've been told).
Since the 2 surrounding teeth are leaning over, I've needed to get them
straightened with the braces first.

Is it true they use harvested cadaver bone? What kind of dangers are
possible with that? I remember reading about some illegal harvesting
done awhile back (Alistair Cooke and others) and that disease testing
wasn't done in many of those cases, does the dentist just assume the
material to be grafted is of pure quality?

I'm not against using cadaver tissue (my late sister had a life saving
kidney transplant from a cadaver years ago), but I sure don't want to
take unnecessary chances on catching something really bad if this is
an unmonitored type of procedure!
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 10 Apr 2006 19:48 GMT
>>>>> Plus, if a bridge has been there for a while, then an oral surgeon
>>>>> may have to do a bone graft before the implant.
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> take unnecessary chances on catching something really bad if this is
> an unmonitored type of procedure!

    I've heard of using cadaver bone.  I don't actually know what most of
the surgeons are using--again it would be good if surgeon Dave would
chime in.  My wife had a bone graft with a mixture of demineralized
freeze-dried cow bone and fake bone.  I guess then there's always the
issue of Mad Cow, but she's no madder than before, and she'd doing great
with the implant.

Steve

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robertphillips1820@yahoo.co.uk - 10 Apr 2006 22:51 GMT
>How much pain is involved?

In my case, it was done under general anaesthetic as the block of bone
came from my hip. To be honest, the receipient site wasn't painful at
all, and I hardly used any pain killers (ibuprofen). The donor site was
more sore for a few weeks, particularly to touch, but not really
uncomfortably so.
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 11 Apr 2006 00:47 GMT
>>How much pain is involved?
>
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> more sore for a few weeks, particularly to touch, but not really
> uncomfortably so.

    Your experience is typical in that the donor site was more sore.
Perhaps not so typical in that a large block of bone needed to be harvested.

Steve

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Joel344 - 08 Apr 2006 03:13 GMT
I vote for bridge ....

Joely

abc Wrote:
> I am about to do an implant on #8 (upper molar). I've read up way back
> on this newsgroup about pros and cons. What makes my case different is
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Thanks to all the wonderful dentists there, I am very appreciative of
> your time

--
Joel34
 
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