It's certainly bone - a covering membrane was not used. A solid chunk
of bone was used, so I'm assuming a membrane wasn't necessary to
protect gum in-growth into the area.
> It's certainly bone - a covering membrane was not used. A solid chunk
> of bone was used, so I'm assuming a membrane wasn't necessary to
> protect gum in-growth into the area.
Bone grafts are usually protected with some kind of membrane--the early
ones were non-resorbable, but obviously resorbable membranes are more
convenient. Bone grafts are occasionally used in a block, but I hear
this more in terms of reconstruction (eg. after jaw resection in cancer
surgery) than I do related to implants. it is easier to shape the ridge
area using macerated graft materials--either real bone, artificial bone,
or a mixture of both. Certainly the membrane is more important if
primary closure of the gum cannot be achieved, but even then it seems
pretty routine.
I'm no oral surgeon. But to my mind if there is exposed bone after 4
months something is amiss.
Would Dave care to comment?
Steve

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Dave King - 06 Apr 2006 21:07 GMT
>> It's certainly bone - a covering membrane was not used. A solid chunk
>> of bone was used, so I'm assuming a membrane wasn't necessary to
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>Steve
Exposure isnt the end of the world but that portion of the graft may
be nonvital. If it isnt closed now at 4 months it will never close.
Did your surgeon mention sliding some tissue over to help close it?
Simply resuturing will not help.
A good periosteal layer closed primarily is the best membrane.
Dave
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 06 Apr 2006 21:17 GMT
> Exposure isnt the end of the world but that portion of the graft may
> be nonvital. If it isnt closed now at 4 months it will never close.
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> Dave
Thanks, Dave!
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robertphillips1820@yahoo.co.uk - 06 Apr 2006 21:55 GMT
>Exposure isnt the end of the world but that portion of the graft may be nonvital.
More bone was put in than necessary to allow for resorbtion, so one
would assume a certain amount of the graft is expendable. There doesn't
actually seem to be any sign of resorbtion yet (after 4 months), which
I'm not sure is a good or bad sign.
>Did your surgeon mention sliding some tissue over to help close it?
It was mentioned early-on, but I got the impression my surgeon was
talking more in terms of a free graft from the roof of my mouth (I
should mention the graft is at the front of my jaw). Would that make
sense?
Anyway, thanks all for replies.
Dave King - 07 Apr 2006 14:21 GMT
>>Exposure isnt the end of the world but that portion of the graft may be nonvital.
>
>More bone was put in than necessary to allow for resorbtion, so one
>would assume a certain amount of the graft is expendable. There doesn't
>actually seem to be any sign of resorbtion yet (after 4 months), which
>I'm not sure is a good or bad sign.
Some graft resorption is expected and yes, overfilling is the way to
do it.
>>Did your surgeon mention sliding some tissue over to help close it?
>
>It was mentioned early-on, but I got the impression my surgeon was
>talking more in terms of a free graft from the roof of my mouth (I
>should mention the graft is at the front of my jaw). Would that make
>sense?
A free graft wouldnt work. A pedicled graft is another story since it
never losses its blood supply.
>Anyway, thanks all for replies.
robertphillips1820@yahoo.co.uk - 06 Apr 2006 21:34 GMT
>But to my mind if there is exposed bone after 4 months something is amiss.
Quite so, hence the enquiry ;-) However, x-rays of the graft seem to
indicate that it's integrating, and probing the holes indicates the
presence of a good blood supply in the graft. That's possibly why my
surgeon is not unduly pessimistic, although I feel he's overly
optimistic that the gum will eventually heal over.
>Certainly the membrane is more important if primary closure of the gum cannot be achieved
I think my surgeon was originally confident of closure, but
unfortunately the incision pulled apart before the two edges healed,
perhaps because there was some localised inflammation that pulled
things out of shape. I didn't ask why a membrane wasn't used.