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Should the dentist pay?
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Hi there, I had four porcelain veneers fitted at the front of my mout
12 months ago. I went to the same dentist today for a check up and the
tell me there is too much excess cement in between the veneers meaning
cannot floss. This has resulted in bleeding gums and potentially gu
disease and receeding gums. They say they have to remove the cemen
which may dislodge the veneers and in which case I would have to pay t
have new ones fitted as they are not under guarantee. But surely this i
their fault in the first place and I should not have to pay? Also
whilst cleaning the dentist chipped a veneer which means this one wil
have to be replaced now - again, they say, at my cost. Should I reall
have to pay?!
Would really appreciate some advice here, as I can't help thinking thi
is all very unfair. Thanks, ClaireC
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#2 12-08-2005, 12:08 PM
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Hi there, I had four porcelain veneers fitted at the front of my mout
12 months ago. I went to the same dentist today for a check up and the
tell me there is too much excess cement in between the veneers meaning
cannot floss. This has resulted in bleeding gums and potentially gu
disease and receeding gums. They say they have to remove the cemen
which may dislodge the veneers and in which case I would have to pay t
have new ones fitted as they are not under guarantee. But surely this i
their fault in the first place and I should not have to pay? Also
whilst cleaning the dentist chipped a veneer which means this one wil
have to be replaced now - again, they say, at my cost. Should I reall
have to pay?!
Would really appreciate some advice here, as I can't help thinking thi
is all very unfair. Thanks, ClaireC
Claire,
Thank you for sharing your story. I cannot answer your questions, but
think that others who may be considering veneers need to hear thes
things.
I don't think that patients realize that once they alter their teeth
complications can occur.
Personally I think the dentist should have warned you upfront and tol
you that veneers can chip, fall off, and break. S/he should have mad
it clear if there were any complications, who was repsonsible fo
payment, etc.
I personally think that since this INFO was NOT relayed to you, PRIO
to undergoing this procedure, that the dentist should be hel
accountable to "make things right" at no cost to you.
I do not know the legalities of something like this however.
Good luck,
Sue (nondentist)
Try this site www.dentistry.com
They may be able to direct you as to whether a you need to start
process known as "peer review"
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#3 12-08-2005, 02:41 PM
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Hi Claire,
Dentists on Sci med dentistry forum think this is the definitely th
dentist's responsibilty.
Good luck,
Sue
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#4 12-09-2005, 07:20 AM
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Sue and Claire,
This almost borders on malpractice ........ its an iatrogenic disease!
Joel
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Sue and Claire,
This almost borders on malpractice ........ its an iatrogenic disease!
Joel
"iatrogenic disease"
Dr. Joel,
Please explain.
Thanks,
Sue
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Many thanks to Sue and everyone else who submitted advice on my
situation. Much appreciated and I know how to proceed now.
Thanks again,
Claire
PS - Sue, I do not mind at all that you placed my post on another forum
as this led to more advice for me - so thanks for making the effort!
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Originally Posted by ClaireC
Hi there, I had four porcelain veneers fitted at the front of my mouth
12 months ago. I went to the same dentist today for a check up and they
tell me there is too much excess cement in between the veneers meaning I
cannot floss. This has resulted in bleeding gums and potentially gum
disease and receeding gums. They say they have to remove the cement
which may dislodge the veneers and in which case I would have to pay to
have new ones fitted as they are not under guarantee. But surely this is
their fault in the first place and I should not have to pay? Also,
whilst cleaning the dentist chipped a veneer which means this one will
have to be replaced now - again, they say, at my cost. Should I really
have to pay?!
Would really appreciate some advice here, as I can't help thinking this
is all very unfair. Thanks, ClaireC
Man!! this is so unreal that makes it funny, hopefully you won't get
mad at me...Ok, for what i understand this mistake is caused by your
dentist so if he needs to remove them is cuz he made the mistake
right?? like not removing the cement while putting the veneers
on...causing it on damage to your gums...so your Dentist should
pay...Put it this way...say you have some time of major surgery and the
Dr forgets something inside of you, like gause or an instrument you will
have problems in the future so is the drs responsabilitie, let's all
take responsability for what we do..and your Dentist shoudl do the same
thing..
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Joel344 - 09 Mar 2006 15:19 GMT
Thanks Sue ......
I heard that lots but never realized its "peer review."
I thought people were suggesting Beer Review ..... you
know ... Coors is lighter in flavor than Molson's .........
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Good luck,
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Try this site www.dentistry.com
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Bill - 09 Mar 2006 18:34 GMT
It seems clear that IF Claire's interpretation is right, that there was
excess cement placed to start with, then it is the dentist's
responsibility to remove the excess and correct the problem.
Also if the dentists actually creates a chip while cleaning, instead of
merely revealing a chip that was already there, then the dentist must
consider his responsibility for creating the chip.
(But it is also very disconcerting for a dentist to find a chip that
was ALREADY PRESENT, then discuss that pre-existing chip with the
patient, only to be accused of creating the chip, simply because the
patient hadn't bothered to notice that chip before.)
There is an obvious question: when Claire says that " . . . they
> tell me there is too much excess cement in between the veneers meaning I
> cannot floss. This has resulted in bleeding gums and potentially gum
> disease and receding gums."
WHY did it take 12 MONTHS for Claire to find out that she "cannot
floss??"
Shouldn't she have noticed this in about 12 minutes! -- not 12 months
-- and reported this to the dentist so that any corrections could have
been made BEFORE there was any gum damage?
Is it possible that Claire just didn't bother to try the required daily
flossing for 12 months? If she had not been able to floss a tooth, she
should have known about it the very first day, when the floss didn't go
through!
Is this another case of blaming the dentist for one's lack of oral
hygiene? Hmmmm . . .
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