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glue that is non-toxic in mouth?

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peter - 02 Mar 2006 23:26 GMT
I have a plastic retainer for 3 weeks and it cracked today when I was
removing it -- I used a little bit more force than I needed.

The crack is at the front down the middle. It would cost > $100 to get a new
one. Is there any type of glue I can use that is harmless inside the mouth
when dried?

The retainer still feel ok even with this crack. However, the crack would
probably get longer and eventually the retainer would break into two.

Even if I buy a replacement, it may still crack again. I cannot afford to
keep buying $100 retainer every month for the rest of my life.
Joel344 - 03 Mar 2006 01:20 GMT
Crazy Glue is cyanoacrylate ....... cyanic acid I guess, but who know
....... A colourless poisonous volatile liquid acid that hydrolyze
readily to ammonia and carbon dioxide.

Joel

How about a small denture repair for $25?

peter Wrote:
> I have a plastic retainer for 3 weeks and it cracked today when I was
> removing it -- I used a little bit more force than I needed.
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> to
> keep buying $100 retainer every month for the rest of my life

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Joel34
Joseph - 03 Mar 2006 17:58 GMT
>Crazy Glue is cyanoacrylate ....... cyanic acid I guess, but who knows
>....... A colourless poisonous volatile liquid acid that hydrolyzes
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>
>How about a small denture repair for $25?

Copied from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanoacrylate...

The use of cyanoacrylate glues in medicine was considered fairly early
on. Eastman Kodak and Ethicon began studying whether the glues could
be used to hold human tissue together after surgery. In 1964, Eastman
submitted an application to use cyanoacrylate glues to seal wounds to
the United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA). Soon afterward
Dr. Harry Coover's glue did find use in Vietnam--reportedly in 1966,
cyanoacrylates were tested on-site by a specially trained surgical
team, with impressive results. In an interview with Dr. Coover by the
Kingsport Times-News, Coover said that the compound demonstrated an
excellent capacity to stop bleeding, and during the Vietnam War, he
developed disposal cyanoacrylate sprays for use in the battlefield.

"If somebody had a chest wound or open wound that was bleeding, the
biggest problem they had was stopping the bleeding so they could get
the patient back to the hospital. And the consequence was--many of
them bled to death. So the medics used the spray, stopped the
bleeding, and were able to get the wounded back to the base hospital.
And many, many lives were saved," Coover said
Sue - 03 Mar 2006 22:15 GMT
Joseph Wrote:
> On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 01:20:37 GMT, Joel344 <joeleichen@yahoo.com
> wrote
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> bleeding, and were able to get the wounded back to the base hospital
> And many, many lives were saved," Coover said
Right

Not a good idea, IMO. Here is the Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) fo
Superglue

http://www.surlok.com/msds/1409.htm  (edited, had wrong link)'
(http://www.surlok.com/msds/1745.htm

-Sue (non dentist, but have worked in many different chemistry an
clinical laboratories

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Su
Joel344 - 04 Mar 2006 00:17 GMT
Sue Wrote:
> Right.
>
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> -Sue (non dentist, but have worked in many different chemistry an
> clinical laboratories)

Sue, you been crazy glueing Watanabe rabbits
together for experimental purposes

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Joel34
Sue - 05 Mar 2006 15:25 GMT
> Sue Wrote:
> > Right.
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> Sue, you been crazy glueing Watanabe rabbits
> together for experimental purposes?

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Only the porcelain kind.
Sdores - 05 Mar 2006 15:41 GMT
No don't use glue, esp. super glue.  It's worth a visit to your dentist,
maybe he/she can make the repair or get a new one if that is not possible.
You don't want toxins like this in your mouth.  UM MOM Susan, not a dentist

>I have a plastic retainer for 3 weeks and it cracked today when I was
>removing it -- I used a little bit more force than I needed.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Even if I buy a replacement, it may still crack again. I cannot afford to
> keep buying $100 retainer every month for the rest of my life.
Joel344 - 05 Mar 2006 17:14 GMT
We encourage mucilage or Elmer's School Glue.
It will not hold at all but ast least its not pizin.

You can also use flour and water ........ but that can
be fattening too.

Joel

Sdores Wrote:
> No don't use glue, esp. super glue.  It's worth a visit to you
> dentist,
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> afford to
> > keep buying $100 retainer every month for the rest of my life.

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Joel34
Dob - 05 Mar 2006 17:30 GMT
I've seen several news shows showing surgeons supergluing incisions
closed. They said it was better than stitches. I don't imagine they'd be
doing this if it was so dangerous.

> No don't use glue, esp. super glue.  It's worth a visit to your dentist,
> maybe he/she can make the repair or get a new one if that is not possible.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>>Even if I buy a replacement, it may still crack again. I cannot afford to
>>keep buying $100 retainer every month for the rest of my life.
Sue - 05 Mar 2006 19:22 GMT
Dob Wrote:
> I've seen several news shows showing surgeons supergluing incision
> closed. They said it was better than stitches. I don't imagine they'
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> afford t
> >>keep buying $100 retainer every month for the rest of my life

Are you sure it is the over the counter Super Glue... or medical Supe
Glue http://www.lubbockonline.com/news/052197/medical.ht

Just wondering

Sue (nondentist

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Su
Dob - 10 Mar 2006 23:01 GMT
It was a news show, they didn't go into detail. I read your link, and
they don't go into detail either. What's the diff between medical type
super glue and regular.

> Are you sure it is the over the counter Super Glue... or medical Super
> Glue http://www.lubbockonline.com/news/052197/medical.htm
>
> Just wondering,
>
> Sue (nondentist)
Joel344 - 05 Mar 2006 21:30 GMT
True, and the PETA people would go nuts when they
superglue the elephant to the living room wall .... it
must be okay.

Joel

Dob Wrote:
> I've seen several news shows showing surgeons supergluing incisions
> closed. They said it was better than stitches. I don't imagine they'
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> afford to
> >>keep buying $100 retainer every month for the rest of my life.

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Joel34
Sdores - 06 Mar 2006 12:15 GMT
I've had three surgeries, all closed with staples.  In dental, stitches,
never glued. Do you have a link?  UM MOM Susan
> I've seen several news shows showing surgeons supergluing incisions
> closed. They said it was better than stitches. I don't imagine they'd be
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>>>Even if I buy a replacement, it may still crack again. I cannot afford to
>>>keep buying $100 retainer every month for the rest of my life.
Joel344 - 06 Mar 2006 14:24 GMT
My friend had to get Scotch Tape for his surgeries as
his insurance would not pay for staples ......

Sdores Wrote:
> I've had three surgeries, all closed with staples.  In dental
> stitches,
> never glued. Do you have a link?  UM MOM Susa

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Joel34
Sdores - 06 Mar 2006 22:01 GMT
Yuck!  When I first got surgery in '01 and the doc took the bandage off and
I saw the staples it freaked me out.  I was new to this plus it hurt to take
the taping stuff off.  But removing the staples were for the most part a
walk in the park which I didn't expect.  UM MOM Susan

> My friend had to get Scotch Tape for his surgeries as
> his insurance would not pay for staples ......
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>> stitches,
>> never glued. Do you have a link?  UM MOM Susan
 
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