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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / February 2006The regular professionals from this forum can be found at:
Dear patient or lay-person searching this news group for answers to dental questions. As you no doubt have already noticed, this site has been hijacked by trolls trying to fabricate issues about toxicity levels and diseases which do not exist. For years, the dentists who have participated on this news group have tried to debate these trolls scientifically, tried to argue with them or just tried to ignore these posters. Unfortunately, these trolls have chosen to continue their barrage of attacks against science and proven methods of legitimate dental care. Finally, this group of dentists and ancillary personnel, have chosen to simply go away. The down side of this is that a lot of good people are left with their legitimate questions and concerns un-answered. As a group, we [the regular posters from this news group] have been discussing how to fill the void left by the absence of virtually all dental professionals from this news group. After thorough discussion, we have chosen to open a separate internet forum for people to ask questions, debate dental science, review techniques, learn about regulatory issues, etc. We have created this forum at: www.scimeddentistry.com/smd We welcome anyone to come to this site and discuss dental topics and concerns. To avoid flame wars and abuse to anyone posting to the site, there is a group of moderators on the site who will remove any poster who is rude, abusive, vulgar, or posts unwanted advertisements for other sites. Spam will not be tolerated, nor will any Troll-type behavior. Participating in the site requires a valid email address. There is a log-in process where you register and receive a confirmation email back prior to gaining access to the site. This is only to enable us to eliminate those posters who are abusive to the group. No information about any poster is collected, no information is being sold or distributed to others. A cookie is utilized only to enable the registration process and subsequent log-ins. Since the site is just now getting started, be patient if it takes a few hours (or more) to get replies to your questions. Please understand that the regulars who volunteer to be available at this site do so as volunteers only. We receive no compensation beyond the opportunity to discuss our favorite topics with interested people. No one is getting paid to be there, and we all have lives outside of the internet. Although at times, that may seem hard to believe. Please register on the site, obtain your email confirmation, and initiate or join in on some discussion. Sincerely, Amatus Cremona Nice! Finally a normal post! > Dear patient or lay-person searching this news group for answers to dental > questions. [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > Amatus Cremona > Nice! Finally a normal post! LOL! Sort of like this one! Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry From: "Dr Steve" <nos...@home.net> - Find messages by this author Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 19:53:07 GMT Local: Mon, Nov 22 2004 2:53 pm Subject: Re: What are your credentials both scientific and anecdotal? Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse ATTENTION ! ! ! For the sake of any new readers to this newsgroup. Jan is a retired day care worker (owner according to her) who makes a lot of noise about amalgam toxicity. She is not a dentist, has no training in dentistry, and does not really understand scientific methods. In addition, she flat out refuses to engage in any discussion about this issue even when the specific point of discussion does not contradict her own point of view. She cannot communicate much beyond pasting the words of other people to responses, even when the quotes do not apply to what is being said. She, also, does not give any credit to the person from which she takes these quotations. Her behavior is very similar to a software program designed to post specific remarks to key words. Please be cautious if you choose to follow any advice presented by her. Recognize that her views do NOT reflect those of modern dentistry. Her views mirror those of dishonest people who survive by preying on the innocent. If you watch and read carefully, you will see her accuse anyone who does not agree with all her views (uneducated as they may be) of being a liar. When that does not get enough attention, she will resort to calling people "heifer", "Jew-boy", Atheist, queer, etc. Her behavior is certainly not civil nor compassionate. If you read exactly what her claims are in regard to amalgam toxicity, you will find that her claims do not make scientific sense. She claims to have been healed of neurological defects during the time that her bodily mercury levels would have been at their highest. If she really had mercury toxicity, she should have been more ill during this time, not feeling better than she had in many years. She is either badly mistaken, or she is lying about what made her ill. Even those individuals who would like to see amalgam banned from use, find her posting methods and refusal to discuss any topics despicable. Please recognize that there are far more people sensitive to Penicillin, latex, peanuts, and even to bananas than there are people sensitive to dental amalgam and the metals it contains. None of those materials have been banned, nor will they be banned in the future. .. Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA Which of course was filled with LIES! AND What he has tried to remove from the archives. However, I still have a copy! ATTENTION ! ! ! >For the sake of any new readers to this newsgroup. Jan is a retired >day care owner/operator, (according to her) who makes a lot of noise >about amalgam toxicity. Incorrect. I post the scientific proof of mercury amalgam toxicity. http://tinyurl.com/46pwb >She is not a dentist, has no training in dentistry, That's true. Just a mercury poisoned person who can close to death. >and does not really understand scientific methods. That's a lie. Dr Steve has NOT one single study proving amalgams to be safe, while I have lots of proof and studies that show they are NOT safe. http://tinyurl.com/7xq58 >In addition, she flat >out refuses to engage in any discussion about this issue even when the >specific point of discussion does not contradict her own point of view. Another lie. Dentist are taught well is dental school to lie. http://tinyurl.com/3rly6 >She >cannot communicate much beyond pasting the words of other people to >responses, even when the quotes do not apply to what is being said. See above. >She, >also, does not give any credit to the person from which she takes these >quotations. Her behavior is very similar to a software program designed > to post specific remarks to key words. Anyone can note, Dr Steve is sour grapes because he refuses to discuss and answer my questions. He is just one of many here who can't. http://tinyurl.com/5ufrd Follow that thread and see where Steve got caught in his own trap. He refused to discuss, couldn't answer my questions http://tinyurl.com/4kucc Here is where Bill Combs got caught and could answer my question, and Steve calls them *silly*. >Please be cautious if you choose >to follow any advice presented by her. I have helped others and will continue. Proof below. http://tinyurl.com/3uezd >Recognize that her views do NOT reflect those of modern dentistry. They are NOT my views, they are written by researchers, Chemists, toxicologists, DDS's and MD's. Steve is a BLATANT LIAR. By modern dentistry Dr Steve means the lying beliefs of *organized dentistry and medicine* who remain in denial. Their concern is EGO and afraid of being sued for the lies down through the ages. . Her views mirror those of dishonest people who survive by preying on the >innocent. Dr Steve is DISHONEST. I have a message, and it starts with *IF* *IF* you have an unanswered health problem,,,,,,,,CHECK THE TEETH! NOT by a mainstream dentist, but an Alt. dentist who KNOWS the dangers of metalin the mouth and root canals, and follows correct protocol. I did, it saved my life .Mercury is Poisonous.There is NO safe form of Mercury in living tissue.The mercury vapor from dental amalgam alone is a bigger source than all the other sources together. U151 identifies mercury as a toxic waste.Mercury is also recovered from discarded products and wastes such aschlor-alkali wastes, dental amalgams, fluorescent light tubes, electronicdevices, and others. The mercury is vaporized in a retort and collected bycondensation. Condensed mercury is then distilled to remove impurities.* The Environmental Protection Agency is working to reduce the amount ofmercury in the environment http://www.ehs.ucsf.edu/Manuals/CSM/Csm_Chapter9.htm 17. DENTAL AMALGAMDental amalgams are mixtures of mercury with silver tin alloy. Cal-EPAregulates them as ***chemical waste.*** Submit Chemical Waste Removal Form for its disposal. >If you watch and read carefully, you will see her accuse anyone >who does not agree with all her views (uneducated as they may be) of being >a >liar. A total repeated lie. The lies are from the posters own words, and has nothing whatsoever to do with disagreeing. Lies are rampant here. When they are told and I ask for proof, Dr Steve, among others have NO proof. You just saw an example of how Steve lies above. >When that does not get enough attention, she will resort to calling >people "heifer", "Jew-boy", Atheist, queer, etc. Her behavior is certainly >not civil nor compassionate. I am not here for attention, as far as the above, yes if needed I do stand up to ridiculous posters. It should also be noted, Dr Steve says W_B is a nice guy. While he speaks of Slat Lake City Landfill. States it's a damn shame I didn't die. and Well said, mf, well said. I have been called many names. In fact from Sr Steve himself. Dr Steve <nos...@home.net> wrote: > >> I stay out of the Crohn's discussion with her since there obviously > >> would be little sense trying. But, always notice she is nice to all of > >> us. You cannot say that about the three headed hydra. >If you read exactly what her claims are in regard to amalgam toxicity, you >will find that her claims do not make scientific sense. Steve has NOT one single study proving the safety of amalgams, in fact they have never been FDA approved. > She claims to have >been healed of neurological defects during the time that her bodily mercury >levels would have been at their highest. No that what Dr Steve claims, I claimed. He has been asked to show proof of this claim, he has none, but still repeats this lie. NOWHERE did I ever say I was cured of anything. <snip more lies> >Even those individuals who would like to see amalgam banned from use, find >her posting methods and refusal to discuss any topics despicable. Proof of that lie is above. >Please recognize that there are far more people sensitive to Penicillin, >latex, peanuts, and even to bananas than there are people sensitive to >dental amalgam and the metals it contains. None of those materials have >been banned, nor will they be banned in the future. Totally irrelevant. Amalgams is the subject. We already have partial bans, for very good reason. The truth is mercury is being eliminated in ALL forms, dentists are the biggest polluters and care not about the enviroment. The reason for this post, is Dr Steve got caught in his own trap. After stating his many lies it is HE who refuses to discuss and can't answer my questons. Jan "I don't feel comfortable using a substance designated by the Environmental Protection Agency to be a waste disposal hazard. I can't throw it in the trash, bury it in the ground, or put it in a landfill, but they say it is OK to put it in people's mouths. That doesn't make sense." - Richard. Fischer, D.D.S." >> Dear patient or lay-person searching this news group for answers to >> dental [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] >> >> Amatus Cremona dude, regular professionals and this group is an oxymoron. regular professional dentists and such r working on patients, watching football, taking the kids to soccer pratice, going out to restaurants, going to the gym, etc..., etc..., etc.... trust me, they r not in here or participating in anything like this. this is for the eccentric or those who do all their work online or, and prolly this encompasses most, those who see it as a slowed down version of a chatroom. myself, i don't want my dentist in chatrooms. i need to b able to respect him. Torrie www.bikerchick.freehomepage.com Dear patient or lay-person searching this news group for answers to dental questions. As you no doubt have already noticed, this site has been hijacked by trolls trying to fabricate issues about toxicity levels and diseases which do not exist. For years, the dentists who have participated on this news group have tried to debate these trolls scientifically, tried to argue with them or just tried to ignore these posters. Unfortunately, these trolls have chosen to continue their barrage of attacks against science and proven methods of legitimate dental care. Finally, this group of dentists and ancillary personnel, have chosen to simply go away. The down side of this is that a lot of good people are left with their legitimate questions and concerns un-answered. As a group, we [the regular posters from this news group] have been discussing how to fill the void left by the absence of virtually all dental professionals from this news group. After thorough discussion, we have chosen to open a separate internet forum for people to ask questions, debate dental science, review techniques, learn about regulatory issues, etc. We have created this forum at: www.scimeddentistry.com/smd We welcome anyone to come to this site and discuss dental topics and concerns. To avoid flame wars and abuse to anyone posting to the site, there is a group of moderators on the site who will remove any poster who is rude, abusive, vulgar, or posts unwanted advertisements for other sites. Spam will not be tolerated, nor will any Troll-type behavior. Participating in the site requires a valid email address. There is a log-in process where you register and receive a confirmation email back prior to gaining access to the site. This is only to enable us to eliminate those posters who are abusive to the group. No information about any poster is collected, no information is being sold or distributed to others. A cookie is utilized only to enable the registration process and subsequent log-ins. Since the site is just now getting started, be patient if it takes a few hours (or more) to get replies to your questions. Please understand that the regulars who volunteer to be available at this site do so as volunteers only. We receive no compensation beyond the opportunity to discuss our favorite topics with interested people. No one is getting paid to be there, and we all have lives outside of the internet. Although at times, that may seem hard to believe. Please register on the site, obtain your email confirmation, and initiate or join in on some discussion. Sincerely, Amatus Cremona Harleygyrl, Are you a dentist. or just a schmoozer. Why aren't you fixing the world out there in the football field, soccer field, in some nice restauratnt, or in the gym etc. etc. etc. Some people may enjoy reading information they may not ordinarily get from the contacts that are ordinarily not available in the limited expanse of information IIRL. Gail Michael dude, regular professionals and this group is an oxymoron. regular professional dentists and such r working on patients, watching football, taking the kids to soccer pratice, going out to restaurants, going to the gym, etc..., etc..., etc.... trust me, they r not in here or participating in anything like this. this is for the eccentric or those who do all their work online or, and prolly this encompasses most, those who see it as a slowed down version of a chatroom. myself, i don't want my dentist in chatrooms. i need to b able to respect him. Torrie www.bikerchick.freehomepage.com "Amatus Cremona" <Nicola@sottovocce.com> wrote in message news:XzoDf.5516$2O6.1391@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com... Dear patient or lay-person searching this news group for answers to dental questions. As you no doubt have already noticed, this site has been hijacked by trolls trying to fabricate issues about toxicity levels and diseases which do not exist. For years, the dentists who have participated on this news group have tried to debate these trolls scientifically, tried to argue with them or just tried to ignore these posters. Unfortunately, these trolls have chosen to continue their barrage of attacks against science and proven methods of legitimate dental care. Finally, this group of dentists and ancillary personnel, have chosen to simply go away. The down side of this is that a lot of good people are left with their legitimate questions and concerns un-answered. As a group, we [the regular posters from this news group] have been discussing how to fill the void left by the absence of virtually all dental professionals from this news group. After thorough discussion, we have chosen to open a separate internet forum for people to ask questions, debate dental science, review techniques, learn about regulatory issues, etc. We have created this forum at: www.scimeddentistry.com/smd We welcome anyone to come to this site and discuss dental topics and concerns. To avoid flame wars and abuse to anyone posting to the site, there is a group of moderators on the site who will remove any poster who is rude, abusive, vulgar, or posts unwanted advertisements for other sites. Spam will not be tolerated, nor will any Troll-type behavior. Participating in the site requires a valid email address. There is a log-in process where you register and receive a confirmation email back prior to gaining access to the site. This is only to enable us to eliminate those posters who are abusive to the group. No information about any poster is collected, no information is being sold or distributed to others. A cookie is utilized only to enable the registration process and subsequent log-ins. Since the site is just now getting started, be patient if it takes a few hours (or more) to get replies to your questions. Please understand that the regulars who volunteer to be available at this site do so as volunteers only. We receive no compensation beyond the opportunity to discuss our favorite topics with interested people. No one is getting paid to be there, and we all have lives outside of the internet. Although at times, that may seem hard to believe. Please register on the site, obtain your email confirmation, and initiate or join in on some discussion. Sincerely, Amatus Cremona plz tell me the location of your gym that needs fixing and i will get my ppl on it Torrie www.bikerchick.freehomepage.com Harleygyrl, Are you a dentist. or just a schmoozer. Why aren't you fixing the world out there in the football field, soccer field, in some nice restauratnt, or in the gym etc. etc. etc. Some people may enjoy reading information they may not ordinarily get from the contacts that are ordinarily not available in the limited expanse of information IIRL. Gail Michael "Harleygyrl A Bikerchyck" <aharleygyrl@icqmail.com> wrote in message news:FJpDf.5363$Ou1.3429@tornado.socal.rr.com... dude, regular professionals and this group is an oxymoron. regular professional dentists and such r working on patients, watching football, taking the kids to soccer pratice, going out to restaurants, going to the gym, etc..., etc..., etc.... trust me, they r not in here or participating in anything like this. this is for the eccentric or those who do all their work online or, and prolly this encompasses most, those who see it as a slowed down version of a chatroom. myself, i don't want my dentist in chatrooms. i need to b able to respect him. Torrie www.bikerchick.freehomepage.com "Amatus Cremona" <Nicola@sottovocce.com> wrote in message news:XzoDf.5516$2O6.1391@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com... Dear patient or lay-person searching this news group for answers to dental questions. As you no doubt have already noticed, this site has been hijacked by trolls trying to fabricate issues about toxicity levels and diseases which do not exist. For years, the dentists who have participated on this news group have tried to debate these trolls scientifically, tried to argue with them or just tried to ignore these posters. Unfortunately, these trolls have chosen to continue their barrage of attacks against science and proven methods of legitimate dental care. Finally, this group of dentists and ancillary personnel, have chosen to simply go away. The down side of this is that a lot of good people are left with their legitimate questions and concerns un-answered. As a group, we [the regular posters from this news group] have been discussing how to fill the void left by the absence of virtually all dental professionals from this news group. After thorough discussion, we have chosen to open a separate internet forum for people to ask questions, debate dental science, review techniques, learn about regulatory issues, etc. We have created this forum at: www.scimeddentistry.com/smd We welcome anyone to come to this site and discuss dental topics and concerns. To avoid flame wars and abuse to anyone posting to the site, there is a group of moderators on the site who will remove any poster who is rude, abusive, vulgar, or posts unwanted advertisements for other sites. Spam will not be tolerated, nor will any Troll-type behavior. Participating in the site requires a valid email address. There is a log-in process where you register and receive a confirmation email back prior to gaining access to the site. This is only to enable us to eliminate those posters who are abusive to the group. No information about any poster is collected, no information is being sold or distributed to others. A cookie is utilized only to enable the registration process and subsequent log-ins. Since the site is just now getting started, be patient if it takes a few hours (or more) to get replies to your questions. Please understand that the regulars who volunteer to be available at this site do so as volunteers only. We receive no compensation beyond the opportunity to discuss our favorite topics with interested people. No one is getting paid to be there, and we all have lives outside of the internet. Although at times, that may seem hard to believe. Please register on the site, obtain your email confirmation, and initiate or join in on some discussion. Sincerely, Amatus Cremona Path: g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!news3.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newscon06.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.net!newsmst01b.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssvr12.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!7ef96382!not-for-mail From: "Amatus Cremona" <Nic...@sottovocce.com> Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry Subject: The regular professionals from this forum can be found at: Lines: 53 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original Message-ID: <XzoDf.5516$2O6.1391@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.248.10.250 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssvr12.news.prodigy.com 1138627959 ST000 68.248.10.250 (Mon, 30 Jan 2006 08:32:39 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 08:32:39 EST Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com X-UserInfo1: SCSYQN_@FS@[B_D[ZJJH^TD@QRXFBL@MAHU^_BAMEH]TCDYG^WH[AACY@TZZXQ[KS^ESKCJLOF_J_NGAWNTG^_XGTNTAHULK[X[NRTC@G\P^PLT_OCBRHUO@@TBQZDZMHD[YZ@NLXQXIWMOSXT_KOLK^^CXFF\WHMI^C@EGA_[FXAQ@E^TGNMUXGYNS[QQVL Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 13:32:39 GMT OrgName: SBC Internet Services OrgID: SIS-80 Address: 2701 W 15th St PMB 236 City: Plano StateProv: TX PostalCode: 75075 Country: US "Dr Steve" <nos...@home.net Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!news.glorb.com!prodigy.com!newsmst01a.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssvr17.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!7ef96382!not-for-mail From: "Dr Steve" <nos...@home.net> Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry References: <cnpla2$gqo$1@titan.btinternet.com> <20041121040820.08318.00001122@mb-m04.aol.com> Subject: Re: What are your credentials both scientific and anecdotal? Lines: 45 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original Message-ID: <Dsrod.29127$5b1.2255@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.38.8.13 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssvr17.news.prodigy.com 1101153187 ST000 67.38.8.13 (Mon, 22 Nov 2004 14:53:07 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 14:53:07 EST Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com X-UserInfo1: Q[O[BWKGAJW_STXYJZOD]_\@VR]^@B@MCPWZKB]MPXHNDQUBLNTC@AWZWDXZXQ[K\FFSKCVM@F_N_DOBWVWG__LG@VVOIPLIGX\\BU_B@\P\PFX\B[APHTWAHDCKJF^NHD[YJAZMCY_CWG[SX\Y]^KC\HSZRWSWKGAY_PC[BQ[BXAS\F\\@DMTLFZFUE@\VL Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 19:53:07 GMT OrgName: SBC Internet Services OrgID: SIS-80 Address: 2701 W 15th St PMB 236 City: Plano StateProv: TX PostalCode: 75075 Country: US Steve Mancuso the gig is up! >Dear patient or lay-person searching this news group for answers to dental >questions. > >As you no doubt have already noticed, this site has been hijacked by trolls Hijacked by trolls and SPAMMED by others! So we are invited to ask questions over there .... would that be ALL of us or only certain favored ones? Joel >trying to fabricate issues about toxicity levels and diseases which do not >exist. For years, the dentists who have participated on this news group [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > >Amatus Cremona LOL! man, joel, u act like a woman, trying to b all things to all ppl. On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 13:32:39 GMT, "Amatus Cremona" <Nicola@sottovocce.com> wrote: >Dear patient or lay-person searching this news group for answers to dental >questions. > >As you no doubt have already noticed, this site has been hijacked by trolls Hijacked by trolls and SPAMMED by others! So we are invited to ask questions over there .... would that be ALL of us or only certain favored ones? Joel >trying to fabricate issues about toxicity levels and diseases which do not >exist. For years, the dentists who have participated on this news group >have tried to debate these trolls scientifically, tried to argue with them >or just tried to ignore these posters. Unfortunately, these trolls have >chosen to continue their barrage of attacks against science and proven >methods of legitimate dental care. Finally, this group of dentists and >ancillary personnel, have chosen to simply go away. The down side of this >is that a lot of good people are left with their legitimate questions and >concerns un-answered. > >As a group, we [the regular posters from this news group] have been >discussing how to fill the void left by the absence of virtually all dental >professionals from this news group. After thorough discussion, we have >chosen to open a separate internet forum for people to ask questions, debate >dental science, review techniques, learn about regulatory issues, etc. > >We have created this forum at: www.scimeddentistry.com/smd > >We welcome anyone to come to this site and discuss dental topics and >concerns. To avoid flame wars and abuse to anyone posting to the site, >there is a group of moderators on the site who will remove any poster who is >rude, abusive, vulgar, or posts unwanted advertisements for other sites. >Spam will not be tolerated, nor will any Troll-type behavior. > >Participating in the site requires a valid email address. There is a log-in >process where you register and receive a confirmation email back prior to >gaining access to the site. This is only to enable us to eliminate those >posters who are abusive to the group. No information about any poster is >collected, no information is being sold or distributed to others. A cookie >is utilized only to enable the registration process and subsequent log-ins. > >Since the site is just now getting started, be patient if it takes a few >hours (or more) to get replies to your questions. Please understand that >the regulars who volunteer to be available at this site do so as volunteers >only. We receive no compensation beyond the opportunity to discuss our >favorite topics with interested people. No one is getting paid to be there, >and we all have lives outside of the internet. Although at times, that may >seem hard to believe. > >Please register on the site, obtain your email confirmation, and initiate or >join in on some discussion. > >Sincerely, > >Amatus Cremona > > > >>Dear patient or lay-person searching this news group for answers to dental >>questions. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Joel I think it is open to anyone. I think the idea though is that the administrator will reject any posts he feels are spam or trolling. That seems to be the idea. I figure I'll give it a shot. If I get slammed by people telling me I'm "JimSodum" and such, then I'll quit going there, as it seems to me, the whole idea of having an administrator is to stop that kind of b.s. >>>Dear patient or lay-person searching this news group for answers to >>>dental [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > going there, as it seems to me, the whole idea of having an > administrator is to stop that kind of b.s. Steve Mancuso is behind it for the sole purpose of hearing nothing outside of *organized dentistry* beliefs! well, everyone needs a hobby, i guess "JimSocal" <jimsocal@hottmail.com> wrote in message news:apttt19ngpd31r7gctvfsld6kku2ohhbcb@4ax.com... > On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 22:08:30 -0500, "Joel M. Eichen, D.D.S." > <joeleichen@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 13:32:39 GMT, "Amatus Cremona" >><Nicola@sottovocce.com> wrote: >> >>>Dear patient or lay-person searching this news group for answers to >>>dental >>>questions. >>> >>>As you no doubt have already noticed, this site has been hijacked by >>>trolls >> >> >>Hijacked by trolls and SPAMMED by others! >> >>So we are invited to ask questions over there .... would >>that be ALL of us or only certain favored ones? >> >> >>Joel >> > I think it is open to anyone. I think the idea though is that the > administrator will reject any posts he feels are spam or trolling. > That seems to be the idea. I figure I'll give it a shot. If I get > slammed by people telling me I'm "JimSodum" and such, then I'll quit > going there, as it seems to me, the whole idea of having an > administrator is to stop that kind of b.s. Steve Mancuso is behind it for the sole purpose of hearing nothing outside of *organized dentistry* beliefs! > Steve Mancuso is behind it for the sole purpose of hearing nothing outside > of *organized dentistry* beliefs! First of all, your posts on usenet here are very hard to read, there are artifacts from coding (xml?) all over the post, like this: "<BR>>>>dental<BR>>>>questions.<BR>>>><BR>>&= gt;>As=20 you no doubt have already noticed, this site has been hijacked by=20 <BR>>>>trolls<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>Hijacked by = trolls=20 and SPAMMED by others!<BR>>><BR>>>So we are invited to ask = " It's almost impossible to read it; you should figure out why and fix it. Secondly, I can't blame them for leaving this group. It is one thing for someone to bring up alternative ideas and discuss them, but once that idea has been disagreed with by about every one on the group, why continue? It becomes troll-like behavior at that point, to post in the face of almost total disagreement. And if they want a group that is moderated, then they certainly have that right, and it makes sense. All I care about is getting my questions answered by experts, and they seem to be providing that service. Meanwhile, they can also discuss professional things among themselves without going through tons of spam and troll-like posts. yes, but see, it is very difficult to control ppl and make them do what u want. my mamma said, "just ignore them" and that has always been the best advice to many of life's questions On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:25:56 GMT, "Harleygyrl A Bikerchyck" <aharleygyrl@icqmail.com> wrote: > Steve Mancuso is behind it for the sole purpose of hearing nothing outside > of *organized dentistry* beliefs! First of all, your posts on usenet here are very hard to read, there are artifacts from coding (xml?) all over the post, like this: "<BR>>>>dental<BR>>>>questions.<BR>>>><BR>>&= gt;>As=20 you no doubt have already noticed, this site has been hijacked by=20 <BR>>>>trolls<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>Hijacked by = trolls=20 and SPAMMED by others!<BR>>><BR>>>So we are invited to ask = " It's almost impossible to read it; you should figure out why and fix it. Secondly, I can't blame them for leaving this group. It is one thing for someone to bring up alternative ideas and discuss them, but once that idea has been disagreed with by about every one on the group, why continue? It becomes troll-like behavior at that point, to post in the face of almost total disagreement. And if they want a group that is moderated, then they certainly have that right, and it makes sense. All I care about is getting my questions answered by experts, and they seem to be providing that service. Meanwhile, they can also discuss professional things among themselves without going through tons of spam and troll-like posts >> Steve Mancuso is behind it for the sole purpose of hearing nothing >> outside [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > It's almost impossible to read it; you should figure out why and fix > it. That's not what I see?? > Secondly, I can't blame them for leaving this group. It is one thing > for someone to bring up alternative ideas and discuss them, but once [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > service. Meanwhile, they can also discuss professional things among > themselves without going through tons of spam and troll-like posts. This about that. Some of the dentists got short on the non-dentoid interruptions as when I invited the alt.body-mofification gang over for a rousing round of hootin' and hollerin'. Well we were talking labrets and stuff (drilling a hole through your lip above your chin and into your mouth). By me, that's ok in Papua New Guinea, but here in the U.S. when visitng a synagogue, I just am not comfortable when the cantor has a labret. Joel PS~ Joke here ...... no cantors have labrets ......... rabbis yes. Cantors, no. >>>>Dear patient or lay-person searching this news group for answers to >>>>dental [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >Steve Mancuso is behind it for the sole purpose of hearing nothing outside >of *organized dentistry* beliefs! > Dear patient or lay-person searching this news group for answers to dental > questions. > > As you no doubt have already noticed, this site has been hijacked by trolls REPLY ....... and people from other groups trying to hijack our dinner patrons ..... > trying to fabricate issues about toxicity levels and diseases which do not > exist. For years, the dentists who have participated on this news group [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > Amatus Cremona |
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