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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / February 2006The DANGERS of Root Canals
http://www.toothwisdom.net/r.root_canals.html http://www.integratedhealthpractice.com/treatment.asp#Root ll root cancel fillings have the potential to casue bad health. This is because, althought the nerve has been removed, bacteria still colonise in the minute tubules of a tooth. These bacteria produce toxins which enter the body causing potential harm. An area of residual infection which is left under the gum, usually following, but sometimes a long time after an extraction can cause problems. Symptoms can be coincided with the energetic links to the body as well as localised problems. http://www.zip.com.au/~rgammal/RCTframeset.htm http://www.ericdavisdental.com/root_canals.htm http://www.whale.to/d/root2.html http://www.drshankland.com/rootcanal.html http://webpages.charter.net/kyarbrough/rootcanals.htm http://www.dentistry-toothtruth.com/faq.htm http://www.cfsn.com/maz/ http://cnorman.best.vwh.net/blazing/dental.html http://rheumatic.org/teeth.htm http://www.zip.com.au/~rgammal/root_therapies.htm http://zap.intergate.ca/root.html http://www.dentistryholistic.com/education.html http://www.hugnet.com/Root_Canals.html http://www.karlloren.com/ultrasound/p25.htm http://www.hallvtox.dircon.co.uk/hallvt.html Root Canals. A tooth has miles of tiny canals running through the root. A dead or root filled tooth will have bacteria in these canals. There is no way of removing the bacteria once they are in there. http://www.toothwisdom.net/ Toxicity from Root Canals The next subject to be discussed are root canals and their possible source of toxicity. Approximately twenty five million Americans undergo root canal therapy every year in an effort to prevent the loss of teeth that have abscessed. The root canal is the left portion of the tooth which houses the vital organs such as the nerve and blood vessels. The dentist endeavors to clean and sterilize this canal and fill it with a sterile, non toxic inert material. This usually renders this tooth serviceable and non painful; however, the entire inner hard core of the tooth is made of dentin which has several million dentinal tubules. These tubules allow the circulation of lymphatic type fluid to circulate from the vital organs of the root canal to the outside of the tooth. This is a viable circulatory phenomenon which has a purpose. It services the periodontal ligament as well as the sensory aspect of the nerve and blood centers in the root canal. If the body chemistry is healthy, the flow of lymphatic fluid is from the root canal to the outside of the tooth. This creates an irrigation for the tooth and usually prevents the accumulation of plaque to form. When the body chemistry is not healthy, then the circulation is from the outside of the tooth to the inner root canal. This allows for no irrigation, but rather an accumulation of plaque to form. There are many more reasons for maintaining the integrity of the circulation in the dentinal tubules. Root canal therapy completely destroys this integrity, and what happens to the non-circulating fluid in these tubules? This fluid as it ages becomes stagnant and becomes a toxic substance. This porous structure now becomes a septic mass emanating poisons into the body. Is this what you want? Mercury amalgams are said to be the caskets of the body. Root canals are said to be the cadavers of the body. I do not recommend root canals for anyone. Each individual has a right to their decisions. Many people simply do not wish to lose a member of their body. I respect this, and I always discuss the consequences. The next area of discussion is whether the root canal filling actually sterilizes the apical end of the tooth. There are so many lateral canals at the root end of the tooth where bacteria can harbor that it is unlikely that a complete aseptic condition exists. This, however, is a debateable subject. Again, the complete acceptance of root canal therapy as a viable substitution for extraction is completely and whole heartedly supported by organized dentistry. You are in violation of the code of ethics if you speak out against root canal therapy. When I was a practicing dentist, I always let the patient make that decision after explaining all pros and cons. FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: >California Judge Approves Landmark Warning on Mercury Use in Dentistry. >(San Francisco, CA) - For the first time anywhere, dentists will be >required to post a warning about the dangers of mercury in their dental >fillings. A California Superior court judge finalized the language for >the warning to be posted in dentists' offices here today. >The warning will read as follows: >Notice to Patients, Proposition 65: >Warning on dental amalgams, used in many dental fillings, causes exposure >to mercury, a chemical known to the state of California to cause birth >defects or other reproductive harm. >Root canal treatments and restorations including fillings, crowns and >bridges, use chemicals known to the state of California to cause cancer. >The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has studied the situation and >approved for use all dental restorative materials. >Consult your dentist to determine which materials are appropriate for your >treatment. >The exact language of the warning was argued and then finalized before >Superior Court Judge James A. Robertson II between the California Dental >Association, the largest constituent organization of the American Dental >Association and Attorney Shawn Khorrami (Cor-ahm-mee). The agreement >requires its member dentists to warn patients about the toxic dangers of >mercury dental fillings and root canals. The agreement also allows non-CDA >dentists to opt in to the agreement and post the warning. >The warning is the result of a lawsuit filed by The Law Offices of Shawn >Khorrami on behalf of As You Sow, a not-for-profit foundation dedicated to >advocacy and activism in the public interest. >"This is the first admission by organized dentistry that amalgams pose a >potential health risk," says Shawn Khorrami, lead attorney. "The only >problem is that it's about 100 years too late." >This California consent judgment follows on the heels of recent lawsuits >filed in Georgia, Texas, Ohio and Los Angeles, California charging that >mercury fillings placed in a woman's mouth contributed to the autism of >her child, as well as lawsuits in Maryland, California, and New York >charging the American Dental Association with misrepresenting amalgam >dental fillings as "silver." The lawsuits basically allege that such >fillings actually contain approximately 50% mercury by weight. They cause >continuous, daily exposure to mercury and, thereby pose substantial health >risks to certain users. Mercury, a highly toxic substance, is the most >widely used substance in dental fillings today. >The use of mercury-based thimerosal in vaccines also has been the source >of the recent controversy in the Homeland Security legislation. >Khorrami filed the lawsuit against Roger Fieldman D.D.S., Inc., the >Citadel Dental Group, Inc. dental offices, dental laboratories and >private dental schools and training programs with more than nine >employees. The suit won the enforcement of Proposition 65, Safe Drinking >Water and Toxics Enforcement Act [Health & Safety Code § 25249.6]. >Proposition 65 requires that a clear and reasonable warning be provided to >persons prior to their exposure to a chemical known to cause cancer or >reproductive harm. This statute lists mercury, contained in dental >amalgam, as a substance that can cause reproductive toxicity. The lawsuit >was based on the absence of warnings to patients treated with amalgam >restorative materials in dental offices. >The judgment on Proposition 65 mandates that all dental offices with more >than nine employees provide warnings on the dangers of Mercury dental >fillings to patients. Those in non-compliance could incur a fine of up to >$2,500 per day. >Press may contact: Jackie Gladfelter at 650-218-1856 or D. Infusino at >415-225-7970; call Attorney Shawn Khorrami at 818-947-5111. >### Jan FRUITCAKE RELEASE. [snip] http://www.toothwisdom.net/r.root_canals.html http://www.integratedhealthpractice.com/treatment.asp#Root ll root cancel fillings have the potential to casue bad health. This is because, althought the nerve has been removed, bacteria still colonise in the minute tubules of a tooth. These bacteria produce toxins which enter the body causing potential harm. An area of residual infection which is left under the gum, usually following, but sometimes a long time after an extraction can cause problems. Symptoms can be coincided with the energetic links to the body as well as localised problems. http://www.zip.com.au/~rgammal/RCTframeset.htm http://www.ericdavisdental.com/root_canals.htm http://www.whale.to/d/root2.html http://www.drshankland.com/rootcanal.html http://webpages.charter.net/kyarbrough/rootcanals.htm http://www.dentistry-toothtruth.com/faq.htm http://www.cfsn.com/maz/ http://cnorman.best.vwh.net/blazing/dental.html http://rheumatic.org/teeth.htm http://www.zip.com.au/~rgammal/root_therapies.htm http://zap.intergate.ca/root.html http://www.dentistryholistic.com/education.html http://www.hugnet.com/Root_Canals.html http://www.karlloren.com/ultrasound/p25.htm http://www.hallvtox.dircon.co.uk/hallvt.html Root Canals. A tooth has miles of tiny canals running through the root. A dead or root filled tooth will have bacteria in these canals. There is no way of removing the bacteria once they are in there. http://www.toothwisdom.net/ Toxicity from Root Canals The next subject to be discussed are root canals and their possible source of toxicity. Approximately twenty five million Americans undergo root canal therapy every year in an effort to prevent the loss of teeth that have abscessed. The root canal is the left portion of the tooth which houses the vital organs such as the nerve and blood vessels. The dentist endeavors to clean and sterilize this canal and fill it with a sterile, non toxic inert material. This usually renders this tooth serviceable and non painful; however, the entire inner hard core of the tooth is made of dentin which has several million dentinal tubules. These tubules allow the circulation of lymphatic type fluid to circulate from the vital organs of the root canal to the outside of the tooth. This is a viable circulatory phenomenon which has a purpose. It services the periodontal ligament as well as the sensory aspect of the nerve and blood centers in the root canal. If the body chemistry is healthy, the flow of lymphatic fluid is from the root canal to the outside of the tooth. This creates an irrigation for the tooth and usually prevents the accumulation of plaque to form. When the body chemistry is not healthy, then the circulation is from the outside of the tooth to the inner root canal. This allows for no irrigation, but rather an accumulation of plaque to form. There are many more reasons for maintaining the integrity of the circulation in the dentinal tubules. Root canal therapy completely destroys this integrity, and what happens to the non-circulating fluid in these tubules? This fluid as it ages becomes stagnant and becomes a toxic substance. This porous structure now becomes a septic mass emanating poisons into the body. Is this what you want? Mercury amalgams are said to be the caskets of the body. Root canals are said to be the cadavers of the body. I do not recommend root canals for anyone. Each individual has a right to their decisions. Many people simply do not wish to lose a member of their body. I respect this, and I always discuss the consequences. The next area of discussion is whether the root canal filling actually sterilizes the apical end of the tooth. There are so many lateral canals at the root end of the tooth where bacteria can harbor that it is unlikely that a complete aseptic condition exists. This, however, is a debateable subject. Again, the complete acceptance of root canal therapy as a viable substitution for extraction is completely and whole heartedly supported by organized dentistry. You are in violation of the code of ethics if you speak out against root canal therapy. When I was a practicing dentist, I always let the patient make that decision after explaining all pros and cons. FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: >California Judge Approves Landmark Warning on Mercury Use in Dentistry. >(San Francisco, CA) - For the first time anywhere, dentists will be [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] >415-225-7970; call Attorney Shawn Khorrami at 818-947-5111. >### Jan > http://www. spam noted and reported what a wackjob.... Robert Morien wrote:w > > http://www. > > spam noted and reported And she is not even a dentist > And she is not even a dentist Doesn't fly. *I* did NOT write the material, *I* only posted it! http://www.toothwisdom.net/r.root_canals.html > http://www.integratedhealthpractice.com/treatment.asp#Root > [quoted text clipped - 197 lines] > > Jan You compiled a bunch of garbage and a are posting about a subject you know nothing about. Alex, email me privately please > You compiled a bunch of garbage and a are posting about a subject you > know nothing about. > You compiled a bunch of garbage and a are posting about a subject you > know nothing about. The subject is not *me* See that DDS beside your name. Take note of who authored the articles. Sorry it you wish to remain in denial. OMMV. http://www.toothwisdom.net/r.root_canals.html > http://www.integratedhealthpractice.com/treatment.asp#Root > [quoted text clipped - 197 lines] > > Jan > *me* spam noted and reported Robert Morien wrote: > > *me* > > spam noted and reported what... > Robert Morien wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > what... Only words Robert knows. Poor Robert. http://www.toothwisdom.net/r.root_canals.html http://www.integratedhealthpractice.com/treatment.asp#Root ll root cancel fillings have the potential to casue bad health. This is because, althought the nerve has been removed, bacteria still colonise in the minute tubules of a tooth. These bacteria produce toxins which enter the body causing potential harm. An area of residual infection which is left under the gum, usually following, but sometimes a long time after an extraction can cause problems. Symptoms can be coincided with the energetic links to the body as well as localised problems. http://www.zip.com.au/~rgammal/RCTframeset.htm http://www.ericdavisdental.com/root_canals.htm http://www.whale.to/d/root2.html http://www.drshankland.com/rootcanal.html http://webpages.charter.net/kyarbrough/rootcanals.htm http://www.dentistry-toothtruth.com/faq.htm http://www.cfsn.com/maz/ http://cnorman.best.vwh.net/blazing/dental.html http://rheumatic.org/teeth.htm http://www.zip.com.au/~rgammal/root_therapies.htm http://zap.intergate.ca/root.html http://www.dentistryholistic.com/education.html http://www.hugnet.com/Root_Canals.html http://www.karlloren.com/ultrasound/p25.htm http://www.hallvtox.dircon.co.uk/hallvt.html Root Canals. A tooth has miles of tiny canals running through the root. A dead or root filled tooth will have bacteria in these canals. There is no way of removing the bacteria once they are in there. http://www.toothwisdom.net/ Toxicity from Root Canals The next subject to be discussed are root canals and their possible source of toxicity. Approximately twenty five million Americans undergo root canal therapy every year in an effort to prevent the loss of teeth that have abscessed. The root canal is the left portion of the tooth which houses the vital organs such as the nerve and blood vessels. The dentist endeavors to clean and sterilize this canal and fill it with a sterile, non toxic inert material. This usually renders this tooth serviceable and non painful; however, the entire inner hard core of the tooth is made of dentin which has several million dentinal tubules. These tubules allow the circulation of lymphatic type fluid to circulate from the vital organs of the root canal to the outside of the tooth. This is a viable circulatory phenomenon which has a purpose. It services the periodontal ligament as well as the sensory aspect of the nerve and blood centers in the root canal. If the body chemistry is healthy, the flow of lymphatic fluid is from the root canal to the outside of the tooth. This creates an irrigation for the tooth and usually prevents the accumulation of plaque to form. When the body chemistry is not healthy, then the circulation is from the outside of the tooth to the inner root canal. This allows for no irrigation, but rather an accumulation of plaque to form. There are many more reasons for maintaining the integrity of the circulation in the dentinal tubules. Root canal therapy completely destroys this integrity, and what happens to the non-circulating fluid in these tubules? This fluid as it ages becomes stagnant and becomes a toxic substance. This porous structure now becomes a septic mass emanating poisons into the body. Is this what you want? Mercury amalgams are said to be the caskets of the body. Root canals are said to be the cadavers of the body. I do not recommend root canals for anyone. Each individual has a right to their decisions. Many people simply do not wish to lose a member of their body. I respect this, and I always discuss the consequences. The next area of discussion is whether the root canal filling actually sterilizes the apical end of the tooth. There are so many lateral canals at the root end of the tooth where bacteria can harbor that it is unlikely that a complete aseptic condition exists. This, however, is a debateable subject. Again, the complete acceptance of root canal therapy as a viable substitution for extraction is completely and whole heartedly supported by organized dentistry. You are in violation of the code of ethics if you speak out against root canal therapy. When I was a practicing dentist, I always let the patient make that decision after explaining all pros and cons. FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: >California Judge Approves Landmark Warning on Mercury Use in Dentistry. >(San Francisco, CA) - For the first time anywhere, dentists will be >required to post a warning about the dangers of mercury in their dental >fillings. A California Superior court judge finalized the language for >the warning to be posted in dentists' offices here today. >The warning will read as follows: >Notice to Patients, Proposition 65: >Warning on dental amalgams, used in many dental fillings, causes exposure >to mercury, a chemical known to the state of California to cause birth >defects or other reproductive harm. >Root canal treatments and restorations including fillings, crowns and >bridges, use chemicals known to the state of California to cause cancer. >The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has studied the situation and >approved for use all dental restorative materials. >Consult your dentist to determine which materials are appropriate for your >treatment. >The exact language of the warning was argued and then finalized before >Superior Court Judge James A. Robertson II between the California Dental [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >mercury dental fillings and root canals. The agreement also allows non-CDA >dentists to opt in to the agreement and post the warning. >The warning is the result of a lawsuit filed by The Law Offices of Shawn >Khorrami on behalf of As You Sow, a not-for-profit foundation dedicated to >advocacy and activism in the public interest. >"This is the first admission by organized dentistry that amalgams pose a >potential health risk," says Shawn Khorrami, lead attorney. "The only >problem is that it's about 100 years too late." >This California consent judgment follows on the heels of recent lawsuits >filed in Georgia, Texas, Ohio and Los Angeles, California charging that [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >risks to certain users. Mercury, a highly toxic substance, is the most >widely used substance in dental fillings today. >The use of mercury-based thimerosal in vaccines also has been the source >of the recent controversy in the Homeland Security legislation. >Khorrami filed the lawsuit against Roger Fieldman D.D.S., Inc., the >Citadel Dental Group, Inc. dental offices, dental laboratories and >private dental schools and training programs with more than nine >employees. The suit won the enforcement of Proposition 65, Safe Drinking >Water and Toxics Enforcement Act [Health & Safety Code § 25249.6]. >Proposition 65 requires that a clear and reasonable warning be provided to >persons prior to their exposure to a chemical known to cause cancer or >reproductive harm. This statute lists mercury, contained in dental >amalgam, as a substance that can cause reproductive toxicity. The lawsuit >was based on the absence of warnings to patients treated with amalgam >restorative materials in dental offices. >The judgment on Proposition 65 mandates that all dental offices with more >than nine employees provide warnings on the dangers of Mercury dental >fillings to patients. Those in non-compliance could incur a fine of up to >$2,500 per day. >Press may contact: Jackie Gladfelter at 650-218-1856 or D. Infusino at >415-225-7970; call Attorney Shawn Khorrami at 818-947-5111. >### Jan I did not author those articles. and there are plenty of nut cases around does not mean they are right and you are in no position to make that decision. >I did not author those articles. > and there are plenty of nut cases around does not mean they are right > and you are in no position to make that decision. Nut cases *In *your* opinion, YOU are not in any position to say they are wrong. Posted as a public service. http://www.toothwisdom.net/r.root_canals.html http://www.integratedhealthpractice.com/treatment.asp#Root ll root cancel fillings have the potential to casue bad health. This is because, althought the nerve has been removed, bacteria still colonise in the minute tubules of a tooth. These bacteria produce toxins which enter the body causing potential harm. An area of residual infection which is left under the gum, usually following, but sometimes a long time after an extraction can cause problems. Symptoms can be coincided with the energetic links to the body as well as localised problems. http://www.zip.com.au/~rgammal/RCTframeset.htm http://www.ericdavisdental.com/root_canals.htm http://www.whale.to/d/root2.html http://www.drshankland.com/rootcanal.html http://webpages.charter.net/kyarbrough/rootcanals.htm http://www.dentistry-toothtruth.com/faq.htm http://www.cfsn.com/maz/ http://cnorman.best.vwh.net/blazing/dental.html http://rheumatic.org/teeth.htm http://www.zip.com.au/~rgammal/root_therapies.htm http://zap.intergate.ca/root.html http://www.dentistryholistic.com/education.html http://www.hugnet.com/Root_Canals.html http://www.karlloren.com/ultrasound/p25.htm http://www.hallvtox.dircon.co.uk/hallvt.html Root Canals. A tooth has miles of tiny canals running through the root. A dead or root filled tooth will have bacteria in these canals. There is no way of removing the bacteria once they are in there. http://www.toothwisdom.net/ Toxicity from Root Canals The next subject to be discussed are root canals and their possible source of toxicity. Approximately twenty five million Americans undergo root canal therapy every year in an effort to prevent the loss of teeth that have abscessed. The root canal is the left portion of the tooth which houses the vital organs such as the nerve and blood vessels. The dentist endeavors to clean and sterilize this canal and fill it with a sterile, non toxic inert material. This usually renders this tooth serviceable and non painful; however, the entire inner hard core of the tooth is made of dentin which has several million dentinal tubules. These tubules allow the circulation of lymphatic type fluid to circulate from the vital organs of the root canal to the outside of the tooth. This is a viable circulatory phenomenon which has a purpose. It services the periodontal ligament as well as the sensory aspect of the nerve and blood centers in the root canal. If the body chemistry is healthy, the flow of lymphatic fluid is from the root canal to the outside of the tooth. This creates an irrigation for the tooth and usually prevents the accumulation of plaque to form. When the body chemistry is not healthy, then the circulation is from the outside of the tooth to the inner root canal. This allows for no irrigation, but rather an accumulation of plaque to form. There are many more reasons for maintaining the integrity of the circulation in the dentinal tubules. Root canal therapy completely destroys this integrity, and what happens to the non-circulating fluid in these tubules? This fluid as it ages becomes stagnant and becomes a toxic substance. This porous structure now becomes a septic mass emanating poisons into the body. Is this what you want? Mercury amalgams are said to be the caskets of the body. Root canals are said to be the cadavers of the body. I do not recommend root canals for anyone. Each individual has a right to their decisions. Many people simply do not wish to lose a member of their body. I respect this, and I always discuss the consequences. The next area of discussion is whether the root canal filling actually sterilizes the apical end of the tooth. There are so many lateral canals at the root end of the tooth where bacteria can harbor that it is unlikely that a complete aseptic condition exists. This, however, is a debateable subject. Again, the complete acceptance of root canal therapy as a viable substitution for extraction is completely and whole heartedly supported by organized dentistry. You are in violation of the code of ethics if you speak out against root canal therapy. When I was a practicing dentist, I always let the patient make that decision after explaining all pros and cons. FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: >California Judge Approves Landmark Warning on Mercury Use in Dentistry. >(San Francisco, CA) - For the first time anywhere, dentists will be >required to post a warning about the dangers of mercury in their dental >fillings. A California Superior court judge finalized the language for >the warning to be posted in dentists' offices here today. >The warning will read as follows: >Notice to Patients, Proposition 65: >Warning on dental amalgams, used in many dental fillings, causes exposure >to mercury, a chemical known to the state of California to cause birth >defects or other reproductive harm. >Root canal treatments and restorations including fillings, crowns and >bridges, use chemicals known to the state of California to cause cancer. >The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has studied the situation and >approved for use all dental restorative materials. >Consult your dentist to determine which materials are appropriate for your >treatment. >The exact language of the warning was argued and then finalized before >Superior Court Judge James A. Robertson II between the California Dental [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >mercury dental fillings and root canals. The agreement also allows non-CDA >dentists to opt in to the agreement and post the warning. >The warning is the result of a lawsuit filed by The Law Offices of Shawn >Khorrami on behalf of As You Sow, a not-for-profit foundation dedicated to >advocacy and activism in the public interest. >"This is the first admission by organized dentistry that amalgams pose a >potential health risk," says Shawn Khorrami, lead attorney. "The only >problem is that it's about 100 years too late." >This California consent judgment follows on the heels of recent lawsuits >filed in Georgia, Texas, Ohio and Los Angeles, California charging that [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >risks to certain users. Mercury, a highly toxic substance, is the most >widely used substance in dental fillings today. >The use of mercury-based thimerosal in vaccines also has been the source >of the recent controversy in the Homeland Security legislation. >Khorrami filed the lawsuit against Roger Fieldman D.D.S., Inc., the >Citadel Dental Group, Inc. dental offices, dental laboratories and >private dental schools and training programs with more than nine >employees. The suit won the enforcement of Proposition 65, Safe Drinking >Water and Toxics Enforcement Act [Health & Safety Code § 25249.6]. >Proposition 65 requires that a clear and reasonable warning be provided to >persons prior to their exposure to a chemical known to cause cancer or >reproductive harm. This statute lists mercury, contained in dental >amalgam, as a substance that can cause reproductive toxicity. The lawsuit >was based on the absence of warnings to patients treated with amalgam >restorative materials in dental offices. >The judgment on Proposition 65 mandates that all dental offices with more >than nine employees provide warnings on the dangers of Mercury dental >fillings to patients. Those in non-compliance could incur a fine of up to >$2,500 per day. >Press may contact: Jackie Gladfelter at 650-218-1856 or D. Infusino at >415-225-7970; call Attorney Shawn Khorrami at 818-947-5111. >### Jan I am in a position to say who is wrong or right that's why I have Doctor behind my name, it is a title which I earned. You on the other hand have no credentials. > I am in a position to say who is wrong or right that's why I have > Doctor behind my name, it is a title which I earned. You on the other > hand have no credentials. Dr. V, Has Amatus contacted you lately? Send me an e-mail if you don't mind. What is it about? I sent him an email he did not reply. Dental options. Something must have crossed up. I'm sure he would reply to your mail. D > What is it about? I sent him an email he did not reply. Send mail to dr{my first name}@{my last name}{my title} dot com > What is it about? I sent him an email he did not reply. > I am in a position to say who is wrong or right that's why I have > Doctor behind my name, it is a title which I earned. You on the other > hand have no credentials. So you are saying that non-dentists have no right to say what is right or wrong? I say a profession that cares so little about publically insulting the public while obviusly having money as its primary concern is the LAST group I want telling me right from wrong. I don't know how long you have been in the US but, Jan grew up in an era when educational opportunities were very limited for women. Probbly many or most universities did not even admit women into their advaced degree programs. The US was not always the level playing field of educational opportunity it is today. For example, you know supreme court justice Ginsberg? Do you know what they asked her during an interview when she was one of the first women to graduate with a law degree? How good are you at making coffee? Indeed there is no guarantee at all that Jan has less scientific acumen than you based on education. AND, certainly you assertion that she has not "earned" the right to criticize, is nothing but a comical example of dental Hubris. Clinton If you think you know more about dentistry then go fix your own god damn teeth. I am not a lawyer and I do not tell lawyers how to do their job and you are not a dentist so please do not tell me how to do mine. If you want to have a normal 1 to 1 conversation about dentistry get a dental degree and then will respect what you have to say at a level of a colleague, but until then both you and Jan are not in a position to give anyone advice or post what you may think is right or wrong about a field I and my fellow colleagues have dedicated our lives to. > Clinton > > If you think you know more about dentistry then go fix your own god > damn teeth. Truthfully after all the experiences I've gone through as a result of my dentist, I wish I had gone to dental school and fixed my own teeth. But why should anyone trust a profession that obviously has such a low regard for the public as you clearly demonstrate. > I am not a lawyer and I do not tell lawyers how to do their job and you > are not a dentist so please do not tell me how to do mine. > If you want to have a normal 1 to 1 conversation about dentistry get a > dental degree My scientific background is far stronger than yours so I can and will discuss these issues. A dental degree means nothing when it comes to science or even medicine. And I have attempted many times to hold meaningful discussions on materials issues and other dental issues, but no luck. Guess why? Anyway why should anyone have to get a dental degree to discuss science or even discuss medical/dental issues. That is so absurb I can't even believe a real person, let alone a supposed dental professional is writing these comments. >and then will respect what you have to say at a level of > a colleague, Learn to respect science and logic not titles. I guess if you can't engage in scientific or logical discussion then all you've got is your titles. you know going to dental or medical school is just a lot of memoriztion anyway. It doesn't make a logical thinker out of a jackass and quite the opposite encourages a follow the herd mentality. but until then both you and Jan are not in a position to > give anyone advice or post what you may think is right or wrong about a > field I and my fellow colleagues have dedicated our lives to. You've dedicated your lives to harassaing and muzzling dentists and members of the public who disagree with you. That is for sure. ps- I have not read through the information in Jan;'s links given in this thread so my comments do not imply agreement or disagreement with that information. SO WHAT?????????? > ps- I have not read through the information in Jan;'s links given in > this > thread so my comments do not imply agreement or disagreement with > that information. wow, that's ever so helpful, isn't it? Alexander Vasserman DDS wrote: > Clinton > If you think you know more about dentistry then go fix your own god > damn teeth. Truthfully after all the experiences I've gone through as a result of my dentist, I wish I had gone to dental school and fixed my own teeth. But why should anyone trust a profession that obviously has such a low regard for the public as you clearly demonstrate. There is a saying one who fixes his own teeth has an idiot for a patient. I have great regard for the public, except people like you and Jan who have nothing positive to add and only spread garbage on forums claiming it is science. > I am not a lawyer and I do not tell lawyers how to do their job and you > are not a dentist so please do not tell me how to do mine. > If you want to have a normal 1 to 1 conversation about dentistry get a > dental degree My scientific background is far stronger than yours so I can and will discuss these issues. A dental degree means nothing when it comes to science or even medicine. What is your scientific background and what degree do you hold? Because I have a science degree in addition to my DDS. And I have attempted many times to hold meaningful discussions on materials issues and other dental issues, but no luck. Guess why? Anyway why should anyone have to get a dental degree to discuss science or even discuss medical/dental issues. That is so absurb I can't even believe a real person, let alone a supposed dental professional is writing these comments. You can discuss all you want without a degree, but to post junk in the forum and falsely mislead the public and tell a dental professional how to practice denistry is out of line. Part of earning your say on the matter is knowing when to listen and ask questions because regardless of your science background your knowledge of dentistry and the body is very limited and until you have a DDS/DMD or MD or equivelent behind your name your words on the subject have meaningless value. The fact that you can't understand this, only makes you look like a fool. >and then will respect what you have to say at a level of > a colleague, Learn to respect science and logic not titles. Learn to learn. Titles are a representation of your effort to learn. And frankly if you do not have any titles, and you claim the absurd who do you expect to respect you??? I guess if you can't engage in scientific or logical discussion then all you've got is your titles. you know going to dental or medical school is just a lot of memoriztion anyway. >From somebody that hasn't been to dental school???? What do you know?? Memorization does not teach you how to diagnose. It doesn't make a logical thinker out of a jackass and quite the opposite encourages a follow the herd mentality. Sounds like your talking about yourself. I'm a lot more logical than you think or know. but until then both you and Jan are not in a position to > give anyone advice or post what you may think is right or wrong about a > field I and my fellow colleagues have dedicated our lives to. You've dedicated your lives to harassaing and muzzling dentists and members of the public who disagree with you. That is for sure And ofcourse you are the expert at muzzling. > What is your scientific background and what degree do you hold? Because > I have a science degree in addition to my DDS. Here you go worrying about titles and degrees. I've attempted to hold meaningful scientific disscussions many times. Believe me i know enough physics. You've been posting here for what 2 years with no meaningful comments or research on amalgam other than you don't place them, and now all your concerned about is titles. > And I have attempted many times to hold meaningful discussions on > materials [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > You can discuss all you want without a degree, but to post junk in the First I don't post junk. I rarely post any links and when I do, such as the article on miromercuralism people have actually thanked me. Second what gives you the right to label any posts junk without giving a reason. Oh, let me guess, you "earned" that right because you managed to graduate from dental school. > forum and falsely mislead the public and tell a dental professional how > to practice denistry is out of line. Most of the discussion has nothing to do with dentistry, they are materials issues. So why you insist that only someone with a "dental degree" can discuss materials is beyond me. Especially since these discussions have been going on for years with little comment from you. > Part of earning your say on the > matter is knowing when to listen and ask questions because regardless > of your science background your knowledge of dentistry and the body is > very limited and until you have a DDS/DMD or MD or equivelent behind > your name your words on the subject have meaningless value. I think the amount of Hg generated by amalgam is VERY relevant. according to you it is only relevant or understanble if one has a DDS/MD or equivalent. That's real logical. These comments are little more than a transparent attempt to silence anybody who isn't a clone of you or your collegues. Do you think people reading this list are that stupid? > Learn to learn. Titles are a representation of your effort to learn. > And frankly if you do not have any titles, and you claim the absurd who > do you expect to respect you??? How do you know what my educational background is? I will judge you on what you say, nothing else. Alexander Vasserman DDS wrote: > What is your scientific background and what degree do you hold? Because > I have a science degree in addition to my DDS. Here you go worrying about titles and degrees. I've attempted to hold meaningful scientific disscussions many times. not with me. Believe me i know enough physics. why do we need to believe you. What are your credentials??? You've been posting here for what 2 years with no meaningful comments or research on amalgam other than you don't place them, and now all your concerned about is titles. I've been posting here since 1994. I haven't seen anything meaningful come out of your posts. > And I have attempted many times to hold meaningful discussions on > materials > issues and other dental issues, but no luck. Guess why? maybe your posts are just too absurd. Anyway why > should anyone have to get a dental degree to discuss science or even > discuss medical/dental issues. Again you can discuss anything you want but don't claim to be an authority on the subject when you do not have the credentials. It's common sense and if you don't understand that then there is not much I can do for you. I am finding this discussion pointless and very boring. > You can discuss all you want without a degree, but to post junk in the First I don't post junk. I rarely post any links and when I do, such as the article on miromercuralism people have actually thanked me. Second what gives you the right to label any posts junk without giving a reason. Oh, let me guess, you "earned" that right because you managed to graduate from dental school. Yes. the discussion is about my field which I am regarded as an expert in and I have credentials to prove it. > forum and falsely mislead the public and tell a dental professional how > to practice denistry is out of line. Most of the discussion has nothing to do with dentistry, they are materials issues. Jan just posted her wacked version of the hazzards of rct and recommended extraction and you just jumped in to her defense without even reading her links. Very logical of you isn't it???? So why you insist that only someone with a "dental degree" can discuss materials is beyond me. Qualified people can discuss materials, the issue here was about treatment planing but I guess you did not read that either, how pathetic. Especially since these discussions have been going on for years with little comment from you. SO. > Part of earning your say on the > matter is knowing when to listen and ask questions because regardless > of your science background your knowledge of dentistry and the body is > very limited and until you have a DDS/DMD or MD or equivelent behind > your name your words on the subject have meaningless value. I think the amount of Hg generated by amalgam is VERY relevant. according to you it is only relevant or understanble if one has a DDS/MD or equivalent. That's real logical. Again you go off on a tangent. These comments are little more than a transparent attempt to silence anybody who isn't a clone of you or your collegues. Do you think people reading this list are that stupid? I can not comment on reader's intelligence but yours leaves a lot to be desired. > Learn to learn. Titles are a representation of your effort to learn. > And frankly if you do not have any titles, and you claim the absurd who > do you expect to respect you??? How do you know what my educational background is? I will judge you on what you say, nothing else. Why are you reluctant to post it, did you buy it online??? With all this hubablue about credentials, you don't have enough sense to post who you are replying to! > Alexander Vasserman DDS wrote: >> What is your scientific background and what degree do you hold? Because [quoted text clipped - 96 lines] > > Why are you reluctant to post it, did you buy it online??? It's pretty obvious. > Alexander Vasserman DDS wrote: > > What is your scientific background and what degree do you hold? Because [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > why do we need to believe you. What are your credentials??? Because all your responses are gauged toward what you think of the poster not what the poster say's. I could give my background but then your attitude would completely change and you would be responding to backround not what i say. > You've been posting here for what 2 years with no meaningful > comments or research on amalgam other than you don't place them, and > now all your concerned about is titles. > > I've been posting here since 1994. > I haven't seen anything meaningful come out of your posts. So you can tell me A function for the vapor pressure of amalgam. Set an upper limit of Hg releases Comment on the phase changes and instability in non-gamma two amalgam. Provide research showing the safety of amalgam for the top 1% You've seen papers on the instability of copper amalgam, research showing mechanism of crevice corrosion, changes in diagnostic criteria for micromercurialism etc but you've "seen nothing meaningful". How pretentiously smug. Whay don't you compute the brillouin zone for a nongamma two poorly mixed amalgam with 23 Cu. Put you money where your mouth is. > > And I have attempted many times to hold meaningful discussions on > > materials > > issues and other dental issues, but no luck. Guess why? > maybe your posts are just too absurd. It makes me sick when I post the quality of posts I post and I get that kind of BS response. You and the other dentists on the list don't give a crap do you. As long as your not caught and no one holds you accountable for the questionable practices of dentistry, screw them, even if the research is dumped like piss on top of your head. > Anyway why > > should anyone have to get a dental degree to discuss science or even > > discuss medical/dental issues. > Again you can discuss anything you want but don't claim to be an > authority on the subject when you do not have the credentials. First I will discuss anything I want. That's how it works in America. the public can ask anyquestions they want. That is why in other countries the place get's taken over by "elites" who then run the country into the ground while censoring any criticisim and then send their citizens to the US to make a living. If you don't support free speech and the right of the public to criticize and ask questions of any sort then you needn't make a living in the US. Go to some country that censors criticism. and restricts it's policy-making to "credentialed" authorties and go make a living there. Second, don't try to intimidate me with that "authority on the subject" stuff. YOU as a dentist know NOTHING about solid state, and the ADA does not even hold itself legally accountable for the use of amalgam, so YOU don't claim to be an authority on a subject you know little about, Third anybody can see from my posts that I have a strong physics backround from my posts and I do have a degree in physics., Yes I have taken, classica electrogmagnetics, mechanics, quantum mechanics, solids state, etc so I AM an authority on amalgam. Finally thanks for opening your mouth. Since you have established yourself as and ADA approved expert, What do you think of thermal effects on changes in vapor pressure of amalgm. What is the upper limit for corrosion on a high copper amalgam. What do you think is a realistic mechanism for the spontaneous formation of Hg droplets on the surface of amalgam in the paper I posted on COPPER AMALGAM INSTABILITY. What is the theoretical upper limit for elemental release of Hg from an amalgam. How are you calculating this. How do you view crevice corrosion and the formation of strong acids as a potential affect on amalgam Hg release rate. Can particles from amalgam be converted to elemental Hg in the stomach? Yes or No. Show me a theoretical equation for the magnetic constant of an amalgam? What is your view on thermal cycling and it's affect on amalgam leakage through different types of cements? Let me guess, you cannot respond because discussing these issues would now be "boring", even though these subjects affect EVERY SINGLE PATIENT with an amalgam in their mouth. > Most of the discussion has nothing to do with dentistry, they are > materials > issues. > Jan just posted her wacked version of the hazzards of rct and > recommended extraction and you just jumped in to her defense without > even reading her links. Very logical of you isn't it???? There is a lot of controvesy in this area. I'm sure if I read all the links I would find many legitamite points of controversy. Trying to muzzle someone in a blanket manner is simply not right. I've made that clear enough. If you don't get the point by now your super dense. > So why you insist that only someone with a "dental degree" can > discuss materials is beyond me. > Qualified people can discuss materials, ANYBODY can discuss dental materials. A degree does not make you competent either. Can a High school chemistry prodigy discuss amalgam? Can a sixth grader doing a science project on fillings. Can a stay at home Mom or a retired factory worker? Are they allowed to without a degree? Vasser says no, even if the questions are logical and obvious, even if they have worked in dental labs!! They first have to have the proper credentials to think for themselves! the issue here was about > treatment planing but I guess you did not read that either, how > pathetic. Please come up with your own orignal insults if your not original enough don't copy mine, and why use that point which I pointed out in the last thread myself? > Especially since these discussions have > been going on for years with little comment from you. > SO. Perahps you realize that amalgam is a hazardous material and do not want to admit that? > I can not comment on reader's intelligence but yours leaves a lot to be > desired. Really because I was a member of Mensa. This shows the quality of your judgement and you reading comprehension and memory retention level since this has been posted more than once. Again the most relevant thing I get out of this thread is that dentists withyour degree of indifference are handling Hg and performing procedures without thorough understanding of potential consequences (even though you don't use amalgam yourself). Truly scary. > How do you know what my educational background is? I will judge you on > what you say, nothing else. > > Why are you reluctant to post it, did you buy it online??? I already posted it. What I did not do is go to dental school, learn to drill a few holes, and then proclaim myself and expert on solid state phyics and Hg toxicity. Clinton You've asked a lot of questions that have nothing to do with this thread "the dangers of root canals". with respect to your questions about amalgam it's vapour pressure, etc... hard to tell what you want answered first looks like you want a lot answered and frankly I'm not in the mood to intertain you. Furthermore and most importantly you need to look at how these properties exhibit in vivo. You can theorize all you want does not mean your hypothesis is correct until you test it in a live patient. > Clinton > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > hard to tell what you want answered first looks like you want a lot > answered and frankly I'm not in the mood to intertain you. The truth is these questions would be very difficult (actually impossible) for anybody to completely answer no matter how educated. As one chemist anti-amalgamist said, we won't really understand how amalgam works until some genius comes up with a new theory and figures it all out, so let's all stop pretending (although obviously many characteristics are known) that dentists have some secret knowledge that nobody else has about the safety of amalgam. Furthermore > and most importantly you need to look at how these properties exhibit > in vivo. > You can theorize all you want does not mean your hypothesis is correct > until you test it in a live patient. And that gets back to the above. I hope people reading this realize that what that means it that we don't know how an amalgam will behave in a patient. So then we get back to experimental data. Well I don't think dentists have a corner on this market either, in fact the experimental methods they use are incorrect, the research non-existant, etc, not to mention the obvious self interest. Didn't the ADA claim that an amalgam was inert in a patients mouth for decades based on the experimental data?? Is that not the greatest fraud in history? So members of the public should agressively ask questions no matter what their degree is my point. > My scientific background is far stronger than yours so I can and will > discuss > these issues. A dental degree means nothing when it comes to science > or even medicine. no hubris here > Clinton > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > give anyone advice or post what you may think is right or wrong about a > field I and my fellow colleagues have dedicated our lives to. No one is giving anyone advice! Posted as a public service! > Clinton > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > give anyone advice or post what you may think is right or wrong about a > field I and my fellow colleagues have dedicated our lives to. No one is giving advice! Calm down! http://www.toothwisdom.net/r.root_canals.html http://www.integratedhealthpractice.com/treatment.asp#Root ll root cancel fillings have the potential to casue bad health. This is because, althought the nerve has been removed, bacteria still colonise in the minute tubules of a tooth. These bacteria produce toxins which enter the body causing potential harm. An area of residual infection which is left under the gum, usually following, but sometimes a long time after an extraction can cause problems. Symptoms can be coincided with the energetic links to the body as well as localised problems. http://www.zip.com.au/~rgammal/RCTframeset.htm http://www.ericdavisdental.com/root_canals.htm http://www.whale.to/d/root2.html http://www.drshankland.com/rootcanal.html http://webpages.charter.net/kyarbrough/rootcanals.htm http://www.dentistry-toothtruth.com/faq.htm http://www.cfsn.com/maz/ http://cnorman.best.vwh.net/blazing/dental.html http://rheumatic.org/teeth.htm http://www.zip.com.au/~rgammal/root_therapies.htm http://zap.intergate.ca/root.html http://www.dentistryholistic.com/education.html http://www.hugnet.com/Root_Canals.html http://www.karlloren.com/ultrasound/p25.htm http://www.hallvtox.dircon.co.uk/hallvt.html Root Canals. A tooth has miles of tiny canals running through the root. A dead or root filled tooth will have bacteria in these canals. There is no way of removing the bacteria once they are in there. http://www.toothwisdom.net/ Toxicity from Root Canals The next subject to be discussed are root canals and their possible source of toxicity. Approximately twenty five million Americans undergo root canal therapy every year in an effort to prevent the loss of teeth that have abscessed. The root canal is the left portion of the tooth which houses the vital organs such as the nerve and blood vessels. The dentist endeavors to clean and sterilize this canal and fill it with a sterile, non toxic inert material. This usually renders this tooth serviceable and non painful; however, the entire inner hard core of the tooth is made of dentin which has several million dentinal tubules. These tubules allow the circulation of lymphatic type fluid to circulate from the vital organs of the root canal to the outside of the tooth. This is a viable circulatory phenomenon which has a purpose. It services the periodontal ligament as well as the sensory aspect of the nerve and blood centers in the root canal. If the body chemistry is healthy, the flow of lymphatic fluid is from the root canal to the outside of the tooth. This creates an irrigation for the tooth and usually prevents the accumulation of plaque to form. When the body chemistry is not healthy, then the circulation is from the outside of the tooth to the inner root canal. This allows for no irrigation, but rather an accumulation of plaque to form. There are many more reasons for maintaining the integrity of the circulation in the dentinal tubules. Root canal therapy completely destroys this integrity, and what happens to the non-circulating fluid in these tubules? This fluid as it ages becomes stagnant and becomes a toxic substance. This porous structure now becomes a septic mass emanating poisons into the body. Is this what you want? Mercury amalgams are said to be the caskets of the body. Root canals are said to be the cadavers of the body. I do not recommend root canals for anyone. Each individual has a right to their decisions. Many people simply do not wish to lose a member of their body. I respect this, and I always discuss the consequences. The next area of discussion is whether the root canal filling actually sterilizes the apical end of the tooth. There are so many lateral canals at the root end of the tooth where bacteria can harbor that it is unlikely that a complete aseptic condition exists. This, however, is a debateable subject. Again, the complete acceptance of root canal therapy as a viable substitution for extraction is completely and whole heartedly supported by organized dentistry. You are in violation of the code of ethics if you speak out against root canal therapy. When I was a practicing dentist, I always let the patient make that decision after explaining all pros and cons. FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - >California Judge Approves Landmark Warning on Mercury Use in Dentistry. >(San Francisco, CA) - For the first time anywhere, dentists will be [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] >415-225-7970; call Attorney Shawn Khorrami at 818-947-5111. >### Jan ll root cancel fillings have the potential to casue bad health. Not for the past 30 years This is because, althought the nerve has been removed, bacteria still colonise in the minute tubules of a tooth. Bacteria is killed with BLEACH after nerve is removed. These bacteria produce toxins which enter the body causing potential harm. Bactreria enter the body all the time even from brushing or biting into sharp bones thus cutting the gums. An area of residual infection which is left under the gum, usually following, but sometimes a long time after an extraction can cause problems. If the extraction is done properly there should not be anything left behind. Symptoms can be coincided with the energetic links to the body as well as localised problems. > ll root cancel fillings have the potential to casue bad health. > Not for the past 30 years So, you say! Others DDS'S, MD'S and RESEARCHERS do NOT. http://www.toothwisdom.net/r.root_canals.html http://www.integratedhealthpractice.com/treatment.asp#Root ll root cancel fillings have the potential to casue bad health. This is because, althought the nerve has been removed, bacteria still colonise in the minute tubules of a tooth. These bacteria produce toxins which enter the body causing potential harm. An area of residual infection which is left under the gum, usually following, but sometimes a long time after an extraction can cause problems. Symptoms can be coincided with the energetic links to the body as well as localised problems. http://www.zip.com.au/~rgammal/RCTframeset.htm http://www.ericdavisdental.com/root_canals.htm http://www.whale.to/d/root2.html http://www.drshankland.com/rootcanal.html http://webpages.charter.net/kyarbrough/rootcanals.htm http://www.dentistry-toothtruth.com/faq.htm http://www.cfsn.com/maz/ http://cnorman.best.vwh.net/blazing/dental.html http://rheumatic.org/teeth.htm http://www.zip.com.au/~rgammal/root_therapies.htm http://zap.intergate.ca/root.html http://www.dentistryholistic.com/education.html http://www.hugnet.com/Root_Canals.html http://www.karlloren.com/ultrasound/p25.htm http://www.hallvtox.dircon.co.uk/hallvt.html Root Canals. A tooth has miles of tiny canals running through the root. A dead or root filled tooth will have bacteria in these canals. There is no way of removing the bacteria once they are in there. http://www.toothwisdom.net/ Toxicity from Root Canals The next subject to be discussed are root canals and their possible source of toxicity. Approximately twenty five million Americans undergo root canal therapy every year in an effort to prevent the loss of teeth that have abscessed. The root canal is the left portion of the tooth which houses the vital organs such as the nerve and blood vessels. The dentist endeavors to clean and sterilize this canal and fill it with a sterile, non toxic inert material. This usually renders this tooth serviceable and non painful; however, the entire inner hard core of the tooth is made of dentin which has several million dentinal tubules. These tubules allow the circulation of lymphatic type fluid to circulate from the vital organs of the root canal to the outside of the tooth. This is a viable circulatory phenomenon which has a purpose. It services the periodontal ligament as well as the sensory aspect of the nerve and blood centers in the root canal. If the body chemistry is healthy, the flow of lymphatic fluid is from the root canal to the outside of the tooth. This creates an irrigation for the tooth and usually prevents the accumulation of plaque to form. When the body chemistry is not healthy, then the circulation is from the outside of the tooth to the inner root canal. This allows for no irrigation, but rather an accumulation of plaque to form. There are many more reasons for maintaining the integrity of the circulation in the dentinal tubules. Root canal therapy completely destroys this integrity, and what happens to the non-circulating fluid in these tubules? This fluid as it ages becomes stagnant and becomes a toxic substance. This porous structure now becomes a septic mass emanating poisons into the body. Is this what you want? Mercury amalgams are said to be the caskets of the body. Root canals are said to be the cadavers of the body. I do not recommend root canals for anyone. Each individual has a right to their decisions. Many people simply do not wish to lose a member of their body. I respect this, and I always discuss the consequences. The next area of discussion is whether the root canal filling actually sterilizes the apical end of the tooth. There are so many lateral canals at the root end of the tooth where bacteria can harbor that it is unlikely that a complete aseptic condition exists. This, however, is a debateable subject. Again, the complete acceptance of root canal therapy as a viable substitution for extraction is completely and whole heartedly supported by organized dentistry. You are in violation of the code of ethics if you speak out against root canal therapy. When I was a practicing dentist, I always let the patient make that decision after explaining all pros and cons. FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - >California Judge Approves Landmark Warning on Mercury Use in Dentistry. >(San Francisco, CA) - For the first time anywhere, dentists will be [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] >415-225-7970; call Attorney Shawn Khorrami at 818-947-5111. >### Jan > This is > because, althought the nerve has been removed, bacteria still colonise [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > as > localised problems. > ll root cancel fillings have the potential to casue bad health. > Not for the past 30 years So, you say! Others DDS'S, MD'S and RESEARCHERS do NOT. Then the argument is between them and myself. You are not qualified to interpret anyone's research. > > ll root cancel fillings have the potential to casue bad health. > > Not for the past 30 years [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Then the argument is between them and myself. You are not qualified to > interpret anyone's research. Jan is posting in America! In America you have the right to post and say what you want!!!. You don't have to have a dental degree to offer an opinion on a dental subject!!!! Especially if your jaw has been ruined by dentistry. The public is the conscience of the country and only needs logic and common sense to ask meaningful questions. It's called DEMOCRACY. That's how the jury system works too. Ordinary people can and do weigh complex issues. They don't have to have a degree in every issue they deliberate. But according to Vasser that probably means the US jury system is corrupt too. In fact, in the US look at all the stay at home Moms who have become activists on various issues over the years and contributed to many issues, such as enviromental causes, diseases such as autism, political corruption etc. According to Vasser they should shut up, because they don't have degrees in nuclear energy, medicine political science etc. So they are not qualified to comment in public on these issues or debate with "experts" and certainly would not be educated enough to sit on a jury to decide these issues. To heck with them and to heck with the public say's Vasser, even when he knows that the research done on many of these issues by dental organizations is NONEXISTENT has been 100% wrong in the past and that the medical/scientific training of most dentists is a joke! Let the cluess, greedy, financially driven experts decide you fate and run you health and country into the ground, becasue they possess the right "credentials" so they have the "right" to shove anything in your mouth they want including Hg, and of course you as a memeber of the public always have the option to sh.t it out the Hg at least, if you wish. As for me I have already posted my educational background which is excellent. You've been reading this list since 1994 but you missed that I guess. By the way I was also a member of MENSA which can be proven easily. Are you a member of such a selective society? If not, I conclude that you don't have the intelligence to hold a meaningful discussion and thus don't have the right to offer your opinion on anything pertaining to the safety of dental procedues. Prove to me that you have the intelligence to be WORTHY of discussing these issues and then we will talk. Hah --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Actually, Jan I do recall now that strangley enough Vasser has not offered much comment on amalgam. That is very odd. AND, I did read his website a year or two ago. I don't know if he has the same information on it but it actually struck me as strongly leaning toward the anti-amalgam side in a sneaky way, under the pretense that newer materials were better for cosmetic dentistry, and it was an inescapable fact that amalgam does release Hg and so on. But he must do many RC which would explain his defensiveness on this issue! Very well said, Clinton **** >> > ll root cancel fillings have the potential to casue bad health. >> > Not for the past 30 years [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > so on. But he must do many RC which would explain his defensiveness on > this issue! > Jan is posting in America! In America you have the right to post and > say what you want!!!. oh yeah! can you point us to where this "right" is defined? There is nothing sneaky about my opinion about amalgam I haven't placed one in years. At the same time I am not going to jump on the "ban the amalgam" band wagon. This kind of talk only leads to more regulation which increases the cost of dentistry which is something we all do not need. Amalgam will become extinct on its own just like "natural selection". I've already had headaches with the city sanitation department extorting me to obtain waste disposal permits just because I have DDS behind my name regardless of the fact that I do not place amalgams. > There is nothing sneaky about my opinion about amalgam I haven't placed > one in years. At the same time I am not going to jump on the "ban the > amalgam" band wagon. This kind of talk only leads to more regulation > which increases the cost of dentistry which is something we all do not > need. Amalgam will become extinct on its own just like "natural > selection". So you view dentists using amalgam as part of the natural selection selection process. That is a very interesting viewpoint...to say the least. Clinton Ginsberg has a law degree Jan does not have DDS or DMD behind her name. And if you think her acumen is up to par as far as dentistry is concerned then please go to her for your dental needs and the rest of us here at sci.med.dentistry will be ROTFLOA. That will be the comical moment you so desire. I do believe there are still some jurisdictions that do not require a DDS or DMD degree to get licenced so Jan can now take the boards without worry of descrimination and being asked to make coffee and you can be her board patient. [snip] Does is take a DDS to post? FRUITCAKE RELEASE. >[snip] > >Does is take a DDS to post? No, but a DDS has a lot more credibility than Jan Drew who is simply a high school graduate and former day care center owner. If Jan is going to post articles talking about the dangers of root canals she needs to be able to discuss these articles with those who may disagree with the conclusions. She does not have the education to discuss the issue and simply calls people liars who disagree. Aloha, Rich Aloha, Rich >FRUITCAKE RELEASE. >I am in a position to say who is wrong or right that's why I have > Doctor behind my name, it is a title which I earned. You on the other > hand have no credentials. Totally Irrelevant. http://www.toothwisdom.net/r.root_canals.html http://www.integratedhealthpractice.com/treatment.asp#Root ll root cancel fillings have the potential to casue bad health. This is because, althought the nerve has been removed, bacteria still colonise in the minute tubules of a tooth. These bacteria produce toxins which enter the body causing potential harm. An area of residual infection which is left under the gum, usually following, but sometimes a long time after an extraction can cause problems. Symptoms can be coincided with the energetic links to the body as well as localised problems. http://www.zip.com.au/~rgammal/RCTframeset.htm http://www.ericdavisdental.com/root_canals.htm http://www.whale.to/d/root2.html http://www.drshankland.com/rootcanal.html http://webpages.charter.net/kyarbrough/rootcanals.htm http://www.dentistry-toothtruth.com/faq.htm http://www.cfsn.com/maz/ http://cnorman.best.vwh.net/blazing/dental.html http://rheumatic.org/teeth.htm http://www.zip.com.au/~rgammal/root_therapies.htm http://zap.intergate.ca/root.html http://www.dentistryholistic.com/education.html http://www.hugnet.com/Root_Canals.html http://www.karlloren.com/ultrasound/p25.htm http://www.hallvtox.dircon.co.uk/hallvt.html Root Canals. A tooth has miles of tiny canals running through the root. A dead or root filled tooth will have bacteria in these canals. There is no way of removing the bacteria once they are in there. http://www.toothwisdom.net/ Toxicity from Root Canals The next subject to be discussed are root canals and their possible source of toxicity. Approximately twenty five million Americans undergo root canal therapy every year in an effort to prevent the loss of teeth that have abscessed. The root canal is the left portion of the tooth which houses the vital organs such as the nerve and blood vessels. The dentist endeavors to clean and sterilize this canal and fill it with a sterile, non toxic inert material. This usually renders this tooth serviceable and non painful; however, the entire inner hard core of the tooth is made of dentin which has several million dentinal tubules. These tubules allow the circulation of lymphatic type fluid to circulate from the vital organs of the root canal to the outside of the tooth. This is a viable circulatory phenomenon which has a purpose. It services the periodontal ligament as well as the sensory aspect of the nerve and blood centers in the root canal. If the body chemistry is healthy, the flow of lymphatic fluid is from the root canal to the outside of the tooth. This creates an irrigation for the tooth and usually prevents the accumulation of plaque to form. When the body chemistry is not healthy, then the circulation is from the outside of the tooth to the inner root canal. This allows for no irrigation, but rather an accumulation of plaque to form. There are many more reasons for maintaining the integrity of the circulation in the dentinal tubules. Root canal therapy completely destroys this integrity, and what happens to the non-circulating fluid in these tubules? This fluid as it ages becomes stagnant and becomes a toxic substance. This porous structure now becomes a septic mass emanating poisons into the body. Is this what you want? Mercury amalgams are said to be the caskets of the body. Root canals are said to be the cadavers of the body. I do not recommend root canals for anyone. Each individual has a right to their decisions. Many people simply do not wish to lose a member of their body. I respect this, and I always discuss the consequences. The next area of discussion is whether the root canal filling actually sterilizes the apical end of the tooth. There are so many lateral canals at the root end of the tooth where bacteria can harbor that it is unlikely that a complete aseptic condition exists. This, however, is a debateable subject. Again, the complete acceptance of root canal therapy as a viable substitution for extraction is completely and whole heartedly supported by organized dentistry. You are in violation of the code of ethics if you speak out against root canal therapy. When I was a practicing dentist, I always let the patient make that decision after explaining all pros and cons. FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - >California Judge Approves Landmark Warning on Mercury Use in Dentistry. >(San Francisco, CA) - For the first time anywhere, dentists will be [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] >415-225-7970; call Attorney Shawn Khorrami at 818-947-5111. >### Jan >>I am in a position to say who is wrong or right that's why I have >> Doctor behind my name, it is a title which I earned. You on the other >> hand have no credentials. > >Totally Irrelevant. Can you get much more arrogant than Jan Drew?? She thinks that she knows more than dentists about root canal dangers. Sadly Jan Drew does not realize that she does not possess the training to properly evaluate articles that say that root canals are dangerous. She simply assumes that these articles are factual and that all the dentists in this newsgroup are wrong. Cue Jan to call me a liar and prove she is a stalker. Aloha, Rich |
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