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Why don't dentists ever explain things?
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JimSocal - 30 Dec 2005 10:01 GMT As I was having my root canal done today, I kept wondering exactly what it was he was doing to me, and finally, when I got home I looked it up on the net and got a pretty good idea what was going on.
But it occured to me that most dentists I've been to never explain the procedures; they might explain what the problem is, in general terms, but never offer any insight into how the procedure is going to go, what they are actually going to do inside my mouth.
I've never even had a dentist ask me if I wanted to know.
Is this because most people really don't care or don't want to know? Personally, I find it comforting to have some idea what it is they are going to do to me. Granted, I don't want to watch the needle go in. But other than that, I wouldn't mind watching the dentist with a mirror, just to see what the heck is going on in there!
Today I am STILL wondering why this root canal therapy hurt way more than other ones I've had. I wanted to ask the dentist that question but he hurried out of the room and I didn't get a chance to ask. I would have liked to have known how many canals there were to clean and fill, and why I required so much anaesthetic and why it hurt so much in the middle of the procedure.
Natural_Number - 30 Dec 2005 13:46 GMT Man, another thing some dentists don't like to talk is about costs. I know they can't always give me an exact number, but I like a best case, worst case scenario. I'm really fanatical about knowing how much things cost. What would you do if you went to a resturaunt and ordered a coffee, and they brought you a cup, but the bill was for $100? A dentist could probably do that. It's hard sometimes not to be anti-dentite, but I had to call around before I could find a dentist office that could talk turkey.
However, in respect to my dentist, I've checked him out and he's a good guy. I've asked him questions before, and he'll explain the same thing three times over. His office isn't afraid of giving a price quote either. I do however, wish he would gas me whenever I go to see him.
Dentists! Don't be a gas scrooge! I fear pain.
Ann - 30 Dec 2005 18:28 GMT >But it occured to me that most dentists I've been to never explain the >procedures; they might explain what the problem is, in general terms, >but never offer any insight into how the procedure is going to go, >what they are actually going to do inside my mouth. I think it's because by and large dentists are interested in fixing teeth but don't much care for people.
Ann
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> >>But it occured to me that most dentists I've been to never explain the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Ann Wham_B - 31 Dec 2005 22:43 GMT >nc Vaca ?
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Amatus Cremona - 02 Jan 2006 03:50 GMT >>nc > >Vaca ? Just plain old nut-case.
Tim Dixon - 30 Dec 2005 18:56 GMT "Ann" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message news:fuu2ar1t8aigklgn9unajosulef73mi3l1e@4ax.com...
> I think it's because by and large dentists are interested in fixing > teeth but don't much care for people. I doubt they care much for you sitting in there chairs.
JanD - 30 Dec 2005 19:58 GMT > "Ann" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message > news:fuu2ar1t8aigklgn9unajosulef73mi3l1e@4ax.com... [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I doubt they care much for you sitting in there chairs. That would be *their* not there, Timmy.
Ann - 31 Dec 2005 01:47 GMT >"Ann" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message >news:fuu2ar1t8aigklgn9unajosulef73mi3l1e@4ax.com... [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >I doubt they care much for you sitting in there chairs. Listen to you. You sound like a 5 year old child. My comment was a true belief I have that is borne out of experience of working with and being a patient of doctors. I think it applies to dentists too. You may not have been the patient of any consultants because you may not have been ill, but I have been treated by several. One for example was a skilled occulo plastic surgeon who did a very good job on my face but had the people skills of a gnat. That's fine and just a fact, it's just the way it is. I have also found it to be the same with dentists. Once you realise it, it doesn't much matter. You then know what to expect. But until you do, it can be upsetting.
Ann
Tim Dixon - 31 Dec 2005 02:13 GMT "Ann" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message news:86obr1t38m6fWn6le5a81f4e2ft185utcgb@4ax.com... 2 Oh you really told me didn't you.. you must be from the other side of the pond. We don't do that here.
Ann - 31 Dec 2005 02:28 GMT >"Ann" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message >news:86obr1t38m6fWn6le5a81f4e2ft185utcgb@4ax.com... >2 >Oh you really told me didn't you.. you must be from the other side of the >pond. We don't do that here. What don't you do there? You don't explain yourself well that's for sure.
Tim Dixon - 31 Dec 2005 02:42 GMT >>"Ann" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message >>news:86obr1t38m6fWn6le5a81f4e2ft185utcgb@4ax.com... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > What don't you do there? You don't explain yourself well that's for > sure. Use your imagination.
The Webby - 31 Dec 2005 02:45 GMT > >>"Ann" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message > >>news:86obr1t38m6fWn6le5a81f4e2ft185utcgb@4ax.com... [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Use your imagination. Ann is doing everything possible not to expose "her" imagination. It's best not to encourage imagination around here, you know WIM?
JanD - 31 Dec 2005 03:34 GMT >>"Ann" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message >>news:86obr1t38m6fWn6le5a81f4e2ft185utcgb@4ax.com... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > What don't you do there? You don't explain yourself well that's for > sure. Tim has absolutely NO respect for anyone's problems but his own.
Acts like some selfish brat.
Robert Morien - 31 Dec 2005 09:33 GMT > NO respect for anyone re: Jan loves Tim Dixon Thread Hijacking in progress
Wham_B - 01 Jan 2006 20:04 GMT >>"Ann" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message >>news:86obr1t38m6fWn6le5a81f4e2ft185utcgb@4ax.com... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >What don't you do there? You don't explain yourself well that's for >sure. Have heard that you don't give a good BJ. Must be that mangled plastic face.
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Wham_B - 01 Jan 2006 20:04 GMT >One for example >was a skilled occulo plastic surgeon who did a very good job on my >face Have heard that's debatable. What'd he give you, a paper bag ? Electrolysis for your mustache ?
No wait, he gave you a 'facial'. They have ng's for that type of perversion.
Guess that your teats didn't turn out to be 44 magnums, right ?
That size looks funny on 5'2" girls anyway. Guess you were trying to balance out the size of your fat a.s.
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Ann - 02 Jan 2006 18:19 GMT >>One for example >>was a skilled occulo plastic surgeon who did a very good job on my [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >That size looks funny on 5'2" girls anyway. >Guess you were trying to balance out the size of your fat a.s. It's americans who have fat arses. We in the UK don't eat like pigs as you do. The doc cured the cancer okay so I'm well pleased thank you very much.
Ann
Tim Dixon - 03 Jan 2006 14:12 GMT > It's americans who have fat arses. We in the UK don't eat like pigs > as you do. The doc cured the cancer okay so I'm well pleased thank > you very much. So you've turned this into a pissing match eh?
GO AWAY!
Wham_B - 31 Dec 2005 22:44 GMT >"Ann" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message >news:fuu2ar1t8aigklgn9unajosulef73mi3l1e@4ax.com... [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >I doubt they care much for you sitting in there chairs. ITYM 'their'
Anyway, PITA fee applies.
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Wham_B - 31 Dec 2005 22:38 GMT >>But it occured to me that most dentists I've been to never explain the >>procedures; they might explain what the problem is, in general terms, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Ann Nope, we just don't care much for you a.s, whoops meant Ann...
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Tony Bad - 31 Dec 2005 23:23 GMT > >But it occured to me that most dentists I've been to never explain the > >procedures; they might explain what the problem is, in general terms, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Ann Is it difficult to breath when talking out your a.s? Just curious.
I am willing to bet you made your "by and large" conclusion based on very limited experience.
T
Wham_B - 01 Jan 2006 20:05 GMT >> >But it occured to me that most dentists I've been to never explain the >> >procedures; they might explain what the problem is, in general terms, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Is it difficult to breath when talking out your a.s? Just curious. You forgot the "sh*t eatin' grin".
>I am willing to bet you made your "by and large" conclusion based on very >limited experience. Willing to bet a bottle of Cask 191 ?
>T Ann-al is just a garden variety troll.
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Steven Bornfeld - 30 Dec 2005 19:17 GMT > As I was having my root canal done today, I kept wondering exactly > what it was he was doing to me, and finally, when I got home I looked [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > fill, and why I required so much anaesthetic and why it hurt so much > in the middle of the procedure. The answer to your particular question is hard to give. There could have been problems with the anesthesia of course. Generally though, all things being equal if you sit down in pain the pain control will be more difficult. In general, many dentists don't explain because they're rushed, or they can't be bothered, or patients don't want to know. I think things should be explained to patients, but I sometimes get the impression I explain too much; patients will sometimes hold up their hand and say "You're the doctor; I trust you". I usually get the message by then.
Happy New Year!
Steve
JimSocal - 31 Dec 2005 09:28 GMT > In general, many dentists don't explain because they're rushed, or they >can't be bothered, or patients don't want to know. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Steve I think it may be largely because MOST People don't want to know too much about what the procedure is; maybe it makes them squeamish to think about holes being drilled, gums being cut, etc. etc.
My observation really was just that dentists - more than doctors, it seems to me - generally aren't interested in explaining what they are about to do to the patient's mouth.
I think it is good that you try to explain, and then if they don't want to know more, they let you know and you back off.
What I really hate is when something like this happens: the dental assistant asked me if I wanted to be numbed before the temporary crown was installed. I said, "I have no idea. What is involved with doing it? Is it going to hurt without anaesthesia? I really don't know."
I thought it was a really dumb question.
WHen the doctor came in, though, he didn't ask, he just ordered the anaesthesia to be prepared.
Happy New Year to you, Steve, and to your brother and all the others who post good info here!
Sdores - 31 Dec 2005 13:07 GMT Did you ask? I find that my dr's will answer me if I just ask them, that goes for dr's of all kinds. UM MOM Susan
>> In general, many dentists don't explain because they're rushed, or they >>can't be bothered, or patients don't want to know. [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > Happy New Year to you, Steve, and to your brother and all the others > who post good info here! JimSocal - 31 Dec 2005 20:12 GMT >Did you ask? I find that my dr's will answer me if I just ask them, that >goes for dr's of all kinds. UM MOM Susan Right. But like the other day, I could not ask because I had that rubber dam in my mouth the whole time, and then when I finally got it out, the dentist was on to his next patient and I never got a chance to ask him about it.
I guess next time I'll ask BEFORE he starts...
Wham_B - 01 Jan 2006 20:04 GMT >>Did you ask? I find that my dr's will answer me if I just ask them, that >>goes for dr's of all kinds. UM MOM Susan [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >I guess next time I'll ask BEFORE he starts... I always tell a patient what the RD is, and why it is used *before* placing it.
Just in case that particular patient has not encountered a RD before. Many have, and some haven't. Either way acceptance is not usually an issue.
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Wham_B - 31 Dec 2005 20:15 GMT >But it occured to me that most dentists I've been to never explain the >procedures; they might explain what the problem is, in general terms, >but never offer any insight into how the procedure is going to go, >what they are actually going to do inside my mouth. JimSoDim,
You are sucha PITA that I would charge you extra. Because you would waste my time.
I explain all procedures in advance of treatment. Some want to know, others say 'just fix it'.
Molar Endo for JimSonWeed #30 $1800 IOW go somewhere else.
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JimSocal - 01 Jan 2006 04:58 GMT >>But it occured to me that most dentists I've been to never explain the >>procedures; they might explain what the problem is, in general terms, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >Molar Endo for JimSonWeed #30 $1800 >IOW go somewhere else. Hey, Wham_B: FU You are now killfiled. Bye. Have a nice life.
W_U_B - 01 Jan 2006 20:33 GMT >>>But it occured to me that most dentists I've been to never explain the >>>procedures; they might explain what the problem is, in general terms, [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >You are now killfiled. Bye. >Have a nice life. Kewl.
Thanks JimSoDim.
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