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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / December 2005WHY do all UPPER partial dentures have to be so BIG
All the partial dentures I see for the upper mouth look like 1959 Lincolns. My problem with them is the big upper thing that hits the roof of my mouth like this one: http://www.scrimpshire.com/images/Valplastpartial.jpg Are there any partial dentures for the upper mouth like this one? http://www.dentalimplants-atl.com/images/Copy_of_Partial_Denture.jpg > All the partial dentures I see for the upper mouth look like 1959 > Lincolns. My problem with them is the big upper thing that hits the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > http://www.dentalimplants-atl.com/images/Copy_of_Partial_Denture.jpg How's this? http://www.alphaomegadental.ca/images/dentald_pic2.jpg Steve >> All the partial dentures I see for the upper mouth look like 1959 >> Lincolns. My problem with them is the big upper thing that hits the [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Steve Have made a few of those. Some patients tolerate them fairly well. The major problem with this design is that it can flex, which leads to periodontal stresses and eventual pathology of the abutment teeth. IMO an open palate with a posterior strap is a better design. Have also made the anterior frame with 'loops' . It's half partial and half denture. the advantage is that you can construct a post-dam. It's a wierd bird that one of my instructors (retired USAF prosthodontist) taught me. Have one that has been in service for over 15 yrs without any problems. The key thing is that these are very easy to reline or rebase and are very stable. There has been no periodontal pathology on the remaining teeth. (#'s 6 - 11) Downside is that it covers the palate, and this seems to be this particular dudes chief complaint. / -- Whamatus wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >>>All the partial dentures I see for the upper mouth look like 1959 >>>Lincolns. My problem with them is the big upper thing that hits the [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > which leads to periodontal stresses and eventual > pathology of the abutment teeth. I chose this example just because it looked similarly underdesigned as the PL the OP linked to. I agree a posterior strap would be better in this case. Steve > IMO an open palate with a posterior strap is a better design. > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Whamatus > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > I chose this example just because it looked similarly underdesigned as >the PL the OP linked to. I agree a posterior strap would be better in [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >> IMO an open palate with a posterior strap is a better design. Seems that we are on the same page once again. / -- Whamatus wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >All the partial dentures I see for the upper mouth look like 1959 >Lincolns. My problem with them is the big upper thing that hits the >roof of my mouth like this one: First off you have done a dis-service to all 1959 Lincolns. (though I'm a '57 Caddy man myself) 8^]] >http://www.scrimpshire.com/images/Valplastpartial.jpg A Valplast "partial" is a piss-poor substitute for what is correctly called a Removable Partial Denture (RPD). In fact it is a piss-poor substitute for a Transitional Denture. (one that is designed for the eventual loss of more teeth; i.e transitioning from a partial to full denture) >Are there any partial dentures for the upper mouth like this one? >http://www.dentalimplants-atl.com/images/Copy_of_Partial_Denture.jpg This is an example of a Cast Frame RPD. The prosthetic teeth are denture teeth on a denture base. Alas, this is for a lower. Depending on the number and arrangement of the remaining teeth the RPD cast framework can have many different designs. However the design is limited by the aforementioned 'number and arrangement of the remaining teeth' and which arch we are discussing (upper v. lower). If you can post a picture of your very own RPD perhaps I can suggest a design more suitable to your situation. E-mail is ok too. Don't despair, all is not lost. / -- Whamatus wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Actually, the seond partial denture is like a 1949 Edsel. Basically its a lower so it will not fit the upper. Joel Edsel's did not exist until 1956 or 57. I was trying to say that the upper partials I have tried felt like someone shoved a 1959 Lincoln : http://www.americandreamcars.com/1959continental011503.htm Up my mouth. I hate that big part that hits the roof of the mouth and makes it hard to chew and speak. I wish I could afford implants. >Edsel's did not exist until 1956 or 57. I was trying to say that the >upper partials I have tried felt like someone shoved a 1959 Lincoln : [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Up my mouth. I hate that big part that hits the roof of the mouth and >makes it hard to chew and speak. I wish I could afford implants. I feel for you. I was in a position where my dentist recommended 2 partial plates, and yet he told me outright that many people cannot tolerate them and that it takes a big commitment to learn to get used to them, to speak with them, and so on. Knowing how I HATE any little thing different in my mouth, like when a crown is made ever so slightly wrong, with something sticking out that my tongue rubs against, I chose to go for implants even though I cannot afford them. I just knew that partial plates would drive me nuts. I wonder if you might be able to get one or two implants at a dental school (about $1-2k each) and then use those to bridge some other teeth to...? On the bright side, they say that if you try real hard and make a commitment to the partial plate you CAN get used to it after 6 months or so. If you've already got it you may as well try to get used to it... Good luck! Thought about traveling to COSTA RICA to have implants, Lots of good modern clinics down there. Worse for me was from 1996 to 1999 I paid a dentist close to $20,000 to crown all my teeth, he did not do the uppers correctly and by 2001 problems were appearing , they told me because more than a year had passed to drop dead. I complained to the state dental board but there are no rules or regulations on how long a dentist has to warranty his work. I got a bridge for my lower teeth and loved it. It did take a little time to get used to esp. the metal clips to the teeth but I was a happy camper. I am using past terms as my bridge broke and I haven't been able to get to the dentist do to my crohn's flaring up badly which doesn't allow me to sit in the chair long enough. But it is hopefully in my near future to get my dental work done and a new bridge in place along with getting my upper full denture fitted again. I am again in a bad flare that just started due to a stricture, I got a partial blockage again. I am really getting frustrated about all this already. Any ideas about how I can get to the dentist and get the work done? I have one tooth that needs major care and another that has a small cavity coming up from under the gum line. I do have absorption issues and unfortunately it is hurting the teeth I have left. Just for the record, others on the crohn's site, two of them I go to, along with a friend I have locally also have dental problems do to crohn's or UC. Thanks for any help. UM MOM Susan >>Edsel's did not exist until 1956 or 57. I was trying to say that the >>upper partials I have tried felt like someone shoved a 1959 Lincoln : [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Good luck! |
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