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I Totally Avoided Gum Disease...
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Art Konrad - 17 Dec 2005 04:47 GMT Hi, I am new here, but I see a lot of discussion searching for a solution to gum disease. Thought you would like to hear about my solution. Here is how I wrote about it recently to my friends and relatives:
I have had one tremendous health success recently: my Periodontist who did gum surgery on me over 15 years ago, told me that I should schedule surgery again - I had some deep pockets in the 6's and 7's. I told him I wanted to work on it for a while. I remembered how painful and expensive that surgery was, so I was highly motivated to find a better way. I went on the internet and finally found a product that I can swear by.
I went back to my regular dentist after using it for three months and he said all my numbers were improved, no more 7's. After 3 more months I went back to my Periodontist and he was totally amazed. Besides less deep pockets, he noticed dramatically healthier gums - and amazingly, no bleeding at all. There is always bleeding in normal patients. The whole cleaning procedure involved much less pain for me - and he kept remarking how much more relaxed I was. Periodontist clean much deeper than dentists do, but despite that I felt very little sensitivity. He said if I can keep this up, I should have no surgery in my future at all.
When I told him I searched on the internet until I found a product that made sense to me, he didn't want to believe me. He said it must have been all my hard work, but I knew I didn't work hard at all. I just worked smarter with an intelligent natural product that really works on even my most serious gum disease. This product, OraMD, has my highest recommendation.
Even before trying it, I knew I had the right solution when I read the scientific logic behind it. Here below is what someone in the company sent me that convinced me to try it. Here is the link to the product: http://www.oramd.com?kbid=1705
If you try it please send me an email about your progress: artkonrad@gmail.com,
----------------- Hi Art
Here is the short version of why over 99% of all oral care problems occur: "22 common bacteria".
There it is. Now you know. It's not rocket science and in fact is has been known for a long, long time. So why is it so hard to get this information and why won't the dentists just fess up and tell you? I will leave that for another discussion but you probably know the an$wer.
Here is the full story and how easy it is to over come this problem.
These common 22 bacteria are produced by (humans) 24 hours a day. This is a naturally occurring event and you can not stop it.
Your saliva is your body's natural defense to these bacteria because your saliva is extremely rich in oxygen and certain enzymes that are the natural enemies to the 22 bacteria.
We get many calls a day from customers thinking that age, stomach issues and other things are the cause of the problem. It is not. It is about 22 bacteria and rarely anything else.
The problem is not caused by most of the popular toothpastes and mouthwashes but it is greatly exacerbated by them. Remember, the cause is 22 known bacteria.
Now, the real problem is that prolonged exposure to almost all toothpastes and mouthwashes have two very big problems for our bodies. Firstly, they dry out the mouth and a dry mouth allows these problem bacteria to grow and multiply and a MUCH faster rate. That is why people who sleep with their mouths open have a much higher rate of bad breath and other oral health problems. A dry mouth is bad news.
A chemical in toothpaste (sodium lauryl sulfate) which almost all major brands of toothpaste have in them, is a detergent and over time and prolonged use...drys out the mouth and can affect the mucosal lining of your mouth. You can get the full scientific details in our report "The Hidden Dangers in Toothpaste" at our website: http://www.oramd.com?kbid=1705
The same thing for most mouthwashes. Alcohol and some of the other chemicals used to kill bacteria can also dry out the mouth and can damage the lining of your mouth.
Over time, not only do you produce less saliva which is your natural defense to these bacteria, the oxygen and enzyme levels are greatly decrease thereby allow the bacteria to get a leg up on you.
Slowly but surely the bacteria begins to win the game. It starts with bad breath which is caused by the maturing of these bacteria and they give of what is called Volatile Sulfur Compounds (VSC gases) or bad breath to you and me.
>From there, the bacteria quickly mature further in to toxins. It is these toxins that actually "eat the skin cells of the gums". Yes, your pockets or receding gums is caused by the bacteria turning into toxins and actually eating the soft tissue of your gums leading to bleeding, soreness, tenderness, gingivitis, and in a short period of time...pockets, gum recession and periodontal disease (gum disease).
Enter OraMD. OraMD is completely natural, 100% pure, essential oils of peppermint, spearmint and almond. There are hundreds of varieties of these oils from all over the world and they all have different properties. With this scientific formulation we have matched certain properties of these oils from different parts of the world to get this synegistic formula that is designed to eliminate bacteria and pathogens and give relief from the causes of gum disease, gingivitis, bleeding gums and bad breath.
How Does OraMD Work?
Each drop of OraMD helps clean your teeth, gums and mouth of bacteria causing germs, plaque build up and bad breath by instantly killing the problem causing bacteria on contact... And because OraMD is 100% pure, it deeply penetrates the nooks, crannies, crevices and pockets of your teeth and gums and eliminates the problem bacteria on contact.
The Secret to Success
Now that is just the beginning and here is the real secret to success. Since OraMD is an oil, it does not wash away like the other products. It lingers in those nooks and crannies and pockets and does not allow the bacteria to re-enter those areas so your body can begin to heal all on it's own as it does naturally.
Will my pockets close up and by gums grow back?
You know how you get a paper cut on your finger; and you put a bandaid on it to protect it and keep it clean so the skin will grow back and heal the wound? It is the same with your mouth. If you kill the bacteria and give it a clean environment, you body will usually heal itself. Your body knows it is wounded and is actively generating new skin cells to replace the ones damaged by the toxins. However, the bacteria is eating more skin tissue than your body is producing and you are losing the battle.
Immediately after using OraMD you will have stopped the progression and since OraMD is a natural enemy to all 22 of the problem bacteria, your body will be free to heal itself.
Now you have the full and complete story. It is about 22 known bacteria. A full understanding of the cause allows you to make informed decisions about how to take care of your body so that your body takes care of itself.
Wishing you the best of health Art
Joel - 17 Dec 2005 13:33 GMT Oh Art,
Thank you so much. I told my dentist and he loves your product. Could you please e-mail me the name of your periodontist because I want to thank him too.
Your friend,
Joely
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> Hi, I am new here, but I see a lot of discussion searching for a > solution to gum disease. Thought you would like to hear about my [quoted text clipped - 145 lines] > > Wishing you the best of health Art kureforcrohns@sbcglobal.net - 17 Dec 2005 14:53 GMT Does this mean the oil must remain on the teeth always to work properly. How is it applied. Is flossing still necessary. Joel, is your related post one of your serious moments.
Gail
Joel - 17 Dec 2005 22:16 GMT Of course not!
I did have a serious moment or two ... but it was back in the '60s ......
Art Konrad - 18 Dec 2005 00:46 GMT Hi kureforcro... The oil remains naturally on the teeth for a while. It feels great. You will enjoy the clean feeling. I first brush and/or floss as usual but then use the oil treatment. After about 3 days of use you finally feel what it is like to have a disease free mouth and you can actually tell when your teeth and gums need attention again.
Some "natural" toothpastes have a lingering oil sensation, such as any using Anise oil. Toms of Maine had one called "Gingivitis Toothpaste", but alas, they recently discontinued it. Not enough demand for it. It's a shame, it was a nice addition to my routine and I would have highly recommended that as well. I found another Anise oil toothpaste by Nature's Gate. It is ok, but not as good in my opinion. Anyway, the idea of oil is only part of answer. The other part is getting the right oils that eliminate bacteria.
I don't know why this problem is so hard to solve - why people resort to expensive and painful surgery when what we are talking about is essentially a bacteria problem. We get rid of bacteria problems all the time in other parts of our body. Yet when it comes to the mouth, we seem to loose our common sense and rely on what I have to call barbaric methods.
Perhaps one of the reasons this problem seems so hard to solve is this: In a way the gums are like an open wound in which you wash food several times a day and naturally bacteria grows there. Without some positive anti-bacterial helpers that you use daily, why would you expect your gums to remain healthy?
I am aware of other "helpers" - products that can be used in your arsenal against gum disease. Are there any other serious people here that would like to hear about these?
Is this a group serious about solving problems?
Whamatus - 18 Dec 2005 01:10 GMT >Is this a group serious about solving problems? This group is serious about reporting spammers. / -- Whamatus wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Whamatus - 18 Dec 2005 01:17 GMT > In a way the gums are like an open wound in which you wash food >several times a day and naturally bacteria grows there. Much like that open wound under your nose ?
/ -- Whamatus wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
kureforcrohns@sbcglobal.net - 18 Dec 2005 01:28 GMT Art Konrad,
If you are puzzled as to why your message was rejected, it is because soliciting anything for sale here is considered spam in all cases.. It is mostly a forum for free advice to people needing dental advice. You may be better accepted on other newsgroups. sci.med. misc.health.alternative. etc. Your product seems to have merit, and I wish you luck. Gail Michael
> Hi kureforcro... The oil remains naturally on the teeth for a while. > It feels great. You will enjoy the clean feeling. I first brush [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Is this a group serious about solving problems? Art Konrad - 27 Dec 2005 06:45 GMT Thank you Gail Michael for this interesting information. So what we have here are stanch defenders of the expensive and painful way of treating gum disease and someone who successfully overcame it with a few simple inexpensive oils is not welcomed here? Sad!
I was intrigued by your question about the idea of oil lingering on the teeth. I know it sounds a like a strange idea, so that is why I answered about how herbal toothpastes were already using this approach with pleasant tasting lingering oils like anise oil or the more mild fennel oil.
However, there is much more to the story. In fact I think dental (and medical) researchers are missing tremendous opportunities by failing to appreciate how valuable certain oils can be for healing. This point was brought home in the last few years to the National Institutes of Health, which is the primary Federal agency for funding medical research:
An Ayurvedic procedure you may have heard of called Pancha Karma, involves several oil based treatments applied internally and externally. In a remarkable demonstration Ayurvedic Technicians were able to remove 50% of the PCB's and DDT's in the bodies of all their test subjects. This got the attention of NIH because no one has demonstrated that before. Of course modern medicine knows how to use chelation therapy to remove heavy metals, but it doesn't work on PCB or DDT. (We all have DDT in our systems now because of NAFTA - we're all eating much more Mexican grown fruits and vegetables without even knowing it, and their laws allow use of DDT.)
The abstract on this research can be seen here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=1 2233802&dopt=Abstract
I have the 12 page report in PDF and can send it or perhaps post it here if you are interested. Contact me by email if you would like me to send it to you.
Basically, our bodies store toxins in the lipids - fatty tissues. It seems that an oil based removal system works best for cleansing an oil based storage system. This is just one of the useful features of some oils, properly applied.
Now this brings me to another point I was actually hoping to discuss with dental and medical professionals: in my experience there are usually two aspects to healing. The first is fighting the pathogens and the other is providing a soothing and nourishing environment for healing and re-growth. I discovered this principle years ago when I was dealing with a sore throat and I had two recommended remedies: a Naturalpath said gargle with Hydrogen Peroxide mixed 50/50 with water; Ayurveda said gargle with oil, sesame oil preferred.
I found that the Hydrogen Peroxide left my throat so dry, scratchy and irritated. It was so highly touted for its ability to kill germs, so I "knew" it was good for me. It just didn't feel good, in fact it felt worst. This of course would keep anyone from using the remedy as often or as long as they should to be effective. (I discovered later that more extreme use of Hydrogen Peroxide develops a phenomena called Harry Tongue, a basically harmless condition but nevertheless scary. I believe relying on Peroxide alone for any problem, including gum disease, is not a good idea.)
I found my own solution to this problem when I turned to the sesame oil: soothing and relaxing, leaving a kind of protective coating on that previously dry and irritated area. So my home remedy for sore throats is to gargle with Hydrogen Peroxide followed a few minutes later with a gargle of sesame oil or olive oil (olive considered very good by Ayurveda, but second best).
Now with the oils used to fight gingivitis in OraMD and other similar products, you have both properties built into each oil: germ fighting and soothing, comforting and protecting.
There are other gum disease fighting products that use Eucalyptus oil or Tea Tree oil or Oregano oil for their antibacterial qualities. OraMD uses essential oils of certain types of Peppermint, Spearmint and Almond. I am sure that there are many other possibilities. The key, I believe, is to find the right combination that fights the pathogens and yet sooths and protects.
I think the dental (and medical) professions may be missing the boat here. They could be developing numerous essential oil products that comfortably solve not only gum disease but a host of other oral problems like laryngitis and throat infections, bad breath, sinus infections, canker sores. I believe that a well designed product could be shown to neutralize the bad affects of sugar in the mouth almost instantly. Any soothing product that fights pathogens will also be seen as an aid to fighting colds and flu, since the main pathways for those germs are the mouth and nose. Anyone who has used essential oils knows that they are powerful. They are often viewed as nature's first medicines. They could become "new medicines" if designed in the right combinations.
Well I hope this is a more satisfactory answer. Is anyone here interested in future discussion along these lines?
Steven Bornfeld - 18 Dec 2005 01:36 GMT > Hi kureforcro... The oil remains naturally on the teeth for a while. > It feels great. You will enjoy the clean feeling. I first brush [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > resort to expensive and painful surgery when what we are talking about > is essentially a bacteria problem. Essentially, if you are claiming a medical benefit, you will have to show safety and effectiveness. The FDA might be interested too.
Steve
We get rid of bacteria problems all
> the time in other parts of our body. Yet when it comes to the mouth, > we seem to loose our common sense and rely on what I have to call [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Is this a group serious about solving problems? Whamatus - 18 Dec 2005 03:47 GMT >> I don't know why this problem is so hard to solve - why people >> resort to expensive and painful surgery when what we are talking about [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Steve Well, you know how those ganja-herb dudes are. No regulation, no need to show efficacy, no quality control, no need to show safety.
It's all about the dinero.
Sadly the FDA does not regulate 'supplements'. They should.
Not to mention this dork doesn't have the first clue about periodontal disease.
Q. How does a mouthwash or toothpaste remove years of concretions ?
A. No ingredient that could would be safe to use. IOW It can't.
/ -- Whamatus wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Steven Bornfeld - 18 Dec 2005 18:28 GMT >>>I don't know why this problem is so hard to solve - why people >>>resort to expensive and painful surgery when what we are talking about [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > No regulation, no need to show efficacy, no quality > control, no need to show safety. Even the baldness remedies advertise that they aren't intended to diagnose or treat any disease. OTOH, this guy undermines any claim to be a nutritional supplement by saying explicitly that periodontal disease is a bacterial "condition", and that it is a substitute for periodontal surgery. In my mind, that is a medical claim.
Steve
> It's all about the dinero. > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Whamatus > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Whamatus - 18 Dec 2005 18:37 GMT >>> Essentially, if you are claiming a medical benefit, you will have to >>>show safety and effectiveness. The FDA might be interested too. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >Steve Agree but don't think that anything will come of it.
BTW I rarely do perio surgery myself. IMO the only reason to to reflect a flap is to visualize residual calculus that may be left after SC&RP. If the pocket doesn't resolve then there is usually calculus left on the root. / -- Whamatus wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Whamatus - 17 Dec 2005 15:17 GMT >Hi, I am new here, but I see a lot of discussion searching for a >solution to gum disease. Thought you would like to hear about my >solution. Hi Konrad,
Was so impressed with your story that I forwarded copies to:
abuse@godaddy.com ( oramd host ) abuse@gmail.com groups-abuse@google.com / --
Whamatus Bemoana wubbabubbazG@RBAGE at yahoo dot com
Vaughn - 17 Dec 2005 15:52 GMT > Hi, I am new here, Hello yourself Art, welcome to the group! Well, since you are here Art, let's talk about spammers. Art, I think that spammers are lower than pond scum. What do you think about spammers Art?
Vaughn
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