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Ping "Sue" you asked about Iatrogenic disease

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The Webby - 11 Dec 2005 19:34 GMT
So tell us, Sue.  Did you find out what "iatrogenic disease" is?  
(Notice, no copying and pasting.  Just a legitimate question based upon
something I read in another forum.)

The Webby
Sue - 11 Dec 2005 19:44 GMT
> So tell us, Sue.  Did you find out what "iatrogenic disease" is?
> (Notice, no copying and pasting.  Just a legitimate question based upon
> something I read in another forum.)
>
> The Webby

Yes.  I looked it up.

In the context of that discussion, I interpret "iatragenic" to mean
this problem (or "disease") was caused by the profession. Therefore the
"profession" should be responsible for fixing the problem.

The internet is a wonderful resource.  

-Sue
The Webby - 11 Dec 2005 19:57 GMT
> > So tell us, Sue.  Did you find out what "iatrogenic disease" is?
> > (Notice, no copying and pasting.  Just a legitimate question based upon
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>
> -Sue

Are you certain you have that entirely correct?  (Spelling is a little
off, but that isn't what I'm referring to.)

The Webby
Sue - 11 Dec 2005 20:13 GMT
> > > So tell us, Sue.  Did you find out what "iatrogenic disease" is?
> > > (Notice, no copying and pasting.  Just a legitimate question based upon
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> Are you certain you have that entirely correct?  (Spelling is a little
> off, but that isn't what I'm referring to.)

> The Webby

Excuse me.  "Iatrogenic"

That is how I interpreted Joel's comment.  You ask am I certain?  Am I
ever certain about completely understanding someone else's
communications?

No.   Are you?

Nothing is 100% certain, IMHO ....except death.

That is why I asked Joel to explain.

Now please excuse me, I really need to do some stuff here.

Have a great Sunday.

Sincerely,
-Sue
The Webby - 11 Dec 2005 20:33 GMT
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> Am I ever certain about completely understanding someone else's
> communications?
>
> No.   Are you?

I prefer to look at communications differently and I prefer to limit the
scope to usenet communications *only*.

It takes a lot of work between people, one on one or within a group
large or small, to arrive at a point of mutual understanding in order to
come to a point of accepting others for who they are.  

As far as our communications are concerned here in sci.med.dentistry (a
specific Usenet newsgroup), I don't think you are willing to go the
distance required in order to understand the ways of this group of
posters as a group or as individuals.  

I have my own style and I can recognize a careless and lazy copycat when
I see one.  Am I pointing my cyber-finger at you?  You tell me.

The Webby
The Webby - 11 Dec 2005 21:17 GMT
In article
<tmjiatroepidemic-F68BA4.12330611122005@news-lb-01.socal.rr.com>,

> [cut]
>
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>
> The Webby

Once upon a time in sci.med.dentistry,

"Sue" <chrlie699@yahoo.com> wrote:
"I work for a medical device company (mainly implantables)."

... and

"Sue" <chrlie699@yahoo.com> wrote:
"I have written many scientific abstracts and co-authored many
scientific manuscripts."

And in reply to my question, Did you find out what "iatrogenic disease"
is?, "Sue" <chrlie699@yahoo.com> wrote:

"In the context of that discussion, I interpret "iatragenic" to mean
this problem (or "disease") was caused by the profession. Therefore the
"profession" should be responsible for fixing the problem.

The internet is a wonderful resource."  

___________ end of quoting ______________

This is enough for me to rest my case.

The Webby
Tim Dixon - 11 Dec 2005 21:33 GMT
> In article
> <tmjiatroepidemic-F68BA4.12330611122005@news-lb-01.socal.rr.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> "I have written many scientific abstracts and co-authored many
> scientific manuscripts."

Perhaps sue or chrlie or claire or whoever the person is would cite just one
abstract or scientific manuscript.. otherwise i say you are full of sheep
dip, that is what you do right? or did you forget about that too?
Sue - 11 Dec 2005 22:11 GMT
> > In article
> > <tmjiatroepidemic-F68BA4.12330611122005@news-lb-01.socal.rr.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
> abstract or scientific manuscript.. otherwise i say you are full of sheep
> dip, that is what you do right? or did you forget about that too?

Ummm...ok.... but titles only.  I really do not want to get any
threatening emails or crap from a bunch of cyber nutcases.

I am running off to orchestra hall right now.  My husband and I will be
listening to Hendel's Messiah. Oh and Amatus, he is not wearing a
tux......   We go there for the music, not to show off our digs.

Ta ta ta

-Sue

PS You may lower your arms now,,,,,,  And please wear some deodorant
next time you raise them...PHE-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-W-ey!
Tim Dixon - 11 Dec 2005 22:38 GMT
>> > "Sue" <chrlie699@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > "I have written many scientific abstracts and co-authored many
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> Ummm...ok.... but titles only.  I really do not want to get any
> threatening emails or crap from a bunch of cyber nutcases.

Post authors, dates, publication they appear in, etc.  Or I say you are a
liar.
Sue - 13 Dec 2005 03:37 GMT
> >> > "Sue" <chrlie699@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> > "I have written many scientific abstracts and co-authored many
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Post authors, dates, publication they appear in, etc.  Or I say you are a
> liar.

I forgot about this request (demand?)  These were the quickest ones for
me to pull up from my files:

"Effect of Cardiac Resynchronization Therapy on Tumor Necrosis
Factor-alpha in Heart Failure Patients and Influence of B-receptor
Blockers" Presented NASPE 2003 (Heart Rhythm Society)

"Plasma Neurohormonal Changes in Response to Caridac Resynchronization
Therapy in Patients with Congestive Heart Failure" Presented ACC 2003

"Plasma Atrial Natriuretic Peptide and B-Type Natriuretic Peptide
Reductions WIth Resyncronization Therapy and Reverse Ventricular
Remodeling"  Presented S&T 2004

Whatever. I really don't care what you think anymore Tim.  Get a life
that does not include verbal abuse directed at me.

Thank you,

-Sue
Tim Dixon - 11 Dec 2005 22:40 GMT
> Ummm...ok....  cyber nutcases.

"Sue" <chrlie699@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1127322420.607032.93190@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> To all:  Sorry I have been so touchy.  A lot of my stuff was deleted at
> DT and I was never sure why. The only thing I can think of is that they
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>
> Sue
Amatus Cremona - 12 Dec 2005 23:32 GMT
> I am running off to orchestra hall right now.  My husband and I will be
> listening to Handel's Messiah. Oh and Amatus, he is not wearing a
> tux......   We go there for the music, not to show off our digs.

Opening night of the Opera is a formal night.  You are expected to wear a
tux (formal gown for the ladies) to sit in the Director's Circle and attend
the pre-performance benefit dinner.  Symphonic concerts only require a coat
and tie (except for the first concert of the season).  Now, the musicians
all wear a tuxedo (or black dress).  The Messiah piece is very nice if the
Choral group is large enough and very talented.  I still prefer Carmina
Burana.

Signature

/

Amatus

/

>
>> > In article
[quoted text clipped - 57 lines]
> PS You may lower your arms now,,,,,,  And please wear some deodorant
> next time you raise them...PHE-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-W-ey!
Sue - 11 Dec 2005 22:27 GMT
> In article
> <tmjiatroepidemic-F68BA4.12330611122005@news-lb-01.socal.rr.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 44 lines]
>
> ___________ end of quoting ______________

> This is enough for me to rest my case.
>
> The Webby

Webby,

Excuse me but you never had a case.  

-Sue
The Webby - 11 Dec 2005 22:29 GMT
> > In article
> > <tmjiatroepidemic-F68BA4.12330611122005@news-lb-01.socal.rr.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 54 lines]
>
> -Sue

You are entitled to your opinion.

The Webby
Whamatus - 12 Dec 2005 17:56 GMT
>Nothing is 100% certain, IMHO ....except death.

What about taxes ?
--

Whamatus
Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Sue - 12 Dec 2005 18:40 GMT
> >Nothing is 100% certain, IMHO ....except death.
>
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> Take out the G'RBAGE
> wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com

I guess you might include taxes...but that is less certain in my mind.

-Sue
 
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