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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / December 2005Who is responsible for payment?
Should the dentist pay? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi there, I had four porcelain veneers fitted at the front of my mouth 12 months ago. I went to the same dentist today for a check up and they tell me there is too much excess cement in between the veneers meaning I cannot floss. This has resulted in bleeding gums and potentially gum disease and receeding gums. They say they have to remove the cement which may dislodge the veneers and in which case I would have to pay to have new ones fitted as they are not under guarantee. But surely this is their fault in the first place and I should not have to pay? Also, whilst cleaning the dentist chipped a veneer which means this one will have to be replaced now - again, they say, at my cost. Should I really have to pay?! Would really appreciate some advice here, as I can't help thinking this is all very unfair. Thanks, ClaireC are you sue? claire? or someone named chrlie? > Should the dentist pay? > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Would really appreciate some advice here, as I can't help thinking this > is all very unfair. Thanks, ClaireC > are you sue? claire? or someone named chrlie? > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Would really appreciate some advice here, as I can't help thinking this > > is all very unfair. Thanks, ClaireC I am Sue. Someone posted this on Dentalcom.net. I am very interested in hearing dentists' opinions on this. -Sue >> are you sue? claire? or someone named chrlie? >> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > I am Sue. Someone posted this on Dentalcom.net. I am very interested > in hearing dentists' opinions on this. Why don't you let them post their own questions instead of hijacking their post like a common thief. > I am Sue. Someone posted this on Dentalcom.net. I am very interested > in hearing dentists' opinions on this. And if you are really interested ask the question, but quit hijacking and cross-posting other peoples writings. > Should the dentist pay? > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Would really appreciate some advice here, as I can't help thinking this > is all very unfair. Thanks, ClaireC If the veneers are broken by attempting to remove excess bonding material, IMO this is definitely the dentist's responsibility. How can he/she say otherwise? How can charging the patient be rationalized? Steve  SignatureMark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 > If the veneers are broken by attempting to remove excess bonding > material, IMO this is definitely the dentist's responsibility. How can > he/she say otherwise? How can charging the patient be rationalized? > > Steve As usual, I agree with Steve...if the problem is related to something that should have been addressed from day one, it certainly seems like the problem is one the dentist made and should therefore take care of. I am guessing this doctor hasn't taken any risk management seminars lately!! T >> If the veneers are broken by attempting to remove excess bonding >> material, IMO this is definitely the dentist's responsibility. How can [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >T I'm no expert, but I know if I were the patient in this case, I would demand the dentist pay to make it right, and if he refused I'd sue, in small claims court, if nothing else. > >> If the veneers are broken by attempting to remove excess bonding > >> material, IMO this is definitely the dentist's responsibility. How can [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > demand the dentist pay to make it right, and if he refused I'd sue, in > small claims court, if nothing else. Thanks all for the input. To Tom Dixon, it takes too much time to recompose the Q and/or try to get Claire to come over here. Since Claire posted her question on an OPEN forum... HIGHLY open.... WORLD WIDE open on the INTERNET, a fourm that has GOOGLE spiders broadcating this information all ove rthe internet, I highly doubt that Claire will mind. I posted the link to SMD for her, should she want to come over here to check for answers. -Sue -Sue >> >> If the veneers are broken by attempting to remove excess bonding >> >> material, IMO this is definitely the dentist's responsibility. How [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > -Sue > -Sue Its Tim Dixon, not Tom. Thats not the point. We don't like posts from other places ending up here. Get it? You go play over there and we'll play over here, Get it? Quit being a burglar and either come up with your own topics or get out of town, Get it? > >> >> If the veneers are broken by attempting to remove excess bonding > >> >> material, IMO this is definitely the dentist's responsibility. How [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > Quit being a burglar and either come up with your own topics or get out of > town, Get it? Tim, Who is "we?" Dr. Bornfeld, TonyBad and Jimsocal don't seem to mind. Why are you so selfish about sharing your knowledge? -Sue >> Its Tim Dixon, not Tom. Thats not the point. We don't like posts from >> other places ending up here. Get it? You go play over there and we'll [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Why are you so selfish about sharing your knowledge? Why are you selfish about stealing other peoples posts? This is sci.med.dentistry, not some web based, google groups, yada yada yada.. get it? > >> Its Tim Dixon, not Tom. Thats not the point. We don't like posts from > >> other places ending up here. Get it? You go play over there and we'll [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > This is sci.med.dentistry, not some web based, google groups, yada yada > yada.. get it? Tim, No I do not get it. This post was posted on a dental forum that check into daily. There were no answers other than my input. I was intersted in hearing what dentists had to say abouyt this case. I also directed the poster to this forum, but apparently this poster has not come over here. What the heck is your problem with that? Is it so diffuclt to comprehend that this information is useful to others, no matter who posts the question? -Sue > What the heck is your problem with that? Aren't you the same Sue who gratuitously called me a liar a few weeks ago? If so, go away! Vaughn >> What the heck is your problem with that? > > Aren't you the same Sue who gratuitously called me a liar a few weeks ago? >If so, go away! > >Vaughn It's the same one, back to the KF. -- Whamatus Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > > What the heck is your problem with that? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > The title of Liar might go to many an individual who has crossed the streets of smd ... but I *can't imagine* Vaughn ever earning the distinction. So, Sue, as I wrote elsewhere, it's up to you to get yourself out of the dog-house with this group. How you'll manage that is beyond me; it's in your hands to figure a way. If you want to participate here because you care about people ... it wouldn't hurt much of anything to begin by initiating a caring attitude toward the regular participants here. Until you can see these posters as people with real lives ... you ought to be more careful who you disrespect. The Webby > If you want to > participate here because you care about people ... it wouldn't hurt much > of anything to begin by initiating a caring attitude toward the regular > participants here. Until you can see these posters as people with real > lives ... you ought to be more careful who you disrespect. Too many Joel lessons taken by "Sue" Signature/ Amatus / > >> > What the heck is your problem with that? [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > The Webby >> >> Its Tim Dixon, not Tom. Thats not the point. We don't like posts >> >> from [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > -Sue Oh please, what are you some kind of dental groupie? Why in the world would you be interested in what dentists have to say about that post. You have been warned of this in the past and yet you continue to drag junk into here from who knows where. Go back to where you came from. > Why are you so selfish about sharing your knowledge? Hey Spud, It is not about sharing or not sharing knowledge. It is about pasting people's postings to other forums without their permission and their knowledge of what will result from that pasting. Go to the other keyboard and ask Joel. Signature/ Amatus / > >> >> >> If the veneers are broken by attempting to remove excess bonding [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > > -Sue >> I posted the link to SMD for her, should she want to come over here to >> check for answers. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >other places ending up here. Get it? You go play over there and we'll play >over here, Get it? TomTom, errr I mean Tim <hehe> Think that most of the regs have KF'd SueSue. You'll notice there are very few responses to her posts. You may want to consider doing the same. -- Whamatus Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > I posted the link to SMD for her, should she want to come over here to > check for answers. Who are you to bring her question here if she doesn't want to? Oh wait i remember something like; A lot of my stuff was deleted and it really wierded me out and as i was getting paranoid it made me feel crazy. I was really dense but i was never sure why. I have been so touchy not to figure out what i was saying. It made me feel crazy and i was getting paranoid. My stuff was deleted and it really weirded me out. The only thing i can think of is making me paranoid. I am really weirded out. Dear Spud, When you paste people's postings to other forums, you increase the opportunity for some bot to Spam their email address, you increase the different bots which will harvest the posting to additional sites, and increase the likelihood that the postings will be taken out of context and misunderstood. Then, if you paraphrase responses given to that pasted message and post that, the likelihood of distorting the intended advice increase exponentially. Not to mention the fact that the OP may just not want their posting spread further on the internet intentionally. Do you have any idea how many lurkers are out there who function at the same level as SWNMNBM ? They will take this stuff and add it to their own sorry emitis of posting somewhere else. Now, all of a sudden, the original post looks as if it is supporting some mercury mixed with gutta percha toxin argument. Besides, no one believes your background story. Signature/ Amatus / > >> >> If the veneers are broken by attempting to remove excess bonding [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > -Sue > -Sue Hey Claire, how were the tissues before the work was done? Signature""""" Philip Atooth {Tooth mechanic extraordinaire} """" > Should the dentist pay? > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Would really appreciate some advice here, as I can't help thinking this > is all very unfair. Thanks, ClaireC |
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