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What is a fair compensation for an associate dentist?

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ca-dds - 27 Nov 2005 09:40 GMT
I live in LA and I am tired of some con-artists with DDS degrees
have been working for

All they want is to make money for them and they would pay you a
little as possible ( 500-600-750/day

I am a very skilled dentist and I feel like I am being taken advantag
off when I am told: OK you produce 8000/day for me , I'll give yo
800

I hear in other states you can make 1000/day easily as an associate

They would give you a base of 300-400-450 and maybe 5 % of productio
, so no matter how much you make for them , you cannot go over 80
for you in a good day

Or they give you 20 % of production , but you have to do their nast
HMO work for free , so they could get countless capitation checks

It looks like robbery to me

Also it seems that some horrendous HMO corporations are spreading lik
cancer through California - the quality of dentistry is horrible , th
dentists are underpaid and overworked
What those companies want you to do is over diagnosing and cheating
on the patients and make tons of money for them , they do not car
about you or about the patients at all

They squeeze you like a lemon

Dentists working as associates ( slaves ), stop selling yourself s
cheap and open your own practice

Stop getting robbed by DDS or DMD con-artists

I read that it would be fair for the associate dentist to get 35% o
production; it does not happen in Los Angeles

 Any opinions
George Chatzipetros - 27 Nov 2005 10:29 GMT
Whoa! Deja vu!
Haven't we already done this before?

George
Bill - 28 Nov 2005 01:57 GMT
> Whoa! Deja vu!
> Haven't we already done this before?
>
> George
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You sure got that right, George!

http://tinyurl.com/db85x

It has been two months, and I wonder if this guy ever read the
responses. Maybe he's a web bot, or something.

- dentaldoc
Stovepipe - 27 Nov 2005 17:31 GMT
> I live in LA and I am tired of some con-artists with DDS degrees Ihave
been working for.All they want is to make money for them and they would
pay you aslittle as possible ( 500-600-750/day)I am a very skilled
dentist and I feel like I am being taken advantageof

I'd cart my financial pedigree off to see a CPA who knows the dental
markets in my market niche and geographical area. I don't really see any
other way.

HTH
SP

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Joel M. Eichen - 28 Nov 2005 03:45 GMT
In the bad old days, a "DOCTOR" would only earn fees from his own
efforts of treating his own patients ....... the monies charged by
associates, or dental hygienists were designed to reduce overhead (and
benefit patients) not become a profit center for the old geezer.

Joel

>> I live in LA and I am tired of some con-artists with DDS degrees Ihave
>been working for.All they want is to make money for them and they would
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>HTH
>SP
Amatus Cremona - 28 Nov 2005 13:31 GMT
> In the bad old days, a "DOCTOR" would only earn fees from his own
> efforts of treating his own patients ....... the monies charged by
> associates, or dental hygienists were designed to reduce overhead (and
> benefit patients) not become a profit center for the old geezer.

So, how many young dentists do you have working for you at the new implant
clinic ?

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> In the bad old days, a "DOCTOR" would only earn fees from his own
> efforts of treating his own patients ....... the monies charged by
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>>HTH
>>SP
Penny - 29 Nov 2005 09:40 GMT
> Stovepipewrote
ca-dds <obarbu@aol-dot-com.no-spam.invalid> wrote

> I live in LA and I am tired of some con-artists with DDS degree
Ihav
> been working for.All they want is to make money for them and the
woul
pay you aslittle as possible ( 500-600-750/day)I am a very skille
dentist and I feel like I am being taken advantageo

I'd cart my financial pedigree off to see a CPA who knows the denta
markets in my market niche and geographical area. I don't really se
an
other way

Offer some advise that is not so "emotional" possibly. Then use it o
yourself maybe

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Stovepipe - 30 Nov 2005 05:04 GMT
> Offer some advise that is not so "emotional" possibly. Then use it
onyourself maybe.HTHSP-- Take out the TRAASH to reply[/quote:9c154be9ac]

Fair enough.... Learn how to post to UseNet yourself and maybe your own
posts would be taken more seriously.

'Sides: I like to know where is the emotional part about telling the OP
in this thread to take his financial argument to an impartial but saavy
CPA. Who else could tell him if he could do better?
Cheers
SP
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Tony Bad - 28 Nov 2005 02:35 GMT
> I live in LA and I am tired of some con-artists with DDS degrees I
> have been working for.
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>   Any opinions ?

My opinion is you seem to have memory problems...you asked this same stupid
question a month or two ago. If you are too stupid to remember that, you
probably aren't worth what you think.

T
El Parador - 08 Dec 2005 20:31 GMT
> I read that it would be fair for the associate dentist to get 35% of
> production; it does not happen in Los Angeles.

Over here, it's standard to get 50% of production. I have an interesting
deal which gets me 50% and 100% of all extractions (no, I do not take
advantage of this).

But as far as I heard of the fees in America, it's normal. I heard of a
story of a Flemish patient who was insured in America for 1000$ a year.
He had a great mouth and year after year no cavities. The only action
taken was calculus removal. Price: 1000 $. For 20 minutes work... We can
only ask +/- 50$.

So if you get paid 10% of this you still earn 4X more than me. I earn
some 400-500$ a day. I guess everything is more expensive in America...
 
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