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Tufts University School of Dental Medicine Student Dental Clinic

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don warner saklad - 15 Nov 2005 21:26 GMT
a.
What are the infection rates, what are the statistics, where are the
reports available for the Student Dental Clinic at Tufts University
School of Dental Medicine
http://www.tufts.edu/dental/patient/index.html

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b.
What are the infection rates, what are the statistics, where are the
reports available for your favorite Dental Schools clinics?...

stoptheinfections.org advocates that information be made available
http://stoptheinfections.org

   Health / Science
   The Boston Globe

   WHITE COAT NOTES
   Are health workers' hands clean? Go ahead and ask

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/health_science/articles/2005/11/07/are_health_w
orkers_hands_clean_go_ahead_and_ask/


   November 7, 2005
     Doctors and nurses who fail to wash their hands at
   Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center may hear about it from
   their patients.

   The hospital is adopting an unusual method to improve hand
   washing and cut down on dangerous infections among its
   patients.

   Starting today, nurses will review the importance of hand
   washing with all patients when they're admitted and tell them
   they should question their health-care workers about whether
   they've washed their hands before touching them.

   Staff will wear buttons declaring ''Go Ahead and Ask."

     Beth Israel Deaconess executives said other hospitals that
   involve patients have increased hand washing by 35 to 60
   percent.

   Executives at the Harvard Medical School teaching hospital
   will send empty soap and disinfectant containers to an
   outside firm that will analyze how much soap is used during
   specific time periods to determine if the program has
   increased hand washing.

   The hospital warns health-care workers to prepare themselves
   for questions.

   If a patient catches them with soiled hands, a hospital
   power-point presentation recommends a non-defensive response:
   ''Thank you for reminding me; I will do that now."
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/health_science/articles/2005/11/07/are_health_w
orkers_hands_clean_go_ahead_and_ask/

Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 15 Nov 2005 22:02 GMT
> a.
> What are the infection rates, what are the statistics, where are the
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> What are the infection rates, what are the statistics, where are the
> reports available for your favorite Dental Schools clinics?...

    Except for the exceptional cases like Kimberly Bergalis/David Acer, the
occasional transmission of Hep B, and the pretty much theoretical
transmission of legionella in contaminated water lines, what kind of
infections are we talking about here?
    The problem is that on an out-patient basis, statistics on
cross-infection are very hard to gather--where they are gathered at all.
    How do you suppose this could be done in a dental setting?

Steve

> stoptheinfections.org advocates that information be made available
> http://stoptheinfections.org
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>     ''Thank you for reminding me; I will do that now."
> http://www.boston.com/news/globe/health_science/articles/2005/11/07/are_health_w
orkers_hands_clean_go_ahead_and_ask/

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Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001

The Webby - 15 Nov 2005 22:07 GMT
I spent a few days visiting my mother who is hospitalized now and the
floor corridor has dispensers of antibacterial waterless lotion/soap
outside of each room.  In the patient bathrooms and public bathrooms,
there is liquid soap intended to be used with running water.  

A patient in that ward wouldn't know if a nurse of doctor washed their
hands with the lotion.  There aren't any sinks in the patient's bed area
of the rooms.

TW

> > a.
> > What are the infection rates, what are the statistics, where are the
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> > http://www.boston.com/news/globe/health_science/articles/2005/11/07/are_heal
> > th_workers_hands_clean_go_ahead_and_ask/
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 15 Nov 2005 22:17 GMT
> I spent a few days visiting my mother who is hospitalized now and the
> floor corridor has dispensers of antibacterial waterless lotion/soap
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> TW

    We've had patients who work for the city department of health as
restaurant inspectors.  Some of them say that if I saw what they did I'd
never eat in a restaurant again.
    Nosocomial infections have always been a big problem, and I don't doubt
that they are a problem in the dental setting as well.  I just don't
know what could be done to actively police proper infection control
policies.  Seems to me that even the most easily documented (such as
submission of autoclave spore tests) would be very difficult to accomplish.

Steve

>>>a.
>>>What are the infection rates, what are the statistics, where are the
[quoted text clipped - 64 lines]
>>>http://www.boston.com/news/globe/health_science/articles/2005/11/07/are_heal
>>>th_workers_hands_clean_go_ahead_and_ask/

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http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001

don warner saklad - 15 Nov 2005 22:23 GMT
Thank you Mark Bornfeld !  Thank you Steven Bornfeld !

Good question! Would you have any other ideas regarding that point or
related ideas?

At the Student Dental Clinic of Tufts University School of Dental
Medicine the instructing dentists move from one patient to another
patient and back and forth again not washing between patients.

> Mark & Steven Bornfeld
>
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> Brooklyn, NY
> 718-258-5001
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 16 Nov 2005 15:11 GMT
> Thank you Mark Bornfeld !  Thank you Steven Bornfeld !
>
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> Medicine the instructing dentists move from one patient to another
> patient and back and forth again not washing between patients.

    That's OK--if they don't touch the patients!

Steve

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http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001

W_B - 16 Nov 2005 16:16 GMT
>> At the Student Dental Clinic of Tufts University School of Dental
>> Medicine the instructing dentists move from one patient to another
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>
>Steve

Or any of the instrumentation.

Changing gloves perhaps ?
--

W_B
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don warner saklad - 15 Nov 2005 22:27 GMT
The correct link is http://stophospitalinfections.org
 
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