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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / November 2005Tooth implant
After I get my tooth extracted I have to have either a bridge or tooth implant. Why doesn't insurance cover tooth implants? What should I expect with a tooth implant? Are there problems that might arise from such a procedure? Thank > Why doesn't insurance cover tooth implants? What should I expect > with a tooth implant? Are there problems that might arise from such a > procedure? 1) What is covered and what is not covered is determined solely by the contract signed by the employer (or trade union, business association, etc.). It is determined by the amount of premium they are willing to pay. Anything can be a covered benefit at any level of reimbursement if the group is willing to pay for the premium. 2) With an implant, expect to pay at least $3K for one tooth (total treatment from surgeon and dentist). Expect good function on the tooth when done. 3) Problems which could arise are the same ones that could arise from any minor dental surgery and restoration. Nothing unusual. These are no big deal.  Signature/ Amatus / > After I get my tooth extracted I have to have either a bridge or tooth > implant. Why doesn't insurance cover tooth implants? What should I expect > with a tooth implant? Are there problems that might arise from such a > procedure? > Thank >After I get my tooth extracted I have to have either a bridge or tooth >implant. Why doesn't insurance cover tooth implants? What should I expect >with a tooth implant? Are there problems that might arise from such a >procedure? >Thank If you can afford it, get the implant, as there should be no fitting problems or damage to other teeth as a result of a bridge. My wife has a bridge (2 teeth gap I think) and she hates it. On the other hand, one CAN get a good bridge which may be better than my wife's and not bother you. You might consider doing what I'm doing, which is to go to a major dental school to get the implant. The oral surgery is done by students who are already practicing dentists, and under strict supervision. You will save about 50% at most schools. > >After I get my tooth extracted I have to have either a bridge or tooth > >implant. Why doesn't insurance cover tooth implants? What should I expect [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > who are already practicing dentists, and under strict supervision. You > will save about 50% at most schools. Would the result be as good as private practise? Since late summer 2003, I have been helping a relative (who has very limited Enlgish + poor on basic dental care knwoeldge unitl she got to this country started wanting prettier teeth) with serious issues. She had her 4 front teeth (was loose due to childhood accident) removed in January 2003 and was on partial - she belived the dentist was chreating her but I think there was some miscommunication since the American lady helping her was doing a poor job. She just waited for me as I was moving to this state. Her teeth has rotated due to bone loss, the dentist I found for her, after cleaning, root planing, cavity fiiling, leaving the crown work and wisdom teeth removal for later, required her to put the brace on (at an orthodontists) before getting implant done (at a surgeon office). He wasn't going to work with her unless she does brace work. These were all discussed during consultation but she was a pain in the a*s wanting to avoid the brace stage, and wants to get to the destination quickly. The plan was to coordinate with the surgeon for the dental implant. But, from the beginning, she was concern about dental implant being permanent, ie. it would go to the grave with the rest of her body. But I kept telling her about the benefit. In recent months, she has changed her mind and decided to do bridge. Her family who was helping her financially also decided that she should not do implant due to cost. Since it involve financial reason, I kind of gave up pushing about the implant as the stress level of helping these relatives who don't appreciate and take me for granted had worn me out. She is a visitor and has no dental insurance. The bill is footed by older siblings. The coordinating with the dentist (verey good dentist) she goes to for her bridge work has recenlty started. She has been on brace for 2 years and about to get off the brace. Since I have put so much effort in this project and don't like the idea of neighbor teeth getting damaged for bridge work, I am extremely interested in dental implant at 50% of market rate at a dental school. I know that it would be a lot of more work for me to take her and do the talking. But I would like to try convincing her and make arrangment for her though I am not sure whether her dentist would be pleased about this. I would really appreciate it if any of you can give me some contact information of the dental school(s)? (I moved to this state 2 years ago). We are in Sacramento, CA about 2 hours from San Fracisco. We are close to UC davis too but I don't believe they have a dental school. Thanks. amanda wrote: Never mind what i asked. She is not interested in implant. She believes that she is not supposed to die with artificial things in her body. > amanda wrote: Never mind what i asked. She is not interested in > implant. She believes that she is not supposed to die with artificial > things in her body. So if she develops osteoporosis and fractures her hip she prefers amputation and a wheel chair?????? vs an artificial hip implant??? and what about crowns, bridges and fillings they are artificial prosthetics as well??? If she does not want to die with these things just ask to have them removed before the funeral. Does she think that there is a conspiracy to use the implant as an omni-directional antenna??? As far as implant vs bridge that depends on a lot of factors and an implant could fail (small percentage if done correctly, high percentage if done incorrectly) and may need to be redone. But that does not mean it is not a good option for her. > > amanda wrote: Never mind what i asked. She is not interested in > > implant. She believes that she is not supposed to die with artificial [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > removed before the funeral. Does she think that there is a conspiracy > to use the implant as an omni-directional antenna??? I would think that the issue would be at the moment of death, not at the moment living people have a funeral service. If it is about "at the moment of death" when life ceases as we know it, a belief such as this one is all about how the person lived up until the moment of death. If "artificial things in her body" are forbidden at death, I would think they would certainly have been forbidden in life. But ... I don't know what this belief is all about and that's why I asked about it in another post to the thread just before I read this post by Dr. Vasserman. > As far as implant vs bridge that depends on a lot of factors and an > implant could fail (small percentage if done correctly, high percentage > if done incorrectly) and may need to be redone. But that does not mean > it is not a good option for her. I say, a clear understanding of the definition "artificial things" is required in order to turn to the next page of this discussion. Just my two-bits, Webby > > > amanda wrote: Never mind what i asked. She is not interested in > > > implant. She believes that she is not supposed to die with artificial [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > I say, a clear understanding of the definition "artificial things" is > required in order to turn to the next page of this discussion. First I'll admit that the person I have been referring to as a relative is my fraternal twin sister. Now, I will give my opinion on what she considers artificial. She is sooooooo illogical in everything she does in her life, that my pointing out to her about the fillings in her cavities and the 3 crowns she will be putting in regardless of implant or bridge, would only be met with an ignorant answer just to win the conversation since that's the only thing she can win:)- If there is a God, this God is very mean for putting me to be a twin with a person whose goal in life is to prove to the family that their expectation of her (as a loser) will be met. Sorry for my choice of word of "loser". I am only using it because I can't find a suitable word after watching her for the past 2 years after I had not seen her (except during visits back home) since my very early 20s. BTW, she is a good candidate for implant. The surgeon whom we were going to use - his practise is across from the office of her primary care dentist - already took a look at her before she put the brace on. The main reason I undertook this project that came with having to babysit a lot more than I realized was that I didn't want to see her misery with her front teeth issue when we get old when she would no longer be a candidate for implant. It seems that I have no way to excape from seeing her misery - she will never be able to bite with front teeth if she put bridge which has been the way she had lived most of her life already. I have tried my best and will have a clear conscience to just sit and watch when she complains about the bridge not allowing her to function as the natural teeth:)- > Just my two-bits, > Webby >> > > amanda wrote: Never mind what i asked. She is not interested in >> > > implant. She believes that she is not supposed to die with artificial [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] >watch when she complains about the bridge not allowing her to function >as the natural teeth:)- Maybe she's just plain scared of the implant procedure. I know I would be. Ann [..] > Maybe she's just plain scared of the implant procedure. I know I > would be. Who knows? I am exhausted. Can't wait to finish this project I started 2 years ago. > Ann [cut] > I have tried my best and will have a clear conscience to just sit and > watch when she complains about the bridge not allowing her to function > as the natural teeth:)- It's her choice to make about her dental needs. If the dentist has offered a bridge as a reasonable option to meet her needs, and she chooses that option, you have to realize that she is living her life not yours. Webby > [cut] > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > It's her choice to make about her dental needs. But she had little to no knowledge and still probably do not seem to realize the extent of the benefit she will get from the implant. Good in a away as it is a *big* job doing all this for her. > If the dentist has offered a bridge as a reasonable option to meet her needs. When we went to him, we told our plan to do the implant. He's aware how she was a pain in the a*s for me for not wanting to do the brace step and just wanted the implant done - it's like the repeated explantion, not just translation was just a waste. I got so exhausted that I finally informed the dentist what she's demanding. The dentist had to tell her that he would not keep her as a patient if she insists on doing implant without the brace step. Now that she wants to do the bridge, I think that the whole costly brace work ($5500 including the retainer when the brace if off) is a waste of time and money. Am I wrong to assume that? > and she chooses that option, The probem is all the option she has chosen in her life on her own got her nowhere:)- >you have to realize that she is living her life not yours. Rather, it is like I am being forced to live her life (aside from mine with my own stress) because I get to deal with every crisis of hers here. So far, I had done it at big expense - big because it's not just time expense but having to deal with her abuse that seems to stem from feeling bad and getting resentful, I guess form having depend on me. I'll let her live with the conseqeuces of her choice. In another word, I am going to ignore it when she comes tell me that she wants to do the impant. > Webby >If >there is a God, this God is very mean for putting me to be a twin with >a person whose goal in life is to prove to the family that their >expectation of her (as a loser) will be met. Sorry for my choice of >word of "loser". That's why god made bullets. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > >If > >there is a God, this God is very mean for putting me to be a twin with [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > That's why god made bullets. But I need something that would evaporate the corpse:)- > -- > > W_B > Take out the G'RBAGE > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > amanda wrote: Never mind what i asked. She is not interested in > implant. She believes that she is not supposed to die with artificial > things in her body. Is this just something she came up with on her own or is this "belief" common within a group of like-mided people who base this in cultural or religious rules about how to live? Clearly, "artificial things" would need to be defined in depth so as to avoid the risk of dying with "artificial things" in ones body. Please understand that I am serious in my questions. Webby >Please understand that I am serious in my questions. > >Webby No you're not. 8^]] -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > > amanda wrote: Never mind what i asked. She is not interested in > > implant. She believes that she is not supposed to die with artificial [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > common within a group of like-mided people who base this in cultural or > religious rules about how to live? Well, it's not that she is thoroughly informed about the religion we were brought up with since she hardly read history. What she has is the superstition she learned from the people who are like her, i.e listen to the religious leader who says this is in the holy book. > Clearly, "artificial things" would need to be defined in depth so as to > avoid the risk of dying with "artificial things" in ones body. I know but she is not at that level to even contemplate that. She is just stuck with the lines she has been fed. > Please understand that I am serious in my questions. I do. If I ask her to think about it in the way we are discusisng here, she will just scream "I don't want it, I don't want it" implying that the discussing is closed, ie. don't talk to me with logic:)- > Webby |
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