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what is latest in stem cell research and its application in dentistry
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vivacious_rupali@yahoo.co.in - 10 Nov 2005 13:20 GMT i am a dental student from india and would like to know how far stem cell research has reached.i believe there is immense potential to regenerate new teeth in place of those that are lost...infact not just teeth but other tissues as well.artificial substitutes certainly are no match for natural teeth.
Amatus Cremona - 10 Nov 2005 14:10 GMT >would like to know how far stem > cell research has reached. Have you done a literature search yet ?
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>i am a dental student from india and would like to know how far stem > cell research has reached.i believe there is immense potential to > regenerate new teeth in place of those that are lost...infact not just > teeth but other tissues as well.artificial substitutes certainly are no > match for natural teeth. Sue - 10 Nov 2005 16:59 GMT Google: bone morphogenic protein
Jaw transplant allows man to chew after nine years
00:01 27 August 2004 NewScientist.com news service Gaia Vince A man has been able to savour his first proper meal in nine years after surgeons successfully created and transplanted a jawbone for him.
A jaw, grown on a titanium frame, enabled the man to chew for the first time since he lost his lower jaw in radical surgery for cancer. The functional jawbone was created using a combination of computer aided design and bone stem cells.
The 56-year-old German man underwent surgery to remove cancerous tumours on his jawbone in 1995, and since then he was able to eat only soup and soft foods. But just four weeks after a pioneering jaw-creation and transplantation procedure, he tucked into a meal of sausages and bread.
Current techniques for replacing lost bone usually rely on a painful, slow-healing bone graft from another part of the body, causing loss of bone density in the donor area and a secondary site of possible infection. Flat areas, such as the shoulder blade, are often used, which are far from ideal replicates for a complex three-dimensional structure like jawbone.
Now, doctors at the University of Kiel in Germany have neatly bypassed the initial bone removal procedure and instead grown the required bone from stem cells in the patient's own bone marrow.
"We created a titanium mesh cage to a three-dimensional shape and fit, for his lower jaw, using computer-aided design, based on CT scans of his face," explains Patrick Warnke from the Department of Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery, who carried out the jaw transplant.
Liquid bone marrow
Warnke and colleagues then filled the mesh with bone mineral blocks of bovine origin, that would act as a scaffold for the growing bone. On to the blocks were poured a mixture of recombinant human bone morphogenic protein (BMP) powder - a genetically engineered protein that causes cells to ossify or become bone - and liquid bone marrow containing stem cells.
The titanium frame with its bone-growing ingredients were then implanted into a layer of muscle on the patient's right shoulder blade to form tissue and blood vessel connections to the muscle. "He actually didn't find this uncomfortable at all and was able to sleep on that side with no problems," Warnke comments.
Seven weeks later, when the implant was removed it showed evidence of bone remodelling and mineralisation, and CT scans revealed bone formation. The jaw structure, with its newly created envelope of muscle tissue was then transplanted into the patient's face and microsurgery was performed to connect it to his existing jaw muscle and to blood vessels at the base of his neck. Skin was closed around the new jaw as much as possible.
"He is very happy with the result," Warnke told New Scientist. "He can chew food again and his speech is much more easy to understand, especially on the phone."
Nose structure
Ken Lavery, a maxillofacial consultant, who is carrying out similar research at Queen Victoria Hospital in East Grinstead, UK, says the technique offers huge potential for victims of gunshot or facial tumours.
"It's a sophisticated procedure, but it depends on the patient being in a condition to wait long enough to grow the new bone. We are currently in the process of developing a nose structure for a patient whose nose has been lost though cancer, using a resorbable plate mesh, rather than titanium which needs to be removed after."
Lavery believes that bone marrow is unnecessary for such transplants, since the BMP will grow into bone itself.
In a year's time, when the German patient's bone density has improved further, Warnke hopes to remove the titanium and implant teeth.
Journal reference: The Lancet (vol 364 p 766)
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Stovepipe - 13 Nov 2005 20:25 GMT > n a year's time, when the German patient's bone density has > improved further, Warnke hopes to remove the titanium and implant [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Related Articles .... etc....
> -Sue (nondentist) Verry Goood, Sue nondentist SP (partial dentist)
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Sue - 14 Nov 2005 14:18 GMT > > n a year's time, when the German patient's bone density has > > improved further, Warnke hopes to remove the titanium and implant [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > -- > Take out the TRAASH to reply Thank you SP,
Since we are in the business of implantables, this interests me. The real future (we think) is in stem cell research that leads to biological cures. If breakthroughs in this area continue, then one day our business (as we know it) will be obsolete.
But I will be retired and will have unloaded all my stock by then, LOL. :-) :-)
But seriously, I think it will be wonderful if we can create cures through biological means, as opposed to treating disease. ~99% of our products treat chronic disease and alleviate symptoms, but do not cure the underlying illness. Even so, patients are very happy that at least they have something that can help restore quality of life for them in many cases.
Well OK, back to work for me! I hope you are getting back on track at the office, now that you have taken steps to get rid of the riff-raff going on behind your back.
TGIM,
Sue
Stovepipe - 16 Nov 2005 03:02 GMT > Well OK, back to work for me! I hope you are getting back on track at > the office, now that you have taken steps to get rid of the riff-raff > going on behind your back. They were making biological stem cell based cures for the dentist as head of the team. I applied an acute treatment that resulted in radical personnel amputation.
There is no known cure. Sometimes, radical therapies are necessary. One day, this will apply to myself as well.
Cheers SP
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rupali - 15 Nov 2005 14:22 GMT I am sorry .Please allow me to correct myself...how much progress has stem cell research made
Amatus Cremona - 15 Nov 2005 14:56 GMT >I am sorry .Please allow me to correct myself...how much progress has > stem cell research made Lots, but none that can be used in dentistry.
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>I am sorry .Please allow me to correct myself...how much progress has > stem cell research made rupali - 15 Nov 2005 15:15 GMT I disagree here....stem cell research will prove a boon to oral surgeons who can implant either tooth buds or a full grown tooth ,whichever way it is possible . An individual requiring an implant would prefer a natural tooth to a titanium implant unless the cost of the treatment forces him to think otherwise. We will just have to allow it time to gain momentum but eventually it will prove effective and useful
Amatus Cremona - 15 Nov 2005 15:55 GMT >stem cell research will prove a boon to oral > surgeons who can implant either tooth buds or a full grown tooth [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > it time to gain momentum but eventually it will prove effective and > useful In how many decades ?
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>I disagree here....stem cell research will prove a boon to oral > surgeons who can implant either tooth buds or a full grown tooth [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > it time to gain momentum but eventually it will prove effective and > useful Sue - 15 Nov 2005 21:31 GMT "In how many decades ?" ******************************
Published June 2004, Biomedical Materials
Dentures may soon be obsolete: stem cells hold answer to growing your own teeth It may not be very long before it will be possible for people who have lost or damaged teeth to grow them back. Scientists believe it may only be about five years before this technology becomes a reality for the general public.
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> >stem cell research will prove a boon to oral > > surgeons who can implant either tooth buds or a full grown tooth [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > it time to gain momentum but eventually it will prove effective and > > useful Amatus Cremona - 15 Nov 2005 21:50 GMT >Scientists believe it may only > be about five years before this technology becomes a reality for the > general public. The same scientists who were going to give us artificial enamel which we could fuse with a laser by 1993 ?
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> "In how many decades ?" > ****************************** [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >> > it time to gain momentum but eventually it will prove effective and >> > useful Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 15 Nov 2005 22:03 GMT > "In how many decades ?" > ****************************** [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > -Sue Great idea, but from what I've read, the 5-year reality is ludicrous.
Steve
>>>stem cell research will prove a boon to oral >>>surgeons who can implant either tooth buds or a full grown tooth [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >>>it time to gain momentum but eventually it will prove effective and >>>useful
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mmaker@my-deja.com - 18 Nov 2005 14:43 GMT > Great idea, but from what I've read, the 5-year reality is ludicrous. As some famous science fiction writer once pointed out (Clarke maybe?) humans tend to expect linear improvement while technology tends to improve exponentially... so we overestimate short-term progress and underestimate long-term progress. That's why almost all of these estimates prove very optimistic.
Mark
W_B - 18 Nov 2005 15:31 GMT >> Great idea, but from what I've read, the 5-year reality is ludicrous. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Mark "Sufficiently advanced technology is indistiguishable from magic."
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Alexander Vasserman DDS - 19 Nov 2005 06:52 GMT You also need to have frozen stem cells from primary teeth for this to be possible. I give it 15 years before a procedure is packaged for the dentist to peform this procedure on the general public.
rupali - 19 Nov 2005 09:07 GMT Sir , would it be feasable to regenerate pulp in case of necrosis of a part the pulpal tissue so that it need not be extirpated thereby retaining the vitality of the tooth.
W_B - 21 Nov 2005 17:19 GMT >Sir , would it be feasable to regenerate pulp in case of necrosis of a >part the pulpal tissue so that it need not be extirpated thereby >retaining the vitality of the tooth. No. --
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The Webby - 15 Nov 2005 16:46 GMT > I disagree here....stem cell research will prove a boon to oral > surgeons who can implant either tooth buds or a full grown tooth [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > it time to gain momentum but eventually it will prove effective and > useful How long before the temporomandibular joint is ready for the surgeons, rupali?
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Amatus Cremona - 15 Nov 2005 17:11 GMT > How long before the temporomandibular joint is ready for the surgeons, > rupali? Now that would be much more helpful to the health of the population that growing extra teeth. And, knees and hip joints as well.
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> >> I disagree here....stem cell research will prove a boon to oral [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > TW W_B - 15 Nov 2005 17:15 GMT >We will just have to allow >> it time to gain momentum but eventually it will prove effective and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >TW When pigs fly ? --
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Sue - 15 Nov 2005 17:44 GMT > >We will just have to allow > >> it time to gain momentum but eventually it will prove effective and [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Take out the G'RBAGE > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com To rupali, Don't let some other's attitudes get to you.
Some people look at possibilities and wonder "why?" Others look at possibilities and wonder "why not?"
Some people have "can do" atittudes. Some have "cannot do" attitudes.
If we all had "cannot do" attitudes, we may have all been killed off by TB and other diseases!
Keep believing and seeking new possibilities. Don't let naysayers stop you.
Best, Sue
rupali - 16 Nov 2005 13:02 GMT Thanks alot for all the support and encouragement Sue.
The Webby - 15 Nov 2005 17:45 GMT > >We will just have to allow > >> it time to gain momentum but eventually it will prove effective and [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Take out the G'RBAGE > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com How's the aviation research going with the pigs??? (Does NASA know about this?)
TW
Sue - 15 Nov 2005 18:35 GMT Is this Dentaltown?
Drawing conclusions about stem cell research and potential dental applications by reading product catalogs.
-Sue
W_B - 15 Nov 2005 19:26 GMT >> >We will just have to allow >> >> it time to gain momentum but eventually it will prove effective and [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >TW The flying toaster has been perfected. --
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The Webby - 15 Nov 2005 19:36 GMT > >> >We will just have to allow > >> >> it time to gain momentum but eventually it will prove effective and [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Take out the G'RBAGE > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Do you think it might have been a better idea for the researchers to at least attempt to fly a non flighted bird such as an emu (much smaller than an ostrich -- and not nearly as mean!) before the pig? You know ... success rates and all that ...
TW
Amatus Cremona - 15 Nov 2005 20:05 GMT > The flying toaster has been perfected. Does anyone still have that screen-saver on their PC ?
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> >>> >We will just have to allow [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Take out the G'RBAGE > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Sue - 15 Nov 2005 20:45 GMT > > The flying toaster has been perfected. > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Take out the G'RBAGE > > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com So you mean, when your wife hurled it at you?
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rupali - 16 Nov 2005 12:59 GMT I don't know how long but if it is possible to regenerate the tissues of the temporomandibular joint and other joints it sure would prove worthy of the time and effort spent in being able to develop it.
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 16 Nov 2005 15:17 GMT > I don't know how long but if it is possible to regenerate the tissues > of the temporomandibular joint and other joints it sure would prove > worthy of the time and effort spent in being able to develop it. I don't disagree. However, while I have heard of differentiation to specific cell types in cell culture, I haven't heard of a discrete organ being formed--has anyone else?
Steve
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rupali - 16 Nov 2005 15:58 GMT please visit the following link:
http://www.biospectrumindia.com/content/research/10504112.asp - The new heart cells were obtained by injecting stem cells in the affected region (comprising of dead muscle cells) of the heart. These stem cells then differentiated to form new heart cells. It is thus possible to obtain differentiated heart cells. Considering the fact that the heart cells are of a uniform type they might probably be easier to regenerate theoretically. Nevertheless it proves that it is possible to regenerate cells of a partially dead or necrosed organ presumably such as pulp especially considering the cells present in the pulpal tissue. Establishing the nervous supply may prove challenging though.....but possible.
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 16 Nov 2005 16:01 GMT > please visit the following link: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > present in the pulpal tissue. Establishing the nervous supply may prove > challenging though.....but possible. It would be nice to know just what tissue was regenerated--myocardium? Endocardium? Valvular structures?
Steve
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rupali - 16 Nov 2005 16:06 GMT rupali - 16 Nov 2005 16:08 GMT myocardium in this case....although it is possible to regenerate all of them
Sue - 17 Nov 2005 00:04 GMT Steve,
We are doing some research in this area. So far effort has been focused on regenerating areas of the heart that have been damaged by infarct. No valvular structures. Some successes, but still many hurdles. Much is confidential and remains unpublished. Sorry. If I have time, I can see what we have published (if anything) and report back.
We are not as highly developed in the area of cellular work as other institutions. We are just getting our feet wet in this area.
-Sue
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 17 Nov 2005 14:11 GMT > Steve, > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > -Sue Cool stuff. This is Medtronic, right?
Steve
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Sue - 17 Nov 2005 15:39 GMT > > Steve, > > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Brooklyn, NY > 718-258-5001 Yes. But the serious truth is that I am not supposed to be using my computer for anything other than Medtronic work. So I really cannot be posting online here from work. I could get fired. (I am serious) Therefore I must keep my posts to a bare minimum.
It is difficult for me to maintain my self control because I want to keep checking back in here. I am at my computer most of the day so it is soooooooo easy to indulge.
So I will be posting less and less. Likely only at lunch or after work.
Take Care, Sue
The Webby - 17 Nov 2005 15:55 GMT > > > Steve, > > > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > Take Care, > Sue So if or when you get fired for posting to smd, will you think that your smd participation was more important than your "job" at Medtronic? Or ... am I missing something here? I have to say this: if I were your supervisor and discovered you doing this "online posting activity" with company equipment and on company time ... you'd be fired according to company policy.
Sorry to be so blunt.
Webby
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 17 Nov 2005 15:57 GMT >>>>Steve, >>>> [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > Webby I think I might have to fire myself.
Steve
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The Webby - 17 Nov 2005 16:16 GMT > >>>>Steve, > >>>> [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > Steve I would also have to fire myself. But is Sue the one setting the policy and in the position to fire herself should she fail to respect such policy? Hmmmm. I have no idea. But!, she knows she is doing something she is not supposed to do and something that can cause her to lose her job because of it. And!, she's doing it anyway. Why? That's what I'd like to know.
TW
The Webby - 17 Nov 2005 16:30 GMT In article <nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam-DBD5B3.08164817112005@news-lb-01.socal.r r.com>,
> > >>>>Steve, > > >>>> [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > > TW I found this and I'm going to post it here in smd *because* I want to. Maybe I shouldn't, but I want to ask about this.
After spending 19 years with a company, ... something isn't right. I don't have anything else to add about this. I think there are enough words in this thread to "speak for themselves".
TW
http://www.medkb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/dentistry/6244/I-would-like-to-discus s-this
Sue - 24 Sep 2005 19:35 GMT
>Amatus wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Sue Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 17 Nov 2005 16:38 GMT > I would also have to fire myself. But is Sue the one setting the policy > and in the position to fire herself should she fail to respect such [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > TW At least this isn't a porno site. ...I don't think.
Steve
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The Webby - 17 Nov 2005 16:56 GMT > > I would also have to fire myself. But is Sue the one setting the policy > > and in the position to fire herself should she fail to respect such [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Steve I don't think so either but! ... when I let my website go a few years back (1996), there were many ghost links left in search engines for a long time. For a few years, the site's URL remained as it was but the site became a porn site when seized by the cyberland grabbers. Of course, the "domain" was for sale for a price if I wanted to put an end to the porno. It was a dirty game back then. Unsuspecting readers thought they were going to find information put out by the TMJ Foundation ... and instead, they got something much different.
TW
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 17 Nov 2005 17:05 GMT > I don't think so either but! ... when I let my website go a few years > back (1996), there were many ghost links left in search engines for a [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > TW There is a psychiatrist who posts to the jazz guitar newsgroup, and I once had to e-mail him to tell him some of his links sent me to a porno site. Probably not what a psychiatrist wants to happen.
Steve
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The Webby - 17 Nov 2005 17:13 GMT > > I don't think so either but! ... when I let my website go a few years > > back (1996), there were many ghost links left in search engines for a [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Steve When you have a website, it comes with responsibilities that many people just don't realize. It was nice of you to let him know he had trouble with some links. I would expect nothing less of a nice guy like you, Steve. :-)
I'm going to be offline until tomorrow evening. Hope you have a pleasant day.
Webby
W_B - 17 Nov 2005 17:19 GMT >>>It is difficult for me to maintain my self control because I want to >>>keep checking back in here. I am at my computer most of the day so it [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >Steve Would be glad to do it for you if you so wish ! <hehe> --
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W_B - 17 Nov 2005 17:18 GMT >> It is difficult for me to maintain my self control because I want to >> keep checking back in here. I am at my computer most of the day so it [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >Webby Lack of self control ?
Should I make a report ? --
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Sue - 05 Dec 2005 19:20 GMT > > please visit the following link: > > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > --
> Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS > http://www.dentaltwins.com > Brooklyn, NY > 718-258-5001 Recently published at AHA, 2005
REPAIR-AMI: Reinfusion of Enriched Progenitor Cells and Infarct Remodeling in Acute Myocardial Infarction
Can the infusion of autologous bone marrow-derived progenitor cells following successful reperfusion in AMI patients prevent the onset of post-MI heart failure?
Presenter: Volker Schächinger, MD (J.W. Goethe University, Frankfurt, Germany)
Acute myocardial infarction (AMI) can lead to infarct expansion, chronic left ventricular (LV) dilatation, and, eventually, chronic heart failure. Postinfarction heart failure remains a major challenge for the clinical cardiologist despite "optimal" therapy. For many years, there has been ample research conducted to find ways to diminish the development of heart failure and to enhance myocardial recovery following AMI. Small phase 1 trials have suggested that the intracoronary application of mononuclear progenitor cells derived from the bone marrow may be safe and may contribute to functional regeneration of the infarcted myocardium.
Conclusions:
Intracoronary infusion of bone marrow-derived mononuclear cells in patients with reperfused AMI:
-Is associated with improved global LV contractile function
-Preferentially improves LV function in patients with the most severely depressed contractility after AMI
-Prevents LV ESV expansion within 4 months of therapy
-Holds great promise to limit the development of postinfarction heart failure ****************************************************************************** AMI = acute mycardial infarction LV = left ventricular ESV = end systolic volume (an expansion in ESV indicates remodelling ---> BAD!)
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 05 Dec 2005 20:40 GMT >>>please visit the following link: >>> [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] > ESV = end systolic volume (an expansion in ESV indicates remodelling > ---> BAD!) Sounds good--as far as it goes.
Steve
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rupali - 06 Dec 2005 11:40 GMT Thank you sue for sharing the article .Now we need to see how the stem cell technology can prove useful in dentistry.
Sue - 06 Dec 2005 15:16 GMT > Thank you sue for sharing the article .Now we need to see how the stem > cell technology can prove useful in dentistry. Yes. I think that it WILL prove useful in many areas. Perhaps the timeline of events may extend beyond my lifetime, but nevertheless I believe this technology will someday be accepted treatment/cures for many pathologies.
Thanks rupali and Dr. Bornfeld for not calling me trash and yelling at me to GO AWAY.
Have a great day.
Sue
rupali - 07 Dec 2005 14:56 GMT Sue I very strongly believe that the stem cell technology will prove to be a boon...not just to dentistry but other life sciences as well. A lot of research is being done the world over and I am sure we will live to see it being put to good use. Thank you so much for sharing the articles and also for all the help and encouragement. Please keep me posted with anything new you come across that pertains to stem cell tech.
W_B - 07 Dec 2005 16:33 GMT >Sue I very strongly believe that the stem cell technology will prove to >be a boon...not just to dentistry but other life sciences as well. A [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Please keep me posted with anything new you come across that pertains >to stem cell tech. Pie in the sky is expected next.
-Henny Penny --
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W_B - 16 Nov 2005 16:16 GMT >> I don't know how long but if it is possible to regenerate the tissues >> of the temporomandibular joint and other joints it sure would prove [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Steve Heard they made a Mellotron once.
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Sue - 16 Nov 2005 23:29 GMT > > I don't know how long but if it is possible to regenerate the tissues > > of the temporomandibular joint and other joints it sure would prove [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Brooklyn, NY > 718-258-5001 No. No Discreet organs yet. They are more involved than teeth. I have read that teeth will happen before anything else happens.
Years ago, I attended a couple rountables at MEdtroniX that discussed creating a "scaffolding" (polymer scaffolding to which cells would then be seeded and cultured) to create a new liver and/or pancreas... years ago (early 90s), but then not a word. Guess we never pursued the research. Not sure where it is at.
-Sue
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 16 Nov 2005 23:49 GMT >>>I don't know how long but if it is possible to regenerate the tissues >>>of the temporomandibular joint and other joints it sure would prove [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > No. No Discreet organs yet. They are more involved than teeth. Teeth are discrete organs. One might expect say, beta islet cells of the pancreas before teeth--at least I would.
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W_B - 16 Nov 2005 23:55 GMT >> No. No Discreet organs yet. They are more involved than teeth. > > Teeth are discrete organs. One might expect say, beta islet cells of >the pancreas before teeth--at least I would. > >Steve My thoughts exactly Dr. Langerhans. --
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Sue - 17 Nov 2005 00:07 GMT > >>>I don't know how long but if it is possible to regenerate the tissues > >>>of the temporomandibular joint and other joints it sure would prove [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > Brooklyn, NY > 718-258-5001 Sorry, my mistake. Teeth are expected to be the first discreet organs used clinically.
-Sue
Sue - 14 Sep 2006 14:08 GMT rupali Wrote:
> I don't know how long but if it is possible to regenerate the tissue > of the temporomandibular joint and other joints it sure would prov > worthy of the time and effort spent in being able to develop it. August 2006 (University of MN
http://www1.umn.edu/umnnews/Feature_Stories/Mending_broken_hearts_with_stem_cells.htm
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W_B - 15 Nov 2005 16:56 GMT > We will just have to allow >it time to gain momentum but eventually it will prove effective and >useful Assumes facts not in evidence. --
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Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 15 Nov 2005 17:10 GMT > I disagree here....stem cell research will prove a boon to oral > surgeons who can implant either tooth buds or a full grown tooth [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > it time to gain momentum but eventually it will prove effective and > useful You are aware that the dental organ contains both ectodermal (enamel) and mesodermal (dentin and pulp) tissues? I don't think this will be a particularly easy one.
Steve
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rupali - 16 Nov 2005 13:11 GMT It sure won't be easy but it still is possible. Stem cells also have the potential to provide us with an alternative to root canal treatment as these cells can be transformed into differentiated cells of just about any tissue of the body....possibly even pulp.
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> It sure won't be easy but it still is possible. Stem cells also have > the potential to provide us with an alternative to root canal treatment > as these cells can be transformed into differentiated cells of just > about any tissue of the body....possibly even pulp. Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 16 Nov 2005 15:20 GMT > It sure won't be easy but it still is possible. Stem cells also have > the potential to provide us with an alternative to root canal treatment > as these cells can be transformed into differentiated cells of just > about any tissue of the body....possibly even pulp. Of course. Cells responsible for the pulp are mesodermal in origin, and differentiate into (among others) odontoblasts, which produce the dentin. I don't know that the demand for pain sensation in the pulp would be as great.
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W_B - 16 Nov 2005 16:19 GMT >> It sure won't be easy but it still is possible. Stem cells also have >> the potential to provide us with an alternative to root canal treatment [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Steve Mebbe they can grow pulp cells that produce gutta percha or Resilon.
Now *that* would be interesting. --
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Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 16 Nov 2005 17:24 GMT >>>It sure won't be easy but it still is possible. Stem cells also have >>>the potential to provide us with an alternative to root canal treatment [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Take out the G'RBAGE > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com I'd pay to see that.
Steve
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W_B - 16 Nov 2005 19:13 GMT >>> Of course. Cells responsible for the pulp are mesodermal in origin, >>>and differentiate into (among others) odontoblasts, which produce the [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> >> W_B
>I'd pay to see that. > >Steve "I'd buy that for a dollar"
(you know this movie line ?) --
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Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 16 Nov 2005 21:09 GMT >>>> Of course. Cells responsible for the pulp are mesodermal in origin, >>>>and differentiate into (among others) odontoblasts, which produce the [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Take out the G'RBAGE > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com No. Don't make me Google it.
Steve
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W_B - 16 Nov 2005 21:56 GMT >>>>> Of course. Cells responsible for the pulp are mesodermal in origin, >>>>>and differentiate into (among others) odontoblasts, which produce the [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >> >> W_B
> No. Don't make me Google it. > >Steve It's a game show the bad guys watched in RoboCop. --
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W_B - 16 Nov 2005 16:11 GMT >It sure won't be easy but it still is possible. Stem cells also have >the potential to provide us with an alternative to root canal treatment >as these cells can be transformed into differentiated cells of just >about any tissue of the body....possibly even pulp. Key Word: "potential" --
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W_B - 15 Nov 2005 16:53 GMT >I am sorry .Please allow me to correct myself...how much progress has >stem cell research made Go look it up yourself. --
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Minnie - 10 Nov 2005 17:00 GMT >i am a dental student from india and would like to know how far stem >cell research has reached.i believe there is immense potential to >regenerate new teeth in place of those that are lost...infact not just >teeth but other tissues as well.artificial substitutes certainly are no >match for natural teeth. ".. In 2007, Hitachi Medical aims to start regenerating teeth on a commercial basis, with first-year sales targeted at a modest 100 million yen ($800,000)." ...
There are others working on it too. Did you try a google web search?
Bill - 10 Nov 2005 17:54 GMT vivacious wrote:
artificial substitutes certainly are no match for natural teeth.
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On the other hand, titanium doesn't decay.
Presumably, any future regenerated teeth would be placed in mouths which didn't have enough oral hygiene to retain the originals, and the new teeth would be subject to the same environment that destroyed the old ones.
Sounds like a perpetual re-plantation scheme to me. Where do I buy the stock?
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Dartos - 10 Nov 2005 19:06 GMT Very good point!
I also don't see how the teeth could be 'vital' at implantion. Do I get to charge for the endo too?
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> On the other hand, titanium doesn't decay. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > - dentaldoc Sue - 13 Nov 2005 16:50 GMT > vivacious wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > - dentaldoc Sue - 13 Nov 2005 17:08 GMT Titanium is one of the most biocompatible materials we have today.
As far as applications where new "natural" may not be subject to re-disintegration due to environmental factors might be:
-teeth lost through trauma (car accident, injury etc.) -congenital absence of teeth -cranofacial abnormalities -surgical removal of jaw due to cancer etc.
Also if new teeth can be grown, then new tissue can be grown. I believe that Dentrix is looking at stem cell technology that could one day be an alterantive to root canal therapy.
Just some thoughts, Sue
Stovepipe - 13 Nov 2005 20:25 GMT > Sounds like a perpetual re-plantation scheme to me. Where do I buy the > stock? > > - dentaldoc I'm watching Hitachi... They'll prolly open a new subsiduary based in Singapore (the current hotbed of cloning research: no limiting rules, no religeous zealotism). SP
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rupali - 15 Nov 2005 15:02 GMT regenerated teeth can also be used to replace those lost due to trauma or a cause not related to oral hygiene.
Amatus Cremona - 15 Nov 2005 15:06 GMT > regenerated teeth can also be used to replace those lost due to trauma > or a cause not related to oral hygiene. I did not see those in the catalogue. I must have skipped over that page. Unless you are referring to being able to possibly do this in 25-30 years ?
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> regenerated teeth can also be used to replace those lost due to trauma > or a cause not related to oral hygiene. Sue - 15 Nov 2005 15:51 GMT > > regenerated teeth can also be used to replace those lost due to trauma > > or a cause not related to oral hygiene. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > regenerated teeth can also be used to replace those lost due to trauma > > or a cause not related to oral hygiene. Rupali sounds like he is in research, not marketing.
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rupali - 15 Nov 2005 15:58 GMT I am still a student who believes stem cells have immense potential .Thank you for sharing the article on jaw transplant
Sue - 15 Nov 2005 16:13 GMT > I am still a student who believes stem cells have immense potential > .Thank you for sharing the article on jaw transplant Rupali,
What is your area of study? Are you a dental student? Or other (cellular / molecular biology / genetics, biomaterials... etc.)
Just curious.
Thanks, Sue (nondentist, 20 yrs in research, medical device industry)
rupali - 15 Nov 2005 16:31 GMT The Webby - 15 Nov 2005 16:36 GMT > I am still a student who believes stem cells have immense potential > .Thank you for sharing the article on jaw transplant I've been wondering about the case study. Nothing was written (that I noticed) about how the jaw muscles were kept strong all those years. It would seem that in order to suddenly enjoy a normal diet, there had to be some long term PT employed by the patient.
Webby
Alexander Vasserman DDS - 19 Nov 2005 06:48 GMT Its already been done successfully in vitro at USC. A crown is still required at the end.
Dentist PANKAJ - 07 Dec 2005 10:08 GMT Hello! I'm a new member from India! A freshly passed B.D.S.(Bachelor of Dental Surgery) Graduate! This all seems really Great! How many years have to go for bringing this in routine use? It will be hell lot costly? Right! The technology should develop so that even the poor can get advantage of that; is what I feel.
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Amatus Cremona - 07 Dec 2005 15:17 GMT > How many years have to go for bringing this in routine use? > It will be hell lot costly? Right! 35
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