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bone slivers poking out after extraction...

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JimSocal - 09 Nov 2005 09:11 GMT
As I mentioned in previous posts I had #18 extracted about 4 weeks
ago.

It finally quit hurting about a week ago; actually it hurt a little
less each week, but was still a bit sensitive in the area of the
extraction.

But then, 3 days ago it started hurting a bit as if I'd jammed a chip
into it or something. But then I noticed there was a sliver of bone
sticking through the inside of my gum at the place where the
extraction was.

Went to the oral surgeon today and he said that this is fairly common,
and sometimes these things work themselves out, but if not, then when
the bone pokes through enough, at that time, he'll yank it out, but
right now it isn't ready to be yanked.

Unfortunately I was so relieved that it was apparently "no big deal",
I did not ask more questions.

So now my questions are:

What exactly is happening to cause this/these bone slivers to come
through the gum?

How common is it, really?

He gave me some antibiotic moutwash and told me to apply it with gauze
to the area every 4 hours until the bone works its way out.

Please explain all this to me and give me any advice you may have for
me about it. Like, where is this bone coming from and why and how?
Steven Bornfeld - 09 Nov 2005 14:13 GMT
> As I mentioned in previous posts I had #18 extracted about 4 weeks
> ago.
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> Please explain all this to me and give me any advice you may have for
> me about it. Like, where is this bone coming from and why and how?

    It is indeed very common.  Sometimes when a tooth is extracted
(probably even more often with infected teeth) sometimes the blood
supply to the bony plates surrounding the extracted roots becomes
disrupted, either by minor fracture or from tearing of the periosteum.
Sometimes it is obvious there are bone fragments, and the surgeon should
attempt to clean out the socket of any loose debris--within reason.
However, we generally try to retain as much bone as we can, so we tend
not to be too aggressive.  Anyway, any small bone fragments that lose
blood supply eventually die and work their way to the surface.  Usually
they can be picked out without anesthesia.  If it's annoying the surgeon
should volunteer to remove it for you.  In my office, there would be no
fee for this--it's part of routine postop care.

Steve

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JimSocal - 10 Nov 2005 06:27 GMT
>> As I mentioned in previous posts I had #18 extracted about 4 weeks
>> ago.
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>
>Steve
Thanks for the reply. I feel better about it now. Just hope it doesn't
go on for too long or too many of them.

By the way if you've been following my "story" here, I got approval at
USC Dental School today; they are going to do 5-6 implants for me for
a cost of "around $10k". Of course I can't afford it, but I'm going to
do it anyway; it's either pay them $10k or so to do 5-6 implants or
pay an oral surgeon in private practice $10k to do 2-3. I have to be
able to chew and right now I can't really do that, so ...
In the new year I'll be asking implant questions! (-;

Oh, one more question about the extraction/bone graft area. How
fragile is it? I mean, could I do major damage to it with a chip
sticking it the wrong way? or can I be relatively relaxed about trying
to eat things like chips?
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 10 Nov 2005 14:15 GMT
> Thanks for the reply. I feel better about it now. Just hope it doesn't
> go on for too long or too many of them.
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> sticking it the wrong way? or can I be relatively relaxed about trying
> to eat things like chips?

    Obviously you don't want to disturb the area initially.  The surgeon
will probably try to get primary closure (suture the edges of the soft
tissue  together), but this isn't always possible.  I think most
surgeons may be using some kind of membrane to cover the graft, and if
the surgeon cannot completely close the wound some of the membrane will
show.  I would get more detailed instructions from the surgeon, but I
think you would wish to be very careful about foods that could cause
problems right after the surgery, and for at least the first couple of days.

Steve

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JimSocal - 10 Nov 2005 19:52 GMT
>> Oh, one more question about the extraction/bone graft area. How
>> fragile is it? I mean, could I do major damage to it with a chip
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>
>Steve
The extraction and graft (which was just the type of pouring some bone
into the hole) was done a month ago.

So my question is, how long do I need to be very careful about the
area? Until I get the implants in? Or will it be "tough enough" after
a month or two to withstand things like chips and crackers?

With the bone sliver coming out now, obviously I feel I need to be
careful with it.
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 10 Nov 2005 20:18 GMT
>>>Oh, one more question about the extraction/bone graft area. How
>>>fragile is it? I mean, could I do major damage to it with a chip
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> With the bone sliver coming out now, obviously I feel I need to be
> careful with it.

    I couldn't be absolutely certain without seeing it.  But you are
probably at minimal risk of damage for eating almost anything by now.

Steve

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JimSocal - 11 Nov 2005 20:47 GMT
>> With the bone sliver coming out now, obviously I feel I need to be
>> careful with it.
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>
>Steve
Thanks. I realize you can't say for certain, but a ball park figure is
fine. Sounds good, though I will still be careful at least until these
bone sliver(s) have come out.
W_B - 09 Nov 2005 16:51 GMT
>So now my questions are:
>
>What exactly is happening to cause this/these bone slivers to come
>through the gum?

Bone that has lost its vascularity dies and is rejected by the body.

>How common is it, really?

Very.

>He gave me some antibiotic moutwash and told me to apply it with gauze
>to the area every 4 hours until the bone works its way out.
>
>Please explain all this to me and give me any advice you may have for
>me about it. Like, where is this bone coming from and why and how?

Your surgeon about covered it.

The condition is called seqestration and the sliver of bone is called
a sequestra.
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W_B
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