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Shan - 25 Oct 2005 13:41 GMT
I'd like some advice from a Dentist please.  I went to the dentist lately for
a general check-up - no current problems/pain/sensitivity, and to my shock,
after a bite wing radiograph, he discovered extensive decay on my upper left
premolar.  Decay had come in from the side of the tooth, not affecting the
base, and was about 0.5mm from the pulp.  He told me that root canal maybe an
option, but has a 20% failure rate, would could result in extraction (which I
am trying to avoid).  He did a vitality test on the tooth, which came out
fine, and the tooth is symptomless.  Kindly enough, he then gave me the
option of having first, a temporary filling done with Kalzinol, assess the
situation, and then if pain arises, to have root canal OR if no pain, to have
an amalgam filling.  He said in the latter situation I could need root canal
in 5-10 years.  All the advice was great, except one thing concerns me.  I've
now had the temporary filling done, the tooth is still symptomless, but he
had to leave some of the decay in, since it was so close to the pulp, and he
didn't want to expose the pulp, which apparently would mean he would have to
do the root canal.  Is this safe?  What is the probability of the infection
still progressing to the other root (or one root may already be affected?)?
Or perhaps to the bone?  I want to definitely avoid this situation, yet also
avoid the root canal too, but play it extremely safe?  What is your advice in
this situation?
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 25 Oct 2005 14:48 GMT
> I'd like some advice from a Dentist please.  I went to the dentist lately for
> a general check-up - no current problems/pain/sensitivity, and to my shock,
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> avoid the root canal too, but play it extremely safe?  What is your advice in
> this situation?

    It would be useful to know if the pulp is vital right now.  The
vitality cannot be determined simply by judging the depth of decay.
    It is still a common practice to leave a small bit of decay on the
floor of the cavity if it is thought that removing the last bit of decay
will expose the pulp.  Certain materials such as calcium hydroxide can
encourage the pulp to wall off the decay from the pulp.  Furthermore,
the small bit of decay under a filling will NOT progress IF the
surrounding tooth structure is sound and the margins of the filling are
clean.  I don't know what Kalzinol is, but from the name I wouldn't be
surprised if in fact is is some kind of calcium hydroxide preparation.
If this is the case your dentist is following what is still considered
standard practice.
    I have myself seen many teeth like yours remain vital indefinitely.  A
more permanent filling should be placed in the tooth, leaving a base of
the medicated preparation over the remaining decay.  The tooth should be
checked periodically for signs that the pulp is breaking down, and you
should understand that root canal treatment may be necessary in the
future if it turns out there was prior damage to the pulp.
    BTW, a 20% failure rate for root canals is way high--unless there are
particular circumstances with this tooth that give your dentist pause.

Steve

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Shan - 25 Oct 2005 14:58 GMT
Thank you for your advice Steve.  May I ask, what are the methods of
determining if the pulp is vital?
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 25 Oct 2005 15:41 GMT
> Thank you for your advice Steve.  May I ask, what are the methods of
> determining if the pulp is vital?

    There are electrical pulp tests, where a small current is applied to
the tooth.  A live pulp will respond; a dead one will not.  An acutely
inflamed pulp will give an exaggerated response.
    It is also sometimes done to drill carefully into the tooth without
anesthetic.  It is not necessary to drill to the point of significant
pain, but a vital pulp will respond.  Sometimes, a source of heat or
cold (say, ice or ethyl chloride spray) can determine vitality.
    Having said this, it is sometimes difficult to determine vitality
unequivocally.  Furthermore (and esp. in a multi-rooted tooth) you can
have a pulp which is partially dead, and partially still alive.  So this
isn't always easy to determine.  But usually applying one (or several)
of these tests you can get a pretty good idea of what is going on.

Steve

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Shan - 25 Oct 2005 15:53 GMT
That's really reinforcing to me since I've had the hot & cold stimulus
vitality test done and my tooth did respond.  I am aware the tooth has two
roots though, and the Dentist has rightly made me aware that one root may
possibly already be affected (but he doubts this), and the other could
possibly be reacting to the stimulus test, so he's going to monitor.

Thanks for all your advice Steve.
George Chatzipetros - 25 Oct 2005 18:56 GMT
Steve, Kalzinol is resin-modified ZOE cement.
Shan, I would go for the amalgam filling straightaway. If the dentist
can clear the decay from the walls and margins as Steve suggested
without exposing the pulp, he could place a filling (better a bonded
amalgam) to cut off the "food supply" of the decay. RCT may be
unavoidable in the long term however.

Best of luck,
George
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 25 Oct 2005 18:59 GMT
> Steve, Kalzinol is resin-modified ZOE cement.
> Shan, I would go for the amalgam filling straightaway. If the dentist
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> Best of luck,
> George

    Thanks for the info, George.

Steve

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718-258-5001

Joel M. Eichen - 26 Oct 2005 10:36 GMT
>That's really reinforcing to me since I've had the hot & cold stimulus
>vitality test done and my tooth did respond.  I am aware the tooth has two
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>
>Thanks for all your advice Steve.

This sounds like a smart dentist .......
W_B - 25 Oct 2005 21:24 GMT
>    BTW, a 20% failure rate for root canals is way high--unless there are
>particular circumstances with this tooth that give your dentist pause.
>
>Steve

I would say failure rate for RCT is between 3 - 5 %
Given good treatment and a good coronal seal.
--

W_B
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Joel M. Eichen - 26 Oct 2005 10:34 GMT
>I'd like some advice from a Dentist please.  I went to the dentist lately for
>a general check-up - no current problems/pain/sensitivity, and to my shock,
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>didn't want to expose the pulp, which apparently would mean he would have to
>do the root canal.  Is this safe?  

He soulds like a very decent dentist to me.

Joel M. Eichen DDS

>What is the probability of the infection
>still progressing to the other root (or one root may already be affected?)?
>Or perhaps to the bone?

Zero. No blood supply and no oxygen for aerobic bacteria in there.

> I want to definitely avoid this situation, yet also
>avoid the root canal too, but play it extremely safe?  What is your advice in
>this situation?
 
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