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Joel M. Eichen   Dec 8 2004, 11:38 am     show options

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RE: You do not know what you are talking about!

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The heck I don't! Plums ARE prunes and prunes are plums.

However, for dates, try to stick to the plums and skip the prunes
...... .well you know what I mean, but Slivovitz is NOT from dates,
either good dates or bad ones .........

Prunes, plums, dates ... better talk to the rabbi first.

JOEL

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Slivovitz Hungarian Plum Brandy, 3-years old

DESCRIPTION:  Slivovitz plum brandy. Product of Hungary. volume: 750ml

SUPERVISION: Rabbi Aron Hoffman, Orthodox Chief Rabbi of Budapest.

  retail  single bottle price  case price (12)  

$25.45 ea.  $23.59 ea.   $268.89  

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Joel M. Eichen   Dec 8 2004, 11:34 am     show options

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CO2 cannot rot teeth ...... BUT!!!!!! CO2 --> H2CO3 carbonic acid,
from which we get the word "carbonation."

So more acid means more dissolution of calcium salts (tooth structure)
..... making the entire mouth more vulnerable to TOOTH DECAY (caused
by nasty bacteria).

Joel

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Jello Shots are frugal but do they rot teeth?
(Cute title to cover both newsgroups)

misc.consumers.frugal-living, sci.med.dentistry

Who knows what Jello Shots are????

LIVE AND LEARN DEPARTMENT

NEW ORLEANS -- An 8-year-old girl was suspended for nine days for
bringing to school what appeared to be about 30 "Jell-O shots" --
though it was unclear whether they contained alcohol.

photo here ......

http://www.awesomedrinks.com/store/jello_shot_xtra2.jpg

Discussion here ......
(no sign up to read, sign up to post) ....

http://www.dentalcom.net/forum/showthread.php?t=327



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Someone was hawking Kosher grape juice on another thread ...... it
could become a great TV commercial ......

These Kosher guys, all rabbis, huge black hats, beards, well they are
in the kitchen making the Kosher Jello Shots. They got the grape jiuce
and they throw in some Slivovitz (that's prune brandy).

And the Jello, and make a delicious treat just in time for Chanukkah.

Joel

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Apparently all kinds of containers and molds. You can uses paper cups
or you can use one of the pornographic molds that they use for
chocolates. Heck, I imagine you could take an alginate impression of
the guy's upper jaw and pour in your mixture of tequila and Jello.

Joel

I like cherry jello!

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Apparently all kinds of containers and molds. You can uses paper cups
or you can use one of the pornographic molds that they use for
chocolates. Heck, I imagine you could take an alginate impression of
the guy's upper jaw and pour in your mixture of tequila and Jello.

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What kind of receptacle for the Jello?

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More Gingo-Vitz information.

This is similar to Ginko-Baloba .......whatever.

Ginko-Balboa (Rocky's new film about Eastern therapies).

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LR1M: Intrusion or Extraction?
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Joel344   Sep 3, 10:42 am     show options

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With dentistry as with bathroom remodeling the first ticket is to
"know
your customer." This is increasingly difficult as people bounce around
from dentist to dentist.

By this I mean to ask certain open-ended questions and listen as to
how
people respond. Some people want a basic job to prevent the food from
sliding up between those teeth and others, well you would be astounded
as to what people request.

I have had patients who desire chin implants, everything ... and they
have the money and the desire for follow through.

Conversely, one astute patient came in and told me,

"...nothing fancy Doc, just a good basic job." Oh boy that saved so
many words!

Joely

Joel M. Eichen

DDS

aka Joel

aka Joel344

aka "The Closer."

..humor on that last one .... THIS IS NOT sales,
although it almost appears that way!

Joely

PS While trying to figure out how to spell a
word that I had to exchange out because I
could not figure out how to spell it, I came
across another old-time favorite:

slivovitz

DEF. Hungarian plum brandy

W_B <no_...@nowhere.net> wrote:

'K... will go up to the mountain and converse with the gods.
Thanks
SP

Joel344 <joeleic...@yahoo.com> wrote:

JME, I sincerely appreciate what you and W_B and the others are saying
to me. My gut, my nose and my little finger tells me

PUT IN BONE SCREWS THAT WILL LAST TILL THE NEXT COMING OF BOB.

See the reply to W_B and think about it. I do thank you both
especially
for forcing me to solidify my position.

Cheers
SP

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W_B <no_...@nowhere.net> wrote:

Ach, Laddie.... Glad yew think so....

Six weeks for re-eval in what I've learned.
The way you present this, the perio will be all but cured. Period. I
know this is not the case and so do you. The guy will not come down
from
Chicoutimi every three months to detoxify that booby trap between the
two teeth. I know it in my bones.

If I sink two implants into that mug, they may just be the last two
teeth in the posterior quadrant in twenty years' time, after the other
natural teeth have been maintained,,, maintained,,, maintained,,,
until
they just fall out of existance. Check it out in your own patient's
mouths: when you screw a patient, it lasts. When you cap them it is
more
iffy perio wise.

Aren't you the one who warns about putting crowns and bridges on
natural
teeth before root canals? The upper 2M will have the sh.t cut out of
it
so he could have a bridge in line with the upper 2PM. All this would
be
sitting on crappy bone and root quality. I don't have the stomach to
do
that. Add to it the cost of four-canal Endo, and you are damed near a
price of a unitary implant anyway. Even more so if you decide to get
them both done together.

Maybe, but I don't feel like doing operative and FPD on a swamp.

What you all have said to me has been very beneficial, even if I
choose
to recommend another Tx that what you and JME have suggested.

I'm gonna see him this week and recommend U/L single implants. If he
says 'No', I'm gonna have him  sign it in the dossier and it's caveat
emptor re: Vitality of the upper 2nd Molar and the perio between the
lower 1st molar and its anterior neighbor. He'll sign that too. If I
could, I would refer him down to Wershington and let you all perform
on
him.

Thanks for solidifying my position.
SP

REPLY

This is the value of SMD and now DentalCom.net, www.MedKB.com and all
the others too numerous to mention.

Often, the choices are not clear cut. It is still your decision in the
long run and your responsibility as well. So here are a number of
dentists, patients, interested people who can chimne in and suggest
this or that.

Some good ... some bad .... ALL USEFUL!

Other dentists, lurkers, Rod Kurthy, anybody even Howie Farran can
read this over and think "there but for the grace of Bob, go I."

Joel

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Joel M. Eichen <joeleic...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Exactly. As I said, you all have forced me to defend and solidify my
own
position.

Too true. I don't think Howie would deign to appear here though.

Bob be with you.

Thanks
SP

That would be a hoot!

Joel

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Joel M. Eichen <joeleic...@yahoo.com> wrote:

I would bet more on the rumor that Jesus Christ got down off the cross
way back when...

SP

I suggest you simply cut the tooth down to normal height and recontour
it.
It has endo, so you don't have to worry about the pulp.  Reshape it to
what
you want to restore it to.  Add some composite if you have to.  Leave
it
this way for a few days as a diagnostic effort.  If all is well, do a
full
crown, 3/4 crown, or onlay.

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Amatus Cremona <Nic...@amati.com> wrote:

Well, this is a variation of what W_B and JME and others were saying,
and I _still_ feel that it will end in tears after this patient loses
his insurance. However, it could be a plan B. Next time I see him I'll
discuss the options.

I still feel that a crown on the lower and a bridge on the upper is a
second class treatment.

Thanks
SP

This is the old problem .... I have had patients with teeth,
not great teeth but teeth and their Chief Complaint (C.C.) is
..... they are losing their dental insurance and want all
their teeth out and dentures  ..... NOW!

I can't do it!

Joel

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That may well be the case, but it is not your burden.  Don't get
overly
involved with trying to be the hero for your staff's family.  Trust
me, they
will still leave you without adequate notice the first time someone
else
offers them $0.50 an hour more than you are paying them.  Treat the
case
well, and treat it properly, but don't sweat over getting them Rolls
Royce
level of care just because the daughter works with you.  Do the work
in
stages and do the best they will let you do.

W_B   Sep 7, 12:21 pm     show options

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On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 20:55:15 -0400, stove99p...@yahoo.ca (Stovepipe)
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Agree to disagree...

The above treatment will most likely work, with the
least amount of trouble.

Amatus Cremona <Nic...@amati.com> wrote:

Will comment on this tonite when I have time.  

Dear Bob but I am sick of being poor....

SP

On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 13:24:00 GMT, "Amatus Cremona" <Nic...@amati.com>
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Good advice.

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W_B <no_...@nowhere.net> wrote:

If you look at that xray again, you will see that the mesial of the
lower 1st molar is in bad shape and the interdental space is in a
state
of permanent perio disease; even a full osseous flap with apical
repositioning will not eradicate that. So, cutting down that tooth
doesn't adress that problem, whether or not we crown it or just Fuji 9
it  or composite it or whatever.

Would you not agree?

My next point was that implants tend to be better perio risks than
natural tooth roots are. Others have said this, and I seem to have
seen
this in those few patients I have with implants (done by others, not
by
myself). Therefore, this would be a better cost outlay in the long run
for this patient.

Would you not agree that it is the case that implants tend to last
longer in an alveolar bone than natural teeth?

And, assuming that the resting potential of a nerve fiber is 70mV
(inside negative) , and implants can dissipate electrical potential
into
the surrounding chewing gum, and if I shoot 350mV across an implant
and.....

GOOD BOB!!!! What am I saying??!?!?!?!?!     ;-)

SP

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On Thu, 8 Sep 2005 21:32:37 -0400, stove99p...@yahoo.ca (Stovepipe)
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I would have to look at the film again to answer these questions.

Then you would be KPW's cousin.

Oops, forgot to say: please repost the link.

W_B <no_...@nowhere.net> wrote:

Yes, I caught that. Here is a copy of my original chicken scratchings:

Stovepipe <stove99p...@yahoo.ca> wrote:

<img src="http://tinypic.com/bgqz49.jpg" alt="Image hosted by
TinyPic.com">

http://tinypic.com/bgqz49.jpg 

[IMG]http://tinypic.com/bgqz49.jpg[/IMG]

http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=bgqz49 

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and the photo of the tooth:

http://tinypic.com/bfgd2x.jpg

Thanks
SP

I must be dense.  I don't see the infrabony defect on the PAx.  I see
bone
level with where the CEJ's would have been if the tooth had not
super-erupted.  I still say, shorten the tooth.

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Amatus Cremona <Nic...@amati.com> wrote:

OK... as said, I'll propose this option to him, but I will remind him
that his insurance won't last forever.

Thanks
SP

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On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 15:35:06 -0400, stove99p...@yahoo.ca (Stovepipe)
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After re-examining this case I still don't think that you would
have a persistant perio problem between 29 - 30.

Cut that sucker down.

BTW that's not the prettiest endo, but it'll likely work.

On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 20:37:31 GMT, "Amatus Cremona" <Nic...@amati.com>
wrote:

Agree.

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On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 20:40:34 -0400, stove99p...@yahoo.ca (Stovepipe)
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Nothing lasts forever.

Be sure and make that patient an NTI.

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W_B <no_...@nowhere.net> wrote:

It isn't infrabony. I was not right about that. It is just really
shitty
architecture as far as perio goes on the mesial of that blessed lowere
1st molar.

SP