> > In the Invisalign websites I saw some Orthodontists listed as premier
> > providers. I would like to know what make a provider a premier
> > provider. Is it experience and number of successful cases?
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> The above plus amount of training.
No disrespect intended to any of the orthodontists (or GP's who do
invisalign) who read this...but what possible extra amount of training could
one get or need with regard to invisalign? It doesn't seem like rocket
science and doesn't really work for complex cases where an experienced
orthodontist would clearly be needed and also have advantage over others
with less experience.
I took the basic course, but haven't done any cases, because quite frankly,
I wasn't all that impressed. I feel the ortho I work with can do better than
I can with this system...and for some minor cases, I can cobble together a
simple appliance at FAR less cost to patient.
Like to hear what others...particularly orthodontists feel.
T
Amatus Cremona - 18 Oct 2005 20:32 GMT
>> The above plus amount of training.
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> No disrespect intended to any of the orthodontists (or GP's who do
> invisalign) who read this...but what possible extra amount of training
> could
> one get or need with regard to invisalign?
Overall training in orthodontics. Board certified, etc.

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W_B - 18 Oct 2005 20:33 GMT
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Think that most orthos think they are the only one who can move teeth.
If the rest of us knew how ridiculously easy it was, more GP's would do ortho.
With the caveat that the armamentarium is expensive and skeletal malformations
are best treated by the Ortho.
I am happy to leave the wire benders to their chosen craft.
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Amatus Cremona - 18 Oct 2005 20:34 GMT
> I am happy to leave the wire benders to their chosen craft.
Amazing how often we can agree.

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W_B - 18 Oct 2005 20:41 GMT
>> I am happy to leave the wire benders to their chosen craft.
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>Amazing how often we can agree.
Great minds think alike.
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W_B - 18 Oct 2005 20:45 GMT
>> I am happy to leave the wire benders to their chosen craft.
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>Amazing how often we can agree.
Did some ortho early in my career at a clinic as an ass-ociate.
It's not extremely hard, it's just something that I didn't particularly enjoy doing.
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Amatus Cremona - 18 Oct 2005 21:03 GMT
> Did some ortho early in my career at a clinic as an ass-ociate.
> It's not extremely hard, it's just something that I didn't particularly
> enjoy doing.
I give the orthodontists lots of credit. The easy cases can be done by a
trained monkey. The tough cases, well I am glad to have the board certified
guys for those. I have a buddy near me who is board certified, and I would
have to train for a long time to be as good as he is. The cases he does at
the cleft lip and facial deformity clinic are amazing.

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Dr.Braces - 19 Oct 2005 03:33 GMT
I aggress, I find that all of my invisilin cases are only good for
minor correction, there is no way to finish the case in ideal results,
however you may come close with some. I suggest 3-5 months of braces
after invislign to get thigns in order. But it really depends on the
cases, for example, if you need to extrude a tooth or some teeth..can't
really do with invislin, etc. I perfer standard braces, for the best
treateatment.
not sure about the training thing, on the orgaional question, like
Tony said, it's very easy to change trays, etc. Also, I havn't heard
anyone using the results from this as anything jet hot they would
consider using for their board cert.
Dr. Braces
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Joel M. Eichen - 19 Oct 2005 09:42 GMT
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>> > providers. I would like to know what make a provider a premier
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>orthodontist would clearly be needed and also have advantage over others
>with less experience.
One has to pass a rigorous test in Check Signing 101.
Joel
>I took the basic course, but haven't done any cases, because quite frankly,
>I wasn't all that impressed. I feel the ortho I work with can do better than
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>> In the Invisalign websites I saw some Orthodontists listed as premier
>> providers. I would like to know what make a provider a premier
>> provider. Is it experience and number of successful cases?
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>The above plus amount of training.
And probably a few extra buck$ that the doc shelled out.
I say consult with a Board Certified Orthodontist
(No slam to you Bornfeld)
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I believe the only criteria for Premier status is the number of cases
treated.
charlie ruff
carabelli - 19 Oct 2005 14:12 GMT
> I believe the only criteria for Premier status is the number of cases
> treated.
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> charlie ruff
Charlie - what did you think about the article in last months AJO-DO?
carabelli