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I have a lesion on the inside of my cheek.

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northern lights - 04 Oct 2005 02:17 GMT
Hey everybody.  I am an 18 year old male from California. I have one
question only really.  About 7 months ago, my dentist found a lesion on
the inside of my left cheek. It is about the size of a tiny pea, and
has a greyish, sometimes whitish coloring to it.  Most of the time it
looks as if there is a whitish circle with a greyish tint in the
middle.  I have been using a beta carotene mouthwash,  although I still
smoke.  I work in a extremely fast paced job, and my smoking habit is
one thing I have not been able to kick yet.  My dentist didn't say
anything about it, just that he would biopsy it the next time.  Does
anyone here know how long it takes for a lesion like mine to become
cancerous?  From what I have read it usually takes decades for someone
to develop oral cancer, but I would like to kick smoking before I catch
that nasty disease.  So anyhelp would be great.
Steven Bornfeld - 04 Oct 2005 03:36 GMT
> Hey everybody.  I am an 18 year old male from California. I have one
> question only really.  About 7 months ago, my dentist found a lesion on
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> to develop oral cancer, but I would like to kick smoking before I catch
> that nasty disease.  So anyhelp would be great.

    No way to tell.
    Your dentist is in a much better position to say.  If there is any
suspicion, he should have had it biopsied immediately.  Otherwise he's
just trying to scare you into stopping smoking.
    Oral cancer in 18 year olds is not unknown--but I've never seen it
myself in 30 years.

Steve

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northern lights - 07 Oct 2005 08:20 GMT
The only problem is, i'm worried.  Yet the lesion itself has not shown
any signs of getting larger in the past 7 months, even though I did not
quit smoking.  It does not hurt,  it just is very strange to look at.
Also, I am getting my wisdom teeth in, and I could be biting it without
knowing it.
Do you think it is anything I need to be worried about yet?
Joel M. Eichen - 07 Oct 2005 13:02 GMT
>The only problem is, i'm worried.  Yet the lesion itself has not shown
>any signs of getting larger in the past 7 months, even though I did not
>quit smoking.  It does not hurt,  it just is very strange to look at.
>Also, I am getting my wisdom teeth in, and I could be biting it without
>knowing it.
>Do you think it is anything I need to be worried about yet?

I am guessing here, but I suspect you are talking about Stenson's Duct
which everyone in the world has ..... and is completely normal.
DISCLAIMER: This is not diagnosis. This is informational only.

If you would be so kind as to snap a photo, then I will improve the
possibility of what you have/do not have.

Joel M. Eichen DDS

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A. Parotid Gland

Located on side of face, anterior to mastoid tip and external auditory
canal, inferior to zygomatic arch, and superior to the lower border of
the angle of the mandible. Anteriorly, it overlaps the masseter
muscle.
Stenson's duct enters oral cavity through buccal mucosa opposite upper
second molar.
Parasympathetic secretory afferents to the parotid leave the inferior
salivary nucleus with the glossopharyngeal nerve and travel via
Jacobson's plexus in the middle ear to synapse in the otic ganglion.
Post-synaptic fibers are distributed to the parotid by the
auriculotemporal nerve.
Facial nerve passes through this gland.
B. Submandibular Gland

Beneath floor of the mouth, inferior to mylohyoid muscles and superior
to digastric muscle.
Marginal mandibular branch of the facial nerve travels in the fascia
on the lateral surface of this gland.
Parasympathetic secretory afferents to the submandibular gland arise
from the superior salivatory nucleus, and leave the brainstem in the
facial nerve. They exit the facial nerve at the geniculate ganglion
and travel via the chorda tympani to the lingual nerve. Fibers synapse
in the submandibular ganglion, and post-synaptic fibers then enter the
gland.
The lingual and hypoglossal nerves lie deep to this gland.
Wharton's duct enters the floor of the mouth near the lingual frenula.
C. Sublingual Glands - located below the mucous membrane of the floor
of the mouth, adjacent to mandible and mylohyoid muscle. Ten to twelve
small caliber ducts drain the gland, some emptying into the
submandibular duct, and others draining directly into the floor of the
mouth.

D. Minor Salivary Glands - small collections of salivary gland tissues
are scattered throughout the oral mucosa, and can also be seen in the
pharynx, supraglottis, nose and sinuses.

Steven Bornfeld - 07 Oct 2005 16:00 GMT
> The only problem is, i'm worried.  Yet the lesion itself has not shown
> any signs of getting larger in the past 7 months, even though I did not
> quit smoking.  It does not hurt,  it just is very strange to look at.
> Also, I am getting my wisdom teeth in, and I could be biting it without
> knowing it.
> Do you think it is anything I need to be worried about yet?

    It is quite possible that you have inflamed (by biting or otherwise)
the parotid papilla (as Joel says), the opening of Stenson's duct.  I
personally think it's a bit scary to think that your dentist wouldn't
recognize this though.
    This is something to get checked out, not to worry about.  Dollars to
donuts, this is no biggie--but I'm not giving you virtual absolution on
this one.  Any unexplained lesion present 7 months should be
checked--period.
    And after you find out it's nothing, don't give up on quitting smoking!!

Steve

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northern lights - 08 Oct 2005 18:50 GMT
Thanks guys.  Well I know for a fact its not Stensons Duct,  it is a
lesion because there is only one of them,  and my dentist told me it
was a lesion.  Here is a picture.
[img]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b315/afingado269/DSCN0640.jpg[/img]
or just click the link

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b315/afingado269/DSCN0640.jpg
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 08 Oct 2005 18:54 GMT
> Thanks guys.  Well I know for a fact its not Stensons Duct,  it is a
> lesion because there is only one of them,  and my dentist told me it
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>
> http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b315/afingado269/DSCN0640.jpg

    Looks like a mucocoele--a small mucous retention cyst, probably caused
by biting and damaging the duct of a minor salivary gland.  The mucous
secretions get trapped under the tissue and form a small bubble.
    If this has re-formed several times, it should be removed.  But this is
basically because of its annoyance factor, and certainly isn't urgent.

Steve

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Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001

northern lights - 08 Oct 2005 19:52 GMT
Wow.  Thank you guys so much.  You are really making me feel more
confident about what I have in my mouth.

One question though.  This mucuous retention cyst, you say,  is it
cancerous?
Would it turn into Leukoplakia?
If I dont get it removed, would it turn into a bigger problem?
Steven Bornfeld - 08 Oct 2005 21:00 GMT
> Wow.  Thank you guys so much.  You are really making me feel more
> confident about what I have in my mouth.
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> Would it turn into Leukoplakia?
> If I dont get it removed, would it turn into a bigger problem?

No, no, and no.

Steve

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northern lights - 08 Oct 2005 22:17 GMT
Thanks.  Yes, my wisdom teeth are coming in and I seem to be having a
harder time talking and eating without my teeth  rubbing  my gums.
Well that explains it.  I have just 2 more questions and then I will
see my dentist, no need to ask my questions to a message board.
Nevertheless, here they are.
Does smoking effect it at all?
How sure are you that mine is some type of cyst?
Tom - 08 Oct 2005 22:35 GMT
>Thanks.  Yes, my wisdom teeth are coming in and I seem to be having a
>harder time talking and eating without my teeth  rubbing  my gums.
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>Does smoking effect it at all?
>How sure are you that mine is some type of cyst?

Smoking doesn't affect it and nobody can be absolutely positive what
it is.  If you have it removed they will send it to the lab to be
checked.
Steven Bornfeld - 09 Oct 2005 03:39 GMT
> Thanks.  Yes, my wisdom teeth are coming in and I seem to be having a
> harder time talking and eating without my teeth  rubbing  my gums.
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> Does smoking effect it at all?
> How sure are you that mine is some type of cyst?

    Smoking can affect any oral tissue.  Smoking also slows healing, so if
the area is traumatized the smoking can at least theoretically retard
healing.
    There is no way I can be sure it's a mucocoele.  However, it has the
typical appearance of one.  Generally they will pop eventually, leaving
a raw surface.  They tend to recur if not removed.
    Yes, it may be biopsied if it is removed.  I've had a couple inside my
own lower lip, but they eventually have healed over by themselves.
    I still think it is a good idea to check it out.  A photo is no
substitute for direct examination.  But the chance of this being
anything ominous is IMO very, very small.

Steve

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W_B - 12 Oct 2005 16:20 GMT
>Wow.  Thank you guys so much.  You are really making me feel more
>confident about what I have in my mouth.
>
>One question though.  This mucuous retention cyst, you say,  is it
>cancerous?
No

>Would it turn into Leukoplakia?
No

>If I dont get it removed, would it turn into a bigger problem?
A bigger cyst perhaps.
--

W_B
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Joel M. Eichen - 09 Oct 2005 02:02 GMT
>Thanks guys.  Well I know for a fact its not Stensons Duct,  it is a
>lesion because there is only one of them,  and my dentist told me it
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>
>http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b315/afingado269/DSCN0640.jpg

I agree with you.
Joel M. Eichen - 07 Oct 2005 13:05 GMT
REPLY to Steve Bronfeld .....

Not necessarily. My experience is that half the dentists are asleep
during lectures that do not directly involve how to translate
something into cash.

Sad but true.

NEXT TOPIC is my favorite. Biochemical aspects of molecular biology!

PS~ Yes I have made these diagnoses, actually a number of times, and
yes, some of the patients did not listen and are no longer with us.

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>> Hey everybody.  I am an 18 year old male from California. I have one
>> question only really.  About 7 months ago, my dentist found a lesion on
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>
>Steve
 
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