>I need to choose a dentist - I don't have much idea how - but im
> guessing choose one from a more affluent area,
In a more affluent area, you will pay more.
>make sure when I get a
> look at there office they have up to date equipment
I suppose that up to date equipments is a good thing. It (like the rest of
the office) should certainly be neat, clean and well maintained.
>and give the
> impression they make pretty good money.
Oops, not exactly sure what you mean about that! It sounds like you may be
looking for a "boutique" practice. If they offer you a cappuccino and a neck
rub...run! If you end up in a slick sales pitch for thousands of $ of veneers
and tooth whitening before they even bother to address your basic oral health,
you are in the wrong place!
> Ask the dentist how long they
> have been in business. Would it be ok to ask them if they have ever
> been sued or had a complaint filed against them and the nature of the
> complaint? Is there a way to get this info whithout them knowing it?
Some states have a web site where you can find out all that information for
any licensed practictioner, mine does.
The sad fact is, it is very difficult for the average dental consumer to
evaluate the quality of received dental care. To answer your basic question;
your best bet is to ask your co-workers, neighbors, and friends. If one name
keeps coming up with satisfied patients, that that is probably your best bet.
> I dont check this often so if you could send a copy to
> firethorn707@yahoo.com that would be very nice.
Nope, you gotta check here.
> Thanks so much
You are welcome.
Vaughn
Stovepipe - 24 Sep 2005 16:16 GMT
> The sad fact is, it is very difficult for the average dental consumer to
> evaluate the quality of received dental care. To answer your basic question;
> your best bet is to ask your co-workers, neighbors, and friends. If one name
> keeps coming up with satisfied patients, that that is probably your best bet.
I would add that I get a few shoppers that come up the stairs and ask to
speak to the dentist. I'm sure it's because they're beginning their
evaluation of me. I ask what it is they are looking for, what problems
they are having, and why they feel they need to change dentists. I am
evaluating as well as we talk. If I think I can co-exist with this
individual, I tell them how I think we should start, and I tell them
what our policy is for missed appointments (three missed with
insufficient notice, and there are no more appointments; they come when
we have an opening). Often that is the reason they are switching: the
original practitioner has said "ENOUGH!".
I evaluate the expression on their faces and then decide what to say
next.
It should be mentioned that this approach is best put on paper and
signed, and there are others here that are doing that in a more rigorous
fashion. I'm heading in that direction as well.
But, just going in and asking if you could have a few words with the
practitioner is not a bad idea. Be open about it: you are shopping for a
dentist and tell them what you think you need.
JMO, and HTH
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Joel M. Eichen - 25 Sep 2005 12:54 GMT
>> The sad fact is, it is very difficult for the average dental consumer to
>> evaluate the quality of received dental care. To answer your basic question;
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>evaluation of me. I ask what it is they are looking for, what problems
>they are having, and why they feel they need to change dentists.
Sadly patients have no way of truly "evaluating."
When they want to know what school, what whatever, I laugh (inside).
> I am
>evaluating as well as we talk. If I think I can co-exist with this
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Stovepipe - 25 Sep 2005 18:22 GMT
> >> The sad fact is, it is very difficult for the average dental
> >> consumer to evaluate the quality of received dental care. To answer
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> When they want to know what school, what whatever, I laugh (inside).
As the OP suggested originally, the School Of Practice In The Real
World, or SOPITRW, is the one that counts.
<the Pipe stares sagely into the horizon....>
<.........and tripps over a crack in the sidewalk....>
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george1234 - 26 Sep 2005 17:14 GMT
>When they want to know what school, what whatever, I laugh (inside).
due diligence... you'd cry if they did not go to school
Joel M. Eichen - 24 Sep 2005 16:19 GMT
>>I need to choose a dentist - I don't have much idea how - but im
>> guessing choose one from a more affluent area,
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> I suppose that up to date equipments is a good thing. It (like the rest of
>the office) should certainly be neat, clean and well maintained.
REPLY
Yup, absence of spittoons ........ is a good sign. The ones that sit
on the floor!
>>and give the
>> impression they make pretty good money.
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> You are welcome.
> Vaughn
Slipstream - 24 Sep 2005 20:17 GMT
Not looking for a boutique - just want the best job on my teeth i can
get. I'm assuming if they do a crappy job they would have no clients
and hence no money.
Joel M. Eichen - 25 Sep 2005 12:55 GMT
>Not looking for a boutique - just want the best job on my teeth i can
>get. I'm assuming if they do a crappy job they would have no clients
>and hence no money.
Hah.
Good one!
Bill - 26 Sep 2005 17:42 GMT
> Not looking for a boutique - just want the best job on my teeth i can
> get. I'm assuming if they do a crappy job they would have no clients
> and hence no money.
Wrong assumption.
Some of the worst dentists make lots of money.
Many of the busiest dentists in my part of the country advertise very
cheap prices, and obtain patients who are seduced by the low cost, but
who cannot evaluate the low quality they recieve.
Sometimes this treatment has to be redone at a cost much greater than
it would have been, if it had been done right to start with.
It's better to evaluate a dentist on the contents of his character, not
the color of his money. ;-)
- dentaldoc
Dartos - 26 Sep 2005 20:55 GMT
Sometimes you get what you pay for and sometimes you get less.
;-)
Dartos
> Wrong assumption.
>
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>
> - dentaldoc
Joel M. Eichen - 26 Sep 2005 23:47 GMT
>Sometimes you get what you pay for and sometimes you get less.
>
>;-)
>Dartos
Gee I think Steven Fawks is about to borrow that phrase from you ...
its catchy.
>> Wrong assumption.
>>
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>>
>> - dentaldoc
Clinton - 27 Sep 2005 02:09 GMT
> Wrong assumption.
>
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> cheap prices, and obtain patients who are seduced by the low cost, but
> who cannot evaluate the low quality they recieve.
Could you be more specific. What is "low quality". What are
some of the worst case scenarios (still likely to occur).
> It's better to evaluate a dentist on the contents of his character, not
> the color of his money. ;-)
Do you think if a dentist (with a good reputation) hires
an associate, he has an obligation to ensure the associate
does good quality work?
> - dentaldoc
That's an easy one ,,,,,,,, your local prothonotary's office holds the
key!
Joel
>I need to choose a dentist - I don't have much idea how - but im
>guessing choose one from a more affluent area, make sure when I get a
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>
>Thanks so much
> I need to choose a dentist - I don't have much idea how - but im
> guessing choose one from a more affluent area, make sure when I get a
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>
> Thanks so much
Try contacting a dental specialist (someone who's practice is limited
to periodontics, orthodontics, endodontics) in your area, they work
with multiple general dentists and can give you good information.
Another possibility is to contact a dental school if there is one in
your area. State Boards of dentistry have information on actions that
have been taken against dentitst in the state.
Personalities vary, so don't be shy about leaving an office if you
don't fit the personality of the office or dentist.
Clinton - 27 Sep 2005 02:12 GMT
so much
> Try contacting a dental specialist (someone who's practice is limited
> to periodontics, orthodontics, endodontics) in your area, they work
> with multiple general dentists and can give you good information.
Actually in dental school they teach all dentists to respond with
the following phrase:
Dr. X?? Good Dentist!
Clinton - 27 Sep 2005 02:18 GMT
> so much
>
> Actually in dental school they teach all dentists to respond with
> the following phrase:
>
> Dr. X?? Good Dentist!
In other Words...
Dr. Eichen??....thoughtful pause....
Very good dentist!!
carabelli - 27 Sep 2005 04:06 GMT
> so much
>>
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>
> Dr. X?? Good Dentist!
I must have missed that day. Things were a little different when ethics
were discussed the next day. Not that you would give a rat's.........
I have given the above response several times in the past - get a
specialist's opinion. I quit doing it because of knee jerk comments such as
yours - Nice job
carabelli
You cannot judge a dentist by the expense of his fancy waiting room
decor or his hi-tech operating toys. A dentist can be judged by his
skills (which you really can't determine unless you too are a dentist)
and by his approach to your dental health.
If he is more interested in his fancy toys and showplace office than in
your welfare and health as an individual human being, consider looking
elsewhere.
The personal character of the dentist, and his dedication to your
dental welfare, are far more important than how shiny the chrome is on
the side of the operatory unit.
- dentaldoc