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Partial Plate: what % of people over 40 have one?

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gg6166@pacbell.net - 19 Sep 2005 19:29 GMT
I would just like to get an educated guess from the obviously
very-knowledgeable sci.med.dentistry community:

What percentage of people over 40 do you think have a partial plate?

I'm wondering because my dentist just told me that I will need to have
two front lower teeth removed because of bone loss (the right "canine"
(or "pointy"?) tooth and the one immediately to its left.)

This dentist, though young, seems very capable and kind-hearted, so I'm
inclined to accept her opinion, even though I'd rather not!

I guess I'm feeling a bit down about the whole thing.  I'm supposed to
get a "Valplast" partial.

Any thoughts or suggestions you might have are welcome!

Brett
Joel M. Eichen - 20 Sep 2005 01:23 GMT
>I would just like to get an educated guess from the obviously
>very-knowledgeable sci.med.dentistry community:
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>This dentist, though young, seems very capable and kind-hearted, so I'm
>inclined to accept her opinion, even though I'd rather not!

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The teeth loose or not?

Joel;

>I guess I'm feeling a bit down about the whole thing.  I'm supposed to
>get a "Valplast" partial.
>
>Any thoughts or suggestions you might have are welcome!
>
>Brett
gg6166@pacbell.net - 20 Sep 2005 02:24 GMT
> The teeth loose or not?
>
> Joel;

Hi Joel:

Thanks for your question.

They don't seem loose to me, but the dentist says they are. I suspect a
dentist measures looseness somewhat differently from a non-dentist.
When I place my index finger on either of them and try to move them
forward or backward, there is a small amount of "give", but not much.

I certainly appreciate any thoughts you may have on the matter.

Brett
W_B - 20 Sep 2005 02:44 GMT
>> The teeth loose or not?
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>Brett

How far, in millimeters ?

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gg6166@pacbell.net - 20 Sep 2005 07:00 GMT
> How far, in millimeters ?
>
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> wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
> Take out the G'RBAGE

Hi W_B:

Thanks for your question.

Less than one millimeter, certainly, from furthest forward to furthest
back.  I'd estimate 0.7 mm.

Brett
Joel M. Eichen - 21 Sep 2005 02:11 GMT
>> The teeth loose or not?
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>They don't seem loose to me, but the dentist says they are.

If they were my teeth, if I bit a bagel and they stayed in I'd tell
the doc to go away.

Joel

> I suspect a
>dentist measures looseness somewhat differently from a non-dentist.
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>
>Brett
gg6166@pacbell.net - 21 Sep 2005 02:39 GMT
> >Hi Joel:
> >
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>
> Joel

Thanks Joel!

As a matter of fact, I bite a fair number of bagels these days,
courtesy of Noah!

http://www.noahs.com/index.cfm

(Though I actually prefer their onion "bialys" to bagels, even though
they tend to dump onion slivers mingled with poppy seeds all over the
car seat.)

Others tell me Einstein is the way to go:

http://www.einsteinbros.com/index.cfm

Though still others insist that no bagel worthy of the name can be
found anywhere outside NYC.

I guess if I understand the theory correctly (and no doubt my ignorance
of dentistry will show itself here in spades), if the teeth aren't
removed the deep cleaning may not cause the gum to stick to the tooth
tightly enough to prevent further gingivitis.  Hence, the teeth have to
get whacked for the well-being of their neighbors.

Corrections and comments are most welcome!

Brett
Amatus Cremona - 21 Sep 2005 15:01 GMT
> I guess if I understand the theory correctly (and no doubt my ignorance
> of dentistry will show itself here in spades), if the teeth aren't
> removed the deep cleaning may not cause the gum to stick to the tooth
> tightly enough to prevent further gingivitis.  Hence, the teeth have to
> get whacked for the well-being of their neighbors.

Huge variation in disease condition, progression and response to therapy.
There is no way to make an intelligent advisory statement without seeing you
IRL.  IF you are concerned, you need a second opinion IRL, from a
periodontist.

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>> >Hi Joel:
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> Brett
gg6166@pacbell.net - 22 Sep 2005 01:07 GMT
Thanks Amatus:

Of course, I believe you're correct: I know it's hard to give general
advice in such a case.  I guess I'm primarily trying to understand the
ideas involved.  My dedicated young dentist seems capable and caring,
but she is also very busy.  Her explanation, while I suspect it was
accurate, sounded more to me like a dentist talking to a dentist, even
though she tried to break it down for a layman.

Also, I guess I'm a little less likely to accept her advice since she's
a relatively new dentist.  If she had been "in the trenches" for 2
decades, I guess I'd be more likely to accept what she had to say - but
then again, maybe not!

Obviously, I'm letting what I want to hear influence my perception of
what is best to do (a very human thing, I suppose!)

Even so, thank you for your feedback!

Brett
Joel M. Eichen - 21 Sep 2005 23:20 GMT
>> >Hi Joel:
>> >
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>Thanks Joel!

SERIOUSLY, one occasion, I looked at some x-rays, told the patient the
remaining teeth were a goner, then the next visit proceeded to extract
them. With almost zero bone, they were rock hard. I could not get them
out.

I was thinking, "Oh what am I doing? There teeth are so solid."

I rechecked the x-rays six times.

Joel

>As a matter of fact, I bite a fair number of bagels these days,
>courtesy of Noah!
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>
>Brett
gg6166@pacbell.net - 22 Sep 2005 01:11 GMT
Hi Joel:

It's funny you should mention this, because I was thinking yesterday
about my vague memories of removing loose teeth as a child.  Back then,
I wanted to lose my first set of teeth, because it would enable me to
increase my "tooth collection", which I liked to show the kids at
school.

And I remember how hard it was to yank those teeth that were far more
wobbly than these teeth!  (And I had access to bagels even then!)

So I guess I'm just not on board with having these teeth yanked yet.
But again, I'm sure wishful thinking is also influencing my feeling
here.  I mean, who wants a partial plate, for heaven's sake?!

Thanks for your recollection!

Brett
Joel M. Eichen - 22 Sep 2005 02:45 GMT
>Hi Joel:
>
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>
>Brett

Sadly, it was not one of my finer moments ... but I learned my lesson
and others benefitted.
W_B - 22 Sep 2005 05:43 GMT
> I mean, who wants a partial plate, for heaven's sake?!

Those who wish to avoid a full denture.

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