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Torus Palatinus Removal

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Gypsy W - 16 Sep 2005 07:09 GMT
I have tori palatinus which is scheduled to be removed very soon. I'm going
in for impressions for an oral splint in 2 weeks. My questions are"

How painful is this surgery?

How painful is it after the surgery during recovery period?

What is the normal duration of this type of surgery?

How long will I need to wear the splint?

How long will it take to heal from the surgery.

How long will the pain  from surgery & healing process last?

Will I be able to eat? Or just drink liquids?

What else should I know?

I'm not looking forward to this procedure at all.
Joel M. Eichen - 16 Sep 2005 12:37 GMT
Hard to say, every one responds differently ....... from
what I hear, its no huge problem.

How large is the torus palatinus?

Joel M. Eichen DDS

>I have tori palatinus which is scheduled to be removed very soon. I'm going
>in for impressions for an oral splint in 2 weeks. My questions are"
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>I'm not looking forward to this procedure at all.
Gypsy W - 17 Sep 2005 00:26 GMT
The first torus is about 3/4 inch long, the second torus which is closer to
my throat is about 1 inch long. Both protrusions are about 1/2 inch thick.

>Hard to say, every one responds differently ....... from
>what I hear, its no huge problem.
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>>I'm not looking forward to this procedure at all.
Joel M. Eichen - 17 Sep 2005 02:28 GMT
>The first torus is about 3/4 inch long, the second torus which is closer to
>my throat is about 1 inch long. Both protrusions are about 1/2 inch thick.

It should be located at the deepest part of the palate ...... and
should exhibit a bilateral symmetry.

Joel

>>Hard to say, every one responds differently ....... from
>>what I hear, its no huge problem.
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>>>I'm not looking forward to this procedure at all.
Gypsy W - 17 Sep 2005 09:22 GMT
Joel, if by saying deepest part of the palate is referring to the high
central part then that is correct.
First one appears at the front directly behind where my teeth would be if I
had any & the second one begins about a 1/2 inch behind that towards the back
of my mouth or what I previously referred to as the throat area. Its like a
very bumpy roller coaster & quite annoying.

>>The first torus is about 3/4 inch long, the second torus which is closer to
>>my throat is about 1 inch long. Both protrusions are about 1/2 inch thick.
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>>>>I'm not looking forward to this procedure at all.
Joel M. Eichen - 17 Sep 2005 11:22 GMT
Yup, some are larger and more annoying ......

>Joel, if by saying deepest part of the palate is referring to the high
>central part then that is correct.
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>>>>>I'm not looking forward to this procedure at all.
Steve Bornfeld - 16 Sep 2005 15:03 GMT
> I have tori palatinus which is scheduled to be removed very soon. I'm going
> in for impressions for an oral splint in 2 weeks. My questions are"
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>
> I'm not looking forward to this procedure at all.

    What is the splint for?  I wouldn't associate the splint with the torus
removal.
    Usually the reason for a torus removal is that it is so large that it
will interfere with placement of a denture.  I've only seen a couple of
these in person.  It is preferable (and sometimes possible) to get the
tissue closed over the removed palatal bone.  However, the tissue tends
to be very thin and I understand it sometimes breaks down.
    I hope Dave will check in--he's the surgeon around here.  In any case,
most of the pain will be related to the soft tissue.  I'm sure you'll
want to be on a soft diet for a few days.
    Preferably, you'd ask these very legitimate questions of your surgeon,
who of course understands your situation better than I do.

Steve
W_B - 16 Sep 2005 16:26 GMT
>> I have tori palatinus which is scheduled to be removed very soon. I'm going
>> in for impressions for an oral splint in 2 weeks. My questions are"
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>Steve

The 'splint' is really a *stent* and is used to help prevent hematoma formation.
It doesn't cover the occlusals of the teeth, just the palate.
Makes it easier for the patient to eat during the healing phase.

YMMV
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W_B
Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Steven Bornfeld - 16 Sep 2005 18:39 GMT
>>>I have tori palatinus which is scheduled to be removed very soon. I'm going
>>>in for impressions for an oral splint in 2 weeks. My questions are"
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> YMMV

    Thanks George, I suspected it might be (though I haven't seen one used
for this application).

Steve

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>
> W_B
> Take out the G'RBAGE
> wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com

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Dave King - 16 Sep 2005 18:45 GMT
>>>>I have tori palatinus which is scheduled to be removed very soon. I'm going
>>>>in for impressions for an oral splint in 2 weeks. My questions are"
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>
>Steve

I only use em' for very large tori. These procedures can be painful
and every little bit helps.

Dave

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>> W_B
>> Take out the G'RBAGE
>> wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Gypsy W - 17 Sep 2005 00:40 GMT
All of you are so helpful. I think I already learned more than I knew before.
I don't do pain very well so this procedure really has me nervous.
The tori are very aggrevating and the rear one is already painful a good
portion of the time as it is.

>>>>>I have tori palatinus which is scheduled to be removed very soon. I'm going
>>>>>in for impressions for an oral splint in 2 weeks. My questions are"
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>>> Take out the G'RBAGE
>>> wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Gypsy W - 17 Sep 2005 23:40 GMT
>>>>>I have tori palatinus which is scheduled to be removed very soon. I'm going
>>>>>in for impressions for an oral splint in 2 weeks. My questions are"
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>>> Take out the G'RBAGE
>>> wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com

So what is the actual procedure for this? How much pain are we talking about?
I assume you mean pain after the surgery & not during. Will I be "knocked-
out" during this procedure or will I be aware of all the gruesome stuff
involved with this procedure? I want to know as much as I can about all this.
Tim Dixon - 17 Sep 2005 23:43 GMT
>>>>>>I have tori palatinus which is scheduled to be removed very soon. I'm
>>>>>>going
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> involved with this procedure? I want to know as much as I can about all
> this.

How come your surgeon hasn't informed you better?
Gypsy W - 18 Sep 2005 00:43 GMT
I can't answer that Tim.  Most of the doctors & dentists in my town don't
share  much information even when I ask questions. They pretty much treat
everything like its no big deal. And living in a small community I don't have
many options of going elsewhere.

>>>>>>>I have tori palatinus which is scheduled to be removed very soon. I'm
>>>>>>>going
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>How come your surgeon hasn't informed you better?
Tim Dixon - 18 Sep 2005 00:57 GMT
I'm certainly not suggesting you did anything wrong, but the surgeon really
should be the one to inform you of the risks vs. benefits, how the procedure
will be done, pain issues etc.

I would get an appt. with the surgeon to specifically discuss the issues of
the procedure.  I would write down all my questions and concerns and bring
them with me to ask during the visit.  Only then can you truly make an
informed decision, and believe me the surgeon is going to give you an
informed consent release to sign, so you need to be sure you know what you
are signing for.

Best of luck and keep us posted.

>I can't answer that Tim.  Most of the doctors & dentists in my town don't
> share  much information even when I ask questions. They pretty much treat
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>>How come your surgeon hasn't informed you better?
Gypsy W - 18 Sep 2005 01:23 GMT
Thanks Tim, I guess I didn't really know what to ask during the exam. I know
I should have the procedure though otherwise I put up with these annoying
lumps forever.  I tried finding info beforehand on the internet so I'd learn
a little more but wasnt too successful. I just recently found this wonderful
forum. I guess I also don't know what the risks are but the benefits of
having a normal mouth again seems appealing to me, guess I'll loose a lot of
excess weight too since I don't think I'll be eating much during the recovery.

>I'm certainly not suggesting you did anything wrong, but the surgeon really
>should be the one to inform you of the risks vs. benefits, how the procedure
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>>>How come your surgeon hasn't informed you better?
Gypsy W - 17 Sep 2005 00:28 GMT
From my understanding the splint (or stent) is to help hold the palette skin
in place after the surgery. I think the surgeon said he would be drilling
into my upper jawbone to hold it in place.

>>>>I have tori palatinus which is scheduled to be removed very soon. I'm going
>>>>in for impressions for an oral splint in 2 weeks. My questions are"
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>> Take out the G'RBAGE
>> wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
W_B - 19 Sep 2005 18:57 GMT
>>>    Preferably, you'd ask these very legitimate questions of your surgeon,
>>>who of course understands your situation better than I do.
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>Steve

Unfortunately I have been the patient, perio/endo surgery #8.
Eventually lost tooth, now have an implant.
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W_B
Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Gypsy W - 17 Sep 2005 00:46 GMT
The removal is primarily for placement of new dentures. My current upper
denture is in a horeshoe shape to avoid the torus but they broke & are
superglued together so I am getting a new set. I went to a few dentists for
opinions until I was able to find a surgeon. One dentist told me it would be
about a 6 week recovery.

>> I have tori palatinus which is scheduled to be removed very soon. I'm going
>> in for impressions for an oral splint in 2 weeks. My questions are"
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>
>Steve
Gypsy W - 17 Sep 2005 00:48 GMT
The surgeon really didn't say a whole lot other than...you wont feel a thing
during surgery. Well duh, I would hope not. But afterwards? Ieeeeeeeeee

>> I have tori palatinus which is scheduled to be removed very soon. I'm going
>> in for impressions for an oral splint in 2 weeks. My questions are"
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>
>Steve
Steven Bornfeld - 17 Sep 2005 03:55 GMT
> The surgeon really didn't say a whole lot other than...you wont feel a thing
> during surgery. Well duh, I would hope not. But afterwards? Ieeeeeeeeee

    Any surgeon worth his (her) salt will make sure you have adequate pain
control meds.  Having the surgical site covered should also help a lot.

Steve

>>>I have tori palatinus which is scheduled to be removed very soon. I'm going
>>>in for impressions for an oral splint in 2 weeks. My questions are"
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>>Steve

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Gypsy W - 17 Sep 2005 07:02 GMT
Thanks Steve, I sure hope so. Prior to getting my first set of dentures I
went thru 2 years of dental hell.
It was very difficult getting the dentist to double up on the coediene which
barely killed the pain. I guess after that experience I'm a bit paranoid
regarding mouth work.

>> The surgeon really didn't say a whole lot other than...you wont feel a thing
>> during surgery. Well duh, I would hope not. But afterwards? Ieeeeeeeeee
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>>>Steve
W_B - 19 Sep 2005 19:23 GMT
>> The surgeon really didn't say a whole lot other than...you wont feel a thing
>> during surgery. Well duh, I would hope not. But afterwards? Ieeeeeeeeee
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>Steve

agreed
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W_B
Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Gypsy W - 29 Oct 2005 01:26 GMT
OUCH OUCH OUCH - I had the surgery yesterday. Doubling up on the Vicodin.
I would have been happier too if I'd had general anethesia instead of a local
but my insurance wouldn't cover it. Nearly jumped out of the chair with those
shots. The stent doesnt seem to bother me so much other than a little hard to
talk but the rest of my mouth wants to die.

>>> The surgeon really didn't say a whole lot other than...you wont feel a thing
>>> during surgery. Well duh, I would hope not. But afterwards? Ieeeeeeeeee
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>Take out the G'RBAGE
>wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
mike50s - 24 Jul 2008 04:33 GMT
so gypsy - its been almost 3 years since the surgery - are you happy u had it?

How long did it take? I assume u did it in his office with a local - has ure
talking improved? and other noticable differences since surgery?

I have been diagnosed with torus palatinus and they want to operate.

thanks  Mike

>OUCH OUCH OUCH - I had the surgery yesterday. Doubling up on the Vicodin.
>I would have been happier too if I'd had general anethesia instead of a local
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>>Take out the G'RBAGE
>>wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
 
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