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Problems frm Max fresh/white toothpaste

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cozyhomelife - 09 Sep 2005 04:08 GMT
I thought this might help others who are in pain.   After I had my initial
work for my crown done, I ate, and seemed ok, then brushed my teeth and in a
little while was in extreme throbbing pain.   It didn't happen while
brushing, but a few minutes later, so I didn't immediately suspect it.   But
as I thought about how it had repeatedly happened over a couple of days, I
became suspicious of my Colgate Max fresh toothpaste (any of those extreme
fresh or whitening ones would be the same).   I looked for a different
toothpaste in the house, and came up with the normal colgate fresh with
whitening before this new suped up version.   I noticed an improvement right
away, still some pain, but not the screaming kind.   Yesterday I went to the
store and thinking about some old toothpaste I had seen years ago, that had
no mint in it and I pretty much hated.... but sounded good now.    I didn't
find it, and ended up looking at the paste for sensitive teeth.   I was sad
to see that most of them had EXTRA whitening or EXTRA mint in them, as I
felt that was the problem.   I did finally find Crest sensitivity ORGINAL,
that had both whitening and mint, but not EXTRA.   Maybe there are others
that don't have these things, but not at this store at this time.    Added
bonus is if any of the pain is from just a cold hot sensitivity, whether old
or newly acquired from the work, it helps that at the same time.
   Anyway, I wanted to tell everyone, that my pain level that was zinging
half my mouth went down to very low, and with it down, I was able to feel
just what was clearly coming from the tooth.   It was pain, but not
horrific.   I went back today and he filed the temp crown down some to see
if the problem is coming from it being too high and therefore, taking too
much pressure in a bitedown.   Maybe it won't be, I don't know, but at least
we can eliminate that as being the problem if it still hurts.
    I hope this info helps others who have had some kind of work done and
go home and don't realize that these strong toothpaste can really hurt areas
that have just been worked on.   I went from taking 2 tylenol+1 advil, to
not needing anything, just from changing toothpaste!
    Now I will be watching for any new developments about whether this
nerve is going to behave or turn ugly :)
Joel M. Eichen - 09 Sep 2005 09:10 GMT
>I thought this might help others who are in pain.   After I had my initial
>work for my crown done, I ate, and seemed ok, then brushed my teeth and in a
>little while was in extreme throbbing pain.   It didn't happen while
>brushing, but a few minutes later, so I didn't immediately suspect it.  

MY GUESS:

Pulpal reaction to the crown procedure.

SOLUTION, root canal therapy, either through the crown or by first
removing the crown ......

Time will tell .....

Joel M. Eichen DDS

DISCLAIMER: This is a guess, not a diagnosis!

> But
>as I thought about how it had repeatedly happened over a couple of days, I
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>whitening before this new suped up version.   I noticed an improvement right
>away, still some pain, but not the screaming kind.

Oh Jeez, this is a good adverisement for the scientific method
(double-blind studies) as opposed to using anecdotal experience for
conclusions!

Perhaps that is the most important lesson we learn through high
school, college, and professional school. Its an easy mistake to make,
and a very common one.

JE

>  Yesterday I went to the
>store and thinking about some old toothpaste I had seen years ago, that had
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>half my mouth went down to very low, and with it down, I was able to feel
>just what was clearly coming from the tooth.  

Acute pulpitis - - - -- > pulpal recrosis - - -- > periapical abscess!

> It was pain, but not
>horrific.   I went back today and he filed the temp crown down some to see
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>that have just been worked on.   I went from taking 2 tylenol+1 advil, to
>not needing anything, just from changing toothpaste!

Not bad! Time will tell. Tell us if in three months you develop a
periapical abscess, as evidenced by clinical signs and/or a periapical
radiograph. This takes me exactly two minutes in the office and the
fee for x-ray is $5. The diagnosis and the advice are free.

Joel

>     Now I will be watching for any new developments about whether this
>nerve is going to behave or turn ugly :)
cozyhomelife - 09 Sep 2005 15:49 GMT
Please don't bypass the info that I gave that I really think will help
others.    People who are having work done in their mouth may experience
severe pain from the escalated whitening and escalated mint in the modern
toothpastes.  My excrutiating pain was from just that.   I really think many
patients can benefit from this info, if only their dentists will alert them
to it.

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> >     Now I will be watching for any new developments about whether this
> >nerve is going to behave or turn ugly :)
 
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