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Flap - 08 Sep 2005 06:35 GMT Flap's Post:
If it is good for the goose......
http://flapsblog.blogspot.com/2005/03/dentalcomnet-to-close-or-shut-down.html
So, Justin you gonna shut DentalCom.net down?
Sell it to Howard Farran or just give it to him?
Flap
http://flapsblog.com
Administrator - 08 Sep 2005 06:48 GMT Flap. You are so full of it. And if you would like to know, I would GIV it to him provided that I setup an arcade. Not because I am a selfis person wanting to become rich, but because the best happiness in th world comes from making other people happy. Jesus once said to do nic things for other people, when they have no way of paying you back. It my spirituality that caused me to create dentalcom.net. That and n other reason
I sure dont get paid for it, and I have refused any ad on the site fro all 2 people. The guy who owns bestbuydental.com wanted to buy my site but I told him no too.
You wouldn't understand any of this stuff, would you flap. The onl thing you were bent on is giving dentalcom.net ads, so you could mak money
http://tinyurl.com/bl6x
http://www.dentalcom.net/forum/showthread.php?t=271
http://www.dentalcom.net/forum/showthread.php?t=285
I knew if I started a thread with your name in the title, calling you liar, that you would just do it back
I mean, hell, what better way to make my point that your an immatur liar who is twice my age
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Flap - 08 Sep 2005 06:50 GMT Justin Shafer's Post:
Flap. You are so full of it. And if you would like to know, I would GIVE it to him provided that I setup an arcade. Not because I am a selfish person wanting to become rich, but because the best happiness in the world comes from making other people happy. Jesus once said to do nice things for other people, when they have no way of paying you back. Its my spirituality that caused me to create dentalcom.net. That and no other reason.
I sure dont get paid for it, and I have refused any ad on the site from all 2 people. The guy who owns bestbuydental.com wanted to buy my site, but I told him no too.
You wouldn't understand any of this stuff, would you flap. The only thing you were bent on is giving dentalcom.net ads, so you could make money.
http://tinyurl.com/bl6xx
http://www.dentalcom.net/forum /showthread.php?t=2719
http://www.dentalcom.net/forum /showthread.php?t=2856
I knew if I started a thread with your name in the title, calling you a liar, that you would just do it back.
I mean, hell, what better way to make my point that your an immature liar who is twice my age.
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Flap's Reply:
I will not hold your youth, lack of education or immaturity against you.
So, when you going to disable the SMD gateway hack?
Flap
http://flapsblog.com
Administrator - 08 Sep 2005 07:19 GMT Good. Only you would think that education has a bearing on someone heart. I bet you spit on bums when you get the chance, because of thei lack of education
You will know what happens to it. For all I know I could wake up an change my mind. Or howard may not like it, or he may like it and shuter down. Or he may like it, and I keep it up
Who knows.... All I know is that you dont have a say in it, anymore
Flap Wrote:
> Justin Shafer's Post > [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > http://flapsblog.co -- Administrato
Flap - 08 Sep 2005 07:30 GMT Justin Shafer's Post:
Good. Only you would think that education has a bearing on someones heart. I bet you spit on bums when you get the chance, because of their lack of education.
You will know what happens to it. For all I know I could wake up and change my mind. Or howard may not like it, or he may like it and I shuter down. Or he may like it, and I keep it up.
Who knows.... All I know is that you dont have a say in it, anymore.
Flap Wrote:
> Justin Shafer's Post:
> Flap. You are so full of it. And if you would like to know, I would > GIVE [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > my spirituality that caused me to create dentalcom.net. That and no > other reason.
> I sure dont get paid for it, and I have refused any ad on the site from > all 2 people. The guy who owns bestbuydental.com wanted to buy my site, > but I told him no too.
> You wouldn't understand any of this stuff, would you flap. The only > thing you were bent on is giving dentalcom.net ads, so you could make > money.
> http://tinyurl.com/bl6xx
> http://www.dentalcom.net/forum /showthread.php?t=2719
> http://www.dentalcom.net/forum /showthread.php?t=2856
> I knew if I started a thread with your name in the title, calling you a > liar, that you would just do it back.
> I mean, hell, what better way to make my point that your an immature > liar who is twice my age.
> -- > Administrator > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Administrator's Profile: http://dentalcom.net/forum/mem > ber.php?userid=1 > View this thread: http://dentalcom.net/forum/sho wthread.php?t=2857
> Flap's Reply:
> I will not hold your youth, lack of education or immaturity against > you.
> So, when you going to disable the SMD gateway hack?
> Flap
> http://flapsblog.com -- Administrator
Flap's Reply:
Who cares?
Flap
http://flapsblog.com
Administrator - 08 Sep 2005 08:36 GMT Hey Flap, notice not one single person from dentalcom has yet to bac you up on anything you say. One person has backed me up.
And thats like 1/4 of the people who can vouch
Gregory Cole, from California. Your a bad person
Flap Wrote:
> Justin Shafer's Post > [quoted text clipped - 75 lines] > > http://flapsblog.co -- Administrato
Dr. Steve - 08 Sep 2005 12:24 GMT Someone drop me an email when this gateway piece of sh.t is shut down. I am sick of the immaturity. My ten year old kid acts better than this soup lover and his school-yard buddy.
>Hey Flap, notice not one single person from dentalcom has yet to back >you up on anything you say. One person has backed me up. > >And thats like 1/4 of the people who can vouch. > >Gregory Cole, from California. Your a bad person. ``````````````````````` Stephen (What's a temporary?) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Administrator - 08 Sep 2005 13:40 GMT Dr. Steve..... Your in the same boat as flap. A total a.shole.
Your probably just as big as a liar.
Dr. Steve Wrote:
> Someone drop me an email when this gateway piece of **** is shut down. > I am sick of the immaturity. My ten year old kid acts better than [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Stephen (What's a temporary?) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Administrator - 08 Sep 2005 13:40 GMT Administrator Wrote:
> Dr. Steve..... Your in the same boat as flap. A total a.shole. > > Your probably just as big as a liar. Hey Steve, if you can gets letsconnect, joel, sue, and bill to drop the gateway, I would gladly do it.
Why in the hell do you think its still working anyways???
I dont like SMD. You guys are loosers. I enjoy posting at dentaltown.
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Sdores - 08 Sep 2005 13:54 GMT Hey that's uncalled for! Joel, you know better about Dr Steve. Cut the line and you all do your thing and leave SMD alone. This is ridiculous! Shame on you. UM MOM Susan
> Dr. Steve..... Your in the same boat as flap. A total a.shole. > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >> Stephen (What's a temporary?) >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joel M. Eichen - 08 Sep 2005 14:23 GMT YUP, Dr. Steve is a very good guy ....... no joke there. We could go on and on with all the help he provides patients, other dentists, etcx. He is responsible for the SMD study Club that meets in Troy Michigan and flies in international patients to perform procedures at no cost to them so SMD dentists can collaborate .....
In fact they still talk about him at the Troy Michigan Hilton Hotel ....
BELLBOY: "Hey! Did you see that crazy group of dentists discussing porcelain veneers until 4am in the lobby last year?"
Yeah Susan, thanks for reminding me .......
We owe Dr. Steve big time .... but guess what?
Justin is a similar kind of guy.
And Falp?
Well when he is not up in arms over something, he is a pretty decent guy too. And he is extremely knowledgeable about dentistry.
I hope some patients can tyoss out a few dental questions ...... and all these guys will shine ......
Joel
>Hey that's uncalled for! Joel, you know better about Dr Steve. Cut the >line and you all do your thing and leave SMD alone. This is ridiculous! [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >>> Stephen (What's a temporary?) >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Steven Fawks - 08 Sep 2005 19:32 GMT Dear Sir:
You obviously do not have any experience with the SMD'ers. As a whole we are (and have been) very tolerant and understanding. Dr. Steve has been kind and helpful to many people on this group. He certainly is not a total a.shole and I hope you get over your initial anger and realize your mistake.
Joel saw something good in your group and thought it might benefit both groups to have some interaction. You are finding out that 'your' group can be 'hijacked' and no longer represent the ideals that you started it with. That's what happens when you get a truly open site. Any one person has very limited control.
SMD'ers have learned to deal with this type of behavior on a fairly routine basis. We don't share your frustration because SMD doesn't 'belong' to us. We use the delete key and block some offensive posters on an individual basis as needed.
Good luck, Fawks
> Dr. Steve..... Your in the same boat as flap. A total a.shole. > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >>Stephen (What's a temporary?) >>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Stovepipe - 09 Sep 2005 17:02 GMT > Dear Sir: <snip>
> Dr. Steve has been kind and helpful to many people on this > group. He certainly is not a total a.shole Those are two understatements above, to say the very least.
Cheeers SP
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Joel M. Eichen - 09 Sep 2005 22:16 GMT >> Dear Sir: >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Cheeers >SP I know its meant as a compliment but somehow the second sentence just sits wrong with me!
Stovepipe - 10 Sep 2005 04:48 GMT > >> Dear Sir: > >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I know its meant as a compliment but somehow the second sentence just > sits wrong with me! HAA!!! I just saw it! I forgot to erase the total a.shole part!!! I must say it made me laugh! Obviously, what I meant to say was that I fully agree that DrS does more than his share of helping both patient and dentist alike, and so to state that he has been kind and helpful to many is by no means an exaggeration...
Or put another way, he is _more_ than just always a gentleman..... um... I mean that in being a complete gentleman, one should not jump to the conclusion that he becomes obnoxious in his morethangentlemanness...
Ummm.... and to say that it is an understatement to assert that he certainly is not a total a.shole could be construed as meaning that it is no exaggeration to state that he is not a total a.shole... Just in case there was any doubt.... So, then what _IS_ he?
I have it! DrS is:
A GREATER than total a.shole with certainty. With no exaggeration...
And again..... ummm.......
<sigh....>
OK, I'll shut up now, and proceed to surgically remove each foot surgically from my mouth....
Good Nite, all. ;-) SP
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Joel M. Eichen - 10 Sep 2005 11:07 GMT Joel wrote,
>> I know its meant as a compliment but somehow the second sentence just >> sits wrong with me! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >dentist alike, and so to state that he has been kind and helpful to many >is by no means an exaggeration... REPLY
That's like the old joke ......... I run into some guy and I tell him ........ "You know, those guys are wrong ..... you aren't NEARLY as bad as people say you are!"
<<This is humor>>
You must say it to the right person, not the wrong person ......
Joel
>Or put another way, he is _more_ than just always a gentleman..... um... >I mean that in being a complete gentleman, one should not jump to the [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >Good Nite, all. ;-) >SP Vaughn - 10 Sep 2005 23:15 GMT >> >> Dr. Steve has been kind and helpful to many people on this >> >> group. He certainly is not a total a.shole
> Ummm.... and to say that it is an understatement to assert that he > certainly is not a total a.shole could be construed as meaning that it > is no exaggeration to state that he is not a total a.shole... Just in > case there was any doubt.... So, then what _IS_ he? Not total, certainly not total! I think we are in total agreement here.
Seriously, the Mancusos are the only smd family I have yet had the pleasure to meet in person (other than my own family of course) and I would love to have them as neighbors.
Vaughn
W_B - 12 Sep 2005 20:02 GMT > Not total, certainly not total! I think we are in total agreement here. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Vaughn What ? You like the sound of two stroke Saabs ? --
W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Vaughn Simon - 12 Sep 2005 20:35 GMT > > Not total, certainly not total! I think we are in total agreement here. > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > What ? You like the sound of two stroke Saabs ? Not to mention that 2-stroke aroma...kinda reminds one of a 1970 Yamaha.
Vaughn
Dr. Steve - 12 Sep 2005 23:08 GMT You two really know how to make a guy feel special!
>> On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:15:04 GMT, "Vaughn" ><vaughnsimonHATESSPAM@att.fake.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >Vaughn ``````````````````````` Stephen (What's a temporary?) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Steven Fawks - 13 Sep 2005 16:40 GMT We're doing our best.
<G> Fawks
> You two really know how to make a guy feel special! W_B - 14 Sep 2005 17:30 GMT ring ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding
>We're doing our best. > ><G> >Fawks > >> You two really know how to make a guy feel special! --
W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Dr. Steve - 15 Sep 2005 12:59 GMT ring ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding Bah Baaah Bamb ding ding ,,,,,,,,
The depth and frequncey of the BAAH and the BAMB sounds are directly proportional to the amount of ssot built up in the exhaust system. Sometimes the pipe fills up with so much carbon build-up that you cannot squeeze a pencil into the lumen anymore. Of course, performance is not very good at that point. I am about due to remove the expansion chamber and clean out the soot from it. Might convert to dual pipes while I am at it.
>>We're doing our best. >> >><G> >>Fawks >> >>> You two really know how to make a guy feel special! ``````````````````````` Stephen (What's a temporary?) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Steven Fawks - 15 Sep 2005 14:11 GMT If that nets a 15% gain in HP......wait a minute....nevermind, too many decimal points.
Fawks
> ring ding ding ding ding ding ding ding > ding ding Bah Baaah > Bamb ding ding ,,,,,,,, Might convert
> to dual pipes while I am at it. W_B - 15 Sep 2005 16:47 GMT >ring ding ding ding ding ding ding ding >ding ding Bah Baaah [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >the expansion chamber and clean out the soot from it. Might convert >to dual pipes while I am at it. Duals are a great idea. Most V-twins have them. Make 'em big as you can.
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W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Dr. Steve - 15 Sep 2005 17:40 GMT >>ring ding ding ding ding ding ding ding >>ding ding Bah Baaah [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >Most V-twins have them. >Make 'em big as you can. For this application the dual pipes are between the single expansion chamber and the single muffler with one pipe exiting the mufler in the back. The dual pipes apparently help the expansion chamber "tune" the backpressure with less influence from the rear mufler.
``````````````````````` Stephen (What's a temporary?) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
W_B - 13 Sep 2005 18:32 GMT >> On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:15:04 GMT, "Vaughn" ><vaughnsimonHATESSPAM@att.fake.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >Vaughn "I love the smell of 2-stroke oil in the morning, it smells like... victory"
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Stovepipe - 14 Sep 2005 04:52 GMT First Vaughn said:
> > Not to mention that 2-stroke aroma...kinda reminds one of a 1970 > >Yamaha. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Take out the G'RBAGE > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Naaaaah.... do it right:
"I LOVE THE SMELL OF 2-STROKE OIL IN THE MORNING, IT SMELLS LIKE...
VICTORY!!!!
..... WE'RE GONNA WIN THIS LOTTERY... AH KNOW IT...."
<... and W_B swaggers away over the dead oil cans, leaving Martin Sheen looking after him incredulously...>
Cheers SP
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Dr. Steve - 14 Sep 2005 14:36 GMT >>> On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:15:04 GMT, "Vaughn" >><vaughnsimonHATESSPAM@att.fake.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >"I love the smell of 2-stroke oil in the morning, >it smells like... victory" Me too! It smells like,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,
um,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
well, it smells, like my car. ``````````````````````` Stephen (What's a temporary?) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
W_B - 12 Sep 2005 16:04 GMT >>> Dear Sir: >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >I know its meant as a compliment but somehow the second sentence just >sits wrong with me! Yes, it implies that Dr. Steve is at least a partial a**hole. Which may well be the intended meaning. <G> --
W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Stovepipe - 12 Sep 2005 16:51 GMT > >>> Dear Sir: > >>> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Which may well be the intended meaning. <G> > -- See my reply to JME: I really put my feet in my mouth (jokingly). ;-)
SP
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carabelli - 08 Sep 2005 13:59 GMT > Someone drop me an email when this gateway piece of sh.t is shut down. > I am sick of the immaturity. My ten year old kid acts better than > this soup lover and his school-yard buddy. What he said.
carabelli
Joel M. Eichen - 08 Sep 2005 14:23 GMT >> Someone drop me an email when this gateway piece of sh.t is shut down. >> I am sick of the immaturity. My ten year old kid acts better than [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >carabelli How is Salvatore?
Dr. Steve - 08 Sep 2005 15:04 GMT >>What he said. >> >>carabelli > >How is Salvatore? He is doing great. He went back to school this week and is loving it. We are trying to plan his birthday party right now. He turns ten very, very soon. Family haircuts last night, and he kept reminding me how his pile of clipped hair on the floor was so much larger than mine was. Tonight we have the first meeting of the year with his school orchestra teacher. I was not too impressed last year, so we shall see what she has planned for the kids this year. ``````````````````````` Stephen (What's a temporary?) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Joel M. Eichen - 08 Sep 2005 15:11 GMT Excellent ...... I still remember all the fond stories you tell about your family.
Joel
>>>What he said. >>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >Stephen (What's a temporary?) >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ dr shad j lewis (via google) - 08 Sep 2005 15:24 GMT Dr. Steve is ALWAYS a gentleman.
Joel M. Eichen - 08 Sep 2005 15:35 GMT >Dr. Steve is ALWAYS a gentleman. As is Steve Bornfeld ...... and .....
Shad Lewis!
Hey guys!
How about a practice administration thread?
We got the experts right here at SMD.
Joel
Dr. Steve - 08 Sep 2005 16:51 GMT Thank you for the kind words, Joel.
>Excellent ...... I still remember all the fond stories you tell about >your family. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >>Stephen (What's a temporary?) >>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ``````````````````````` Stephen (What's a temporary?) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 08 Sep 2005 15:51 GMT >>>What he said. >>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Stephen (What's a temporary?) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ He lets you have his hair cut? Wow!
Steve
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Dr. Steve - 08 Sep 2005 16:54 GMT He actually insists on getting regular haircuts. He wants a traditional cut as well. No brush cuts, no shorter on the sides, etc. I figure peer pressure at that preppy school he goes to.
The kid wears a white shirt and tie to school every day and I wear these goofy pijamas. Go figure.
>>>>What he said. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >Steve ``````````````````````` Stephen (What's a temporary?) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 08 Sep 2005 17:08 GMT > He actually insists on getting regular haircuts. He wants a > traditional cut as well. No brush cuts, no shorter on the sides, etc. > I figure peer pressure at that preppy school he goes to. > > The kid wears a white shirt and tie to school every day and I wear > these goofy pijamas. Go figure. Are you an embarassment to him, as I am to Lauren? (especially when I sing in public).
Steve
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Dr. Steve - 08 Sep 2005 17:50 GMT Boys seem to be more forgiving than girls. He does like to remind me that our music teacher says he has more talent than I do. He has discovered that he gets lots of *good* attention (especially from the females) when I pick him up from school in the Saab or one of the Triumphs. So,,,,,, I am still cool if I pick him up from school.
>> He actually insists on getting regular haircuts. He wants a >> traditional cut as well. No brush cuts, no shorter on the sides, etc. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Steve ``````````````````````` Stephen (What's a temporary?) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
W_B - 08 Sep 2005 19:27 GMT >> He actually insists on getting regular haircuts. He wants a >> traditional cut as well. No brush cuts, no shorter on the sides, etc. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Steve Maybe you should attend the Gene Simmons School of Rock... --
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Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 08 Sep 2005 19:49 GMT >>>He actually insists on getting regular haircuts. He wants a >>>traditional cut as well. No brush cuts, no shorter on the sides, etc. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Take out the G'RBAGE > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Tongue exercises?
Steve
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W_B - 08 Sep 2005 23:22 GMT >>>>He actually insists on getting regular haircuts. He wants a >>>>traditional cut as well. No brush cuts, no shorter on the sides, etc. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> Maybe you should attend the Gene Simmons School of Rock... >> --
>Tongue exercises? > >Steve Yikes !!!
Was talking about his new TV show... --
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W_B - 08 Sep 2005 19:26 GMT >He actually insists on getting regular haircuts. He wants a >traditional cut as well. No brush cuts, no shorter on the sides, etc. >I figure peer pressure at that preppy school he goes to. > >The kid wears a white shirt and tie to school every day and I wear >these goofy pijamas. Go figure. Hey !
Worked long and hard so that I could wear pajamas to work...
oops, make that *scrubs* <hehe> --
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W_B - 08 Sep 2005 19:20 GMT >>>How is Salvatore? >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Steve It's a small job.
<VBSEG> --
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Vaughn Simon - 08 Sep 2005 16:33 GMT > Someone drop me an email when this gateway piece of sh.t is shut down. > I am sick of the immaturity. My ten year old kid acts better than > this soup lover and his school-yard buddy. Actually, this has nothing to do with the gateway, this is just two adults acting like children. We don't care who "lied" to whom, this is not a wrestling ring and we have no desire to view a grudge match between two individuals. Private e-mail is a much better place for this type of stuff. My opinion today is that if "flap" and the "administrator" vacated smd for good, it could not be too soon for me.
Vaughn
Tim Dixon - 08 Sep 2005 13:52 GMT Flap take it to e-mail. This doesn't belong here.
> Flap's Post: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > http://flapsblog.com
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