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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / September 2005I don't feel confident about my teeth (see the picture)
The picture below shows that my incisors point to the right side. http://members.lycos.co.uk/wodesite/cool_portrait.jpg I think the situation is pretty bad. I just had braces on for one month. I want to correct two things: 1. Protruding incisors. 2. Straighten my teeth so that they point straight to the ground (when I stand straight of course). Will the brace help me achieve my goals? I don't feel confident. I am a layman to orthodontics. But I don't think that my orthodontist really adjusts the braces/wire accordingly. His nurses simply put the brace on and tighten the wire. That's it. To my understanding, the force of the wire upon each tooth should be precisely adjusted according to where the particular tooth is to be moved to, right? You are in luck. We have some excellent orthodontists on this board. have printed and mailed your photo (U.S. Mail) to one of them becaus he does not like to look at images on the internet. He may have had on or two bad experiences, I do not know. I have reposted your photo on the DentalCom.Net site. By the way, nic sunglasses Dude! PS~ I agree with you! Joel Joel M. Eichen DDS . [image: http://members.lycos.co.uk/wodesite/cool_portrait.jpg] . antonyliu2002@yahoo.com Wrote: > The picture below shows that my incisors point to the right side. > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > force of the wire upon each tooth should be precisely adjusted > according to where the particular tooth is to be moved to, right -- Joel34 Haha, fortunately, I was wearing my sunglasses. What do you mean by "you are in luck"? And are you serioius when you say that you have printed them out and mailed it to some orthodontist? For what? Will the brace help correct my dental problems? > You are in luck. We have some excellent orthodontists on this board. I > have printed and mailed your photo (U.S. Mail) to one of them because [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > Joel344's Profile: http://dentalcom.net/forum/member.php?userid=12 > View this thread: http://dentalcom.net/forum/showthread.php?t=2841 I'm not a dentist or anything, just wondering about your picture and how someone else might be able to help you. I notice there are lines drawn on it that are probably supposed to show a straight line of where you think your teeth should fall. The only thing that worries me about the picture is that it is not straight on... I mean your face is from an angle and so it's hard to be absolutely sure how they are lining up on a picture that is 2 dimensional and from a side angle. Good luck. ------ >The picture below shows that my incisors point to the right side. http://members.lycos.co.uk/wodesite/cool_portrait.jpg >I'm not a dentist or anything, just wondering about your picture and how >someone else might be able to help you. I notice there are lines drawn on >it that are probably supposed to show a straight line of where you think >your teeth should fall. Dang! Lines? I was wondering what that was coming out of his nose ...... Joel >The only thing that worries me about the picture >is that it is not straight on... I mean your face is from an angle and so [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >http://members.lycos.co.uk/wodesite/cool_portrait.jpg > I mean your face is from an angle and so > it's hard to be absolutely sure how they are lining up on a picture that > is > 2 dimensional and from a side angle. Actually the face is turned to the left and the head is tipped to the right. The long line follows the distorted outline of the nose (since the face is not turned towards the camera. The short line almost follows the midline of the soft tissues, but is not accurate either. If you look at the philtrum, the centrals appear to be slightly to the right of midline--but, who can be certain from this picture? To Mr. Liu: Don't sweat the small stuff. Let your orthodontist do what he has been trained to do. Most of the necessary corrections are designed into the bracket. The orthodontist positions the bracket properly, and the staff simply keep changing the wire or elastics to increase the tension gradually. Your orthodontist will be monitoring progress and make any course corrections needed along the path to meeting your goal.  Signature/ Amatus / > I'm not a dentist or anything, just wondering about your picture and how > someone else might be able to help you. I notice there are lines drawn [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > http://members.lycos.co.uk/wodesite/cool_portrait.jpg OK, that's good. It makes me feel better. But the thing is that my orthodontist should be aware of what dental problems I wanna address. I don't know if he is. Can you have him log onto www.dentalcom.net so's we can beat him up a bit? We are bored. Joel >OK, that's good. It makes me feel better. But the thing is that my >orthodontist should be aware of what dental problems I wanna address. >I don't know if he is. Wouldn't that have been something you made a point to tell him when you went to see him about getting braces??? SignatureHappiness doesn't come from having things, it comes from *having things you can find* :) > OK, that's good. It makes me feel better. But the thing is that my > orthodontist should be aware of what dental problems I wanna address. > I don't know if he is. I don't understand how he couldn't be aware of what you want. Didn't you tell him? If not, why not? You should be asking your orthodontist these questions, not us, who can't see you and don't know the particulars of your specific case. If your orthodontist doesn't know what you want, how could you expect him/her to "correct" what you want corrected? This really seems very strange to me -- that you would ask complete strangers, many of whom are not even dentists, and expect them to be able to give an opinion on this without examining you, or seeing your skull x-rays [which I'll assume your orthodontist took] before treatment began. Talk to the orthodontist!! > OK, that's good. It makes me feel better. But the thing is that my > orthodontist should be aware of what dental problems I wanna address. > I don't know if he is. >I don't understand how he couldn't be aware of what you want. Didn't you >tell him? If not, why not? R E P L Y Wait a minute, plenty of dentists ,,, wait check that ,,, plenty of people have their ears plugged up so it seems! Joel >You should be asking your orthodontist these >questions, not us, who can't see you and don't know the particulars of your [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> orthodontist should be aware of what dental problems I wanna address. >> I don't know if he is. Oh, I kinda suspect that my orthodontist is only aware of my protruding problem. But I am gonna show him how my incisors point to the side so that he could probably correct this problem as well. I didn't know that how brackets are positioned on each tooth is crucial. But your suggestion makes me more confident about my orthodontist, a doctor in his 60s, practicing orthodontics for 30+ years. >Haha, fortunately, I was wearing my sunglasses. > >What do you mean by "you are in luck"? And are you serioius when you >say that you have printed them out and mailed it to some orthodontist? >For what? Oh I got to explain. We have some traditional, but very fine dentists here who believe usenet should only be accessed through newsreaders that are only text-based. So the dentists, the ones I have most confidence in, cannot see the picture! Jeez, how can an orthodontist offer an opinion without looking at your photo? PS~ I even tried chopping the photo into three sections because of size and sending it through UUNet. It appears on the other side as text, but can be cut-and-pasted back into a jpg, with lots of effort. I just prefer to print and send it trhrough the mail, like PHOTOS WERE MEANT TO be sent. NOW THAT is tradition! (Whatever that means, I am quoting here ,,,,,,,,,, affectionately quoting, but in a mocking sense). Joel >Will the brace help correct my dental problems? > [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] >> Joel344's Profile: http://dentalcom.net/forum/member.php?userid=12 >> View this thread: http://dentalcom.net/forum/showthread.php?t=2841 >We have some traditional, but very fine dentists here who believe >usenet should only be accessed through newsreaders that are only >text-based. So the dentists, the ones I have most confidence in, >cannot see the picture! Welll there iare formal and informal ways to rectify that You can formally apply fro sci.med.dentistry.binaraies Or you can simply convince some one with a news server to carry alt.sci.med.dentistry.binaraies and then ask all interested parties to ask there news hosts to carry the group Binaries (pictures) on usenet are part of usenet history >>We have some traditional, but very fine dentists here who believe >>usenet should only be accessed through newsreaders that are only [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Binaries (pictures) on usenet are part of usenet history To post a picture, upload a compressed (jpg) copy to www.tinypic.com and then embed the url with [ i m g ] tags. [ i m g ] your URL.com [ / i m g ] without the spaces! george root(22/7) said: > >Welll there iare formal and informal ways to rectify that > > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > without the spaces! You don't even have to do that anymore: they give you the link, the img and src= versions automatically; you just have to cut and paste. SP SignatureTake out the TRASH to reply > PS~ I even tried chopping the photo into three sections because of > size and sending it through UUNet. It appears on the other side as [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Joel TinyPics????? SP SignatureTake out the TRASH to reply >> PS~ I even tried chopping the photo into three sections because of >> size and sending it through UUNet. It appears on the other side as [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >TinyPics????? >SP This all occurred long before Marc Andreeson was in kindergarten! I think what you want is "Lingual Version Teeth" It is not very common in the majority of the population. Inscisors normally should come out at about 15 to 20 degree angle but if you do not like this then you teeth would need to be root torqued and made slightly thinner ie. more spaces to bring them in. If the bone allows this may be possible, if not it could be difficult to acheive with just ortho, you may want to consider veneers. > The picture below shows that my incisors point to the right side. > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > force of the wire upon each tooth should be precisely adjusted > according to where the particular tooth is to be moved to, right? >I think what you want is "Lingual Version Teeth" It is not very common >in the majority of the population. Inscisors normally should come out [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >not it could be difficult to acheive with just ortho, you may want to >consider veneers. REPLY Antony's problem is a prognathic maxilla and a retrognathic mandible. This is kind of common particularly amongst many sub-populations. Antony wants to have a more westernized smile. Am I on the right track? If I am, we can go forward with some suggestions ....... Joel M. Eichen DDS Joely >> The picture below shows that my incisors point to the right side. >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >> force of the wire upon each tooth should be precisely adjusted >> according to where the particular tooth is to be moved to, right? Hi, Joel, I googled a little bit about prognathic maxilla and retrognathic mandible coz they are kinda technical to me. I am not sure if I have a retrognathic mandible. But it is almost certain that I have a bad prognathic maxilla. You would see better if I post a 1/2 sideview picture of me. Is prognathic maxilla problem correctable through braces? BTW, how would you define a "more westernized smile" please? Many western people also have bad prognathic maxilla and/or retrognathic mandible problems, and hence have bad smiles. :) >Hi, Joel, I googled a little bit about prognathic maxilla and >retrognathic mandible coz they are kinda technical to me. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Is prognathic maxilla problem correctable through braces? REPLY I am not sure ... perhaps Carabelli can help out. He is orthodontist. Joel >BTW, how would you define a "more westernized smile" please? Many >western people also have bad prognathic maxilla and/or retrognathic >mandible problems, and hence have bad smiles. :) True, true. I did not mean to be an overgeneralizer ...... I just checked the web for "Lingual Version" and figured out what it is. It is also known as linguoclusion, right? From the definition of linguoclusion at multiple pages http://www.google.com/search?q=linguoclusion&svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tab=iw , it looks like that is not what I want. I want straight teeth. But I think my Daddie may have such a linguoclusion problem. My daddie was handsome when he was young, though, much better than me. > The picture below shows that my incisors point to the right side. > > http://members.lycos.co.uk/wodesite/cool_portrait.jpg > > I think the situation is pretty bad. You are kidding right? Your teeth might look like they need work (to a dentist) but they look fine to the rest of the world. As long as your teeth don't stink then don't waste you time worrying. You are right, I speak and eat pretty well with them. But I think I look silly with the little bit protruding teeth. My lips don't close very well because of the protruding teeth. Plus, my sideview looks very bad. Well, you may say that my frontview doesn't look good either. I just wanna try somehow to make me look better. :) The problem is inherited from my Mom whose protruding problem is much worse. > > The picture below shows that my incisors point to the right side. > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > dentist) but they look fine to the rest of the world. > As long as your teeth don't stink then don't waste you time worrying. |
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