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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / September 2005Blogging for Katrina Relief
I know some of you in SMD may consider this spam but the cause is worthy and profound. Over 700 bloggers from 11 countries are sponsoring today as Blogging for Katrina Relief Day for the victims of Hurricane Katrina. Flap's charity is Catholic Charities and its link is here: http://www.catholiccharitiesusa.org/news/katrina.cfm So get over to Flap's Blog and participate: http://flapsblog.com/?p=858 Or head over to Michelle Malkin's Blog here: http://michellemalkin.com/archives/003445.htm Please give. Flap knows you will be glad you did. President Bush has just announced a charitable relief effort to be lead by his father and President Clinton. Flap http://flapsblog.com > I know some of you in SMD may consider this spam but the cause is > worthy and profound. I suppose so but... Am I the only one who is starting to feel less and less charity in my heart the more I watch the actions of the people there? Have you read the news? They have had to effectively stop relief efforts because of the gangs of looters. Even had to stop flying rescue choppers and stop moving people from the stadium because the locals were shooting at the rescuers. I live in a hurricane-prone area myself and I honestly feel the pain of anyone who loses their home due to one; but there is a limit. Are these people worth saving? Is the city worth saving? Puzzled and a bit pissed; Vaughn RE. Flap's Charity Blog; New Orlean's Relief Kirk and I are giving through the Medtronic Foundation They match our donations. Good luck to you Flap Your efforts are worthy. -Su -- Su >> I know some of you in SMD may consider this spam but the cause is >> worthy and profound. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >anyone who loses their home due to one; but there is a limit. Are these >people worth saving? Is the city worth saving? Good questions. Few answers. How about those that said we were 'stingy' during the tsunami relief effort ? Are they helping us now ? >Puzzled and a bit pissed; >Vaughn Alot pissed, -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Flap's original post: I know some of you in SMD may consider this spam but the cause is worthy and profound. Over 700 bloggers from 11 countries are sponsoring today as Blogging for Katrina Relief Day for the victims of Hurricane Katrina. Flap's charity is Catholic Charities and its link is here: http://www.catholiccharitiesus a.org/news/katrina.cfm So get over to Flap's Blog and participate: http://flapsblog.com/?p=858 Or head over to Michelle Malkin's Blog here: http://michellemalkin.com/arch ives/003445.htm Please give. Flap knows you will be glad you did. President Bush has just announced a charitable relief effort to be lead by his father and President Clinton. Flap http://flapsblog.com I think we must all get over any feelings otherwise and just contribute all that we can. Flap and YOU ALL know that you will be happy you have contributed. Flap http://flapsblog.com "How about those that said we were 'stingy' during the tsunami relief effort ? Are they helping us now ?" Vaughn has a point, but it's just silly to expect the third world countries hit by the tsunami to return the kind of money we sent there, especially when the help they need still hasn't reached most of the people who most need it. It's going to be years before areas destroyed by the tsunami are ready to give back to those who helped them. pellmellwillynilly@hotmail.com Wrote: > "How about those that said we were 'stingy' during the tsunami relief > effort ? ?Are they helping us now ?" [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > people who most need it. It's going to be years before areas destroyed > by the tsunami are ready to give back to those who helped them. A good bit of my family has been directly affected by this storm and I can tell you, we can and do take care of our own in cases like these. Albeit, we've helped OPEC and OPEP countries like Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, Mexico, Kuwait, and so on. Our refining capacities in "Cancer Alley" (the refineries off the mouth of the Mississippi River that produce about 30% of our fuel and oil products) are currently down, but not too seriously affected. OTOH, a lot of the platforms in the Gulf have been seriously damaged and these platforms cannot be brought back as easily. These platforms also provide about a third of our crude oil in the U.S. Tell me... With gas at over $3.00 a gallon, are these oil rich countries tying to help us? Do we have anything from them in this time of need or do we need to pay them $70.00 a barrel since our national supply has dwindled by a third? We built their wells, their water supplies, their schools, their infrastructure… Where is the payback??? Sorry, not trying to incite people here but this is definitely food for thought. -B  Signaturebillkatz Hey Bill! "Them" is us. Restated, them is "U.S." We are a huge producer and EXPORTER of oil. Just ask George Bush and company! Joel >Tell me... With gas at over $3.00 a gallon, are these oil rich >countries tying to help us? Do we have anything from them in this time >of need or do we need to pay them $70.00 a barrel since our national >supply has dwindled by a third? We built their wells, their water >supplies, their schools, their infrastructure⦠Where is the >payback??? > pellmellwillynilly@hotmail.com Wrote: > > "How about those that said we were 'stingy' during the tsunami relief [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > -B Here's what one priest had to say on a related subject. It seems apt here as well. "Gasoline in Cinti. today is $3.19 a gallon for regular unleaded. They assure us that things will be 'back to normal in a couple of months.' What is normal? Normal is that our nation has been able to seize incredibly more than our share of this and many other resources, keeping the prices artificially low, but only for us. But that is not normal. Sooner or later our blip on the screen will have to even out." (Note: Europeans have been buying gas for $8/gallon for some time now.) > Tell me... With gas at over $3.00 a gallon, are these oil richcountries >tying to help us? Up to 1.474$ CDN per liter here today. SP SignatureTake out the TRASH to reply A little higher than here, around $1.35 for the ones I passed today. They have been dropping down at night, gonna take a tour around the block and see if I can pick up some. Either to fill or grab a bit while watching. I'll post current price when I get back. Personally I think we are being robbed. Crude prices have only risen about 15% a barrel, while gas prices have risen in the 30 - 50% range. OTOH, I stumbled across a bit of humour for those PO'ed about the price. http://www.bryantrv.com/images/gas.jpeg SignatureRoy rem NADA to reply | > Tell me... With gas at over $3.00 a gallon, are these oil richcountries | >tying to help us? | | Up to 1.474$ CDN per liter here today. | SP Found some @ $1.291 CDN / L. Most were about the same. Asked the kid at the counter if it the rumours about it being cheaper in the evening were true. He said to come before 11:00 PM. SignatureRoy rem NADA to reply |A little higher than here, around $1.35 for the ones I passed today. They have | been dropping down at night, gonna take a tour around the block and see if I can [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] || Up to 1.474$ CDN per liter here today. || SP > Found some @ $1.291 CDN / L. Most were about the same. Asked the kid at the > counter if it the rumours about it being cheaper in the evening were true. He > said to come before 11:00 PM. Funny thing here: all the gas bars are covering their signs. 'Guess that means you have to stop in to find out what they have decided to charge at that particular hour... SP SignatureTake out the TRASH to reply >A little higher than here, around $1.35 for the ones I passed today. They have >been dropping down at night, gonna take a tour around the block and see if I can [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Personally I think we are being robbed. Crude prices have only risen about 15% a >barrel, while gas prices have risen in the 30 - 50% range. It's about the refined product. Have you checked the cost of a gallon (US) of 30-wt non-detergent ? Funny, it hasn't risen mutch. There has not been a new petroleum refinery built in the US in Twenty-Five (25) years. Stupid if you ask me... Oh, wait... No one did ! >OTOH, I stumbled across a bit of humour for those PO'ed about the price. >http://www.bryantrv.com/images/gas.jpeg Cute. -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE I already posted the photos about the bus that runs on used French Fry oil from McDonald's ....... they just our it in strained of course. The old fries can clog the carburetor. It was parked near Passyunk Square Triangle. Joel >>A little higher than here, around $1.35 for the ones I passed today. They have >>been dropping down at night, gonna take a tour around the block and see if I can [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >Cute. >> Tell me... With gas at over $3.00 a gallon, are these oil richcountries >>tying to help us? > >Up to 1.474$ CDN per liter here today. >SP WoW that's a lot less since the exchange rate is fluctuating here lately. Oh wait, liter v. gallon... nevermind <hehe> BTW did you know that CAN is the #1 import source of oil for the US ? Mexico and Venezuela are #2 and #3, not sure of the order. Chavez is a dictator and a communist. Maybe Pat Robertson was right ? -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE > Maybe Pat Robertson was right ? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > Take out the G'RBAGE Our Paul Martin is too stooopid to be a dictator. We are on the verge of a tax revolt here; at least _I_ am... Cheers SP SignatureTake out the TRASH to reply Sorry guys, but high gasoline prices may be good for the country. Did you ever notice how many Hummers, SUVs, and huge behemoths tool around town? C'Mon ......... if its still America, you gots to pay ....... That's so wasteful of .... well of everything. I prefer MAG-LEV trains, magnetic levitation, off the rails, as in Japan, SENSIBLE work locations unlike here where the New Jersey people travel 20 miles west to King of Prussia while the King of Prussia people travel twenty miles east to New Jersey ......... etc. Joel >> Tell me... With gas at over $3.00 a gallon, are these oil richcountries >>tying to help us? > >Up to 1.474$ CDN per liter here today. >SP > Sorry guys, but high gasoline prices may be good for the country. Did > you ever notice how many Hummers, SUVs, and huge behemoths tool around > town? C'Mon ......... if its still America, you gots to pay ....... > > That's so wasteful of .... well of everything. Massive Seg-Way and bicycle campaign. > I prefer MAG-LEV trains, magnetic levitation, off the rails, as in > Japan, SENSIBLE work locations unlike here where the New Jersey people > travel 20 miles west to King of Prussia while the King of Prussia > people travel twenty miles east to New Jersey ......... etc. They should meet in the middle and bounce off each other back homeward. good to wake ya up in the mornin'. We could also hang magnetically from the rails via magnetized aluminum beanies on the haid... Then we could travel by being blown by the wind, and we'd be protected from those psyhogenic neuro-kromptillator things that keep popping up in spam here and there. Or we could do the same and have the 350mV per Am power little motors that pull us around under the magnetic rails... > Joel Just a thot.... SP SignatureTake out the TRASH to reply > Massive Seg-Way and bicycle campaign. I got to ride a Seg-Way on Saturday. Signature/ Amatus / > >> Sorry guys, but high gasoline prices may be good for the country. Did [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > SP > > Massive Seg-Way and bicycle campaign. > > I got to ride a Seg-Way on Saturday. > > -- Lucky violinist; I never have... They say it's easy: just lean the handle bars the way you want to go. Is that right? Also, how do you stop? Thanks SP SignatureTake out the TRASH to reply Where do you guys get to ride them? I keep looking for little old ladies so I knock them off their Seg-Ways and try them out . Joel >> > Massive Seg-Way and bicycle campaign. >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Thanks >SP >They say it's easy: just lean the > handle bars the way you want to go. Is that right? Also, how do you > stop? You lean slightly forward to go forward, straighten up to stop and lean back to go in reverse. You have a twist grip for the left had which steers right and left. Tiny little movements take you where you want to go. Movements are so tiny that you feel like you are just "thinking" where you want to go and the device takes you there. Very neat!! Signature/ Amatus / > >> > Massive Seg-Way and bicycle campaign. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Thanks > SP > You lean slightly forward to go forward, straighten up to stop and lean back > to go in reverse. You have a twist grip for the left had which steers right > and left. Tiny little movements take you where you want to go. Movements > are so tiny that you feel like you are just "thinking" where you want to go > and the device takes you there. Very neat!! Multi-gyroscopic action that you're influencing, I think.Too bad they never became popular as transportation. They do use them for city tours though. SP SignatureTake out the TRASH to reply >> You lean slightly forward to go forward, straighten up to stop and lean back >> to go in reverse. You have a twist grip for the left had which steers right [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >though. >SP Too expensive. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > >Multi-gyroscopic action that you're influencing, I think.Too bad they > >never became popular as transportation. They do use them for city tours [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Take out the G'RBAGE > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Quebec City is not especially noted for its fiscal frugality. They were using them this summer. I believe they've been used in cities down yourn as well for the same reason: you can safely take them into crowed streets and onto the side walks. Bazzzooom SP SignatureTake out the TRASH to reply And where would you park those big Hummers and SUV's in Philly? Philly = dense pack city Do they crawl over the smaller vehicles? Flap http://flapsblog.com >And where would you park those big Hummers and SUV's in Philly? I would arrange parking on the bottom of the Delaware River ...... >Philly = dense pack city > >Do they crawl over the smaller vehicles? Only at Monster Truck meets ..... >Flap > >http://flapsblog.com Whoever wrote: "How about those that said we were 'stingy' during the tsunami relief effort ? ?Are they helping us now ?" REPLY. I am not sure what that has to do with anything. This thread is about Americans helping Americans, I thought. About 1 year after 9/11, the news made it to a remote villiage in one of the African countries. The villiage sent a cow to the U.S. (Their food and their money). I will see if I can find the story. It was pretty humbling. -Sue SignatureSue >Whoever wrote: >"How about those that said we were 'stingy' during the tsunami relief [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >food and their money). I will see if I can find the story. It was >pretty humbling. -Sue Yeah I read that. They sent the cow C.O.D. Joel Wait a MINUTE ....... You mean George Bush cannot send in helicopters and drop water, food, and medicine? You mean George Bush cannot mobilize 1,000 busses if needed? Sorry guys we do not need another Bake Sale to raise funds for help. This is a powerful country with 25% of the world economic activity within our borders. Let's act like a powerful country! The only good thing to come out of this is that gasoline has topped $3 a gallon. Now maybe the New Jersey people will leave their Hummers over there and take the Speedline across the bridge. What a goofy society this is! Joel >"How about those that said we were 'stingy' during the tsunami relief >effort ? re they helping us now ?" >Vaughn has a point, but it's just silly to expect the third world >countries hit by the tsunami to return the kind of money we sent there, >especially when the help they need still hasn't reached most of the >people who most need it. It's going to be years before areas destroyed >by the tsunami are ready to give back to those who helped them. Joel's Post: Wait a MINUTE ....... You mean George Bush cannot send in helicopters and drop water, food, and medicine? You mean George Bush cannot mobilize 1,000 busses if needed? Sorry guys we do not need another Bake Sale to raise funds for help. This is a powerful country with 25% of the world economic activity within our borders. Let's act like a powerful country! The only good thing to come out of this is that gasoline has topped $3 a gallon. Now maybe the New Jersey people will leave their Hummers over there and take the Speedline across the bridge. What a goofy society this is! Joel >W_B wrote: >"How about those that said we were 'stingy' during the tsunami relief >effort ? re they helping us now ?" >Vaughn has a point, but it's just silly to expect the third world >countries hit by the tsunami to return the kind of money we sent there, >especially when the help they need still hasn't reached most of the >people who most need it. It's going to be years before areas destroyed >by the tsunami are ready to give back to those who helped them. Flap's Reply: With all due respect, I think we need to concentrate on helping our fellow Americans as best we can. Here is a link to a charitable list: http://www.truthlaidbear.com/katrinacharities.php Flap http://flapsblog.com > With all due respect, I think we need to concentrate on helping our > fellow Americans as best we can. With all due respect. I am horribly embarrassed and dismayed at the behavior of my fellow Americans. Mr. Bush said that the federal response to date is "unacceptable" so I suppose it must be true, but just last year I lived through two hurricanes (both tiny compared to Katrina) and I feel I understand a tiny bit about the difficulties involved in responding to such natural disasters. Vaughn Original Post: "Flap" <fullosseousf...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1125700485.840727.133620@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > With all due respect, I think we need to concentrate on helping our > fellow Americans as best we can. With all due respect. I am horribly embarrassed and dismayed at the behavior of my fellow Americans. Mr. Bush said that the federal response to date is "unacceptable" so I suppose it must be true, but just last year I lived through two hurricanes (both tiny compared to Katrina) and I feel I understand a tiny bit about the difficulties involved in responding to such natural disasters. Vaughn Flap's Reply: I am encouraged with the outpouring of support. But, we have to do more..... No blame game....... Again, the list for charitable contributions is: http://www.truthlaidbear.com/k atrinacharities.php Flap http://flapsblog.com >> With all due respect, I think we need to concentrate on helping our >> fellow Americans as best we can. > > With all due respect. I am horribly embarrassed and dismayed at the >behavior of my fellow Americans. Just thought that I would check in and read your post. My question is *which* Americans are you "embarrassed and dismayed at the behavior" of ? Rhetorical to be sure, but are they truly your fellow Americans ? Predatory animals always take advantage of the weak. It is up to the sane and trained to remove the societal cancer. > Mr. Bush said that the federal response to date is "unacceptable" so I >suppose it must be true, but just last year I lived through two hurricanes (both >tiny compared to Katrina) and I feel I understand a tiny bit about the >difficulties involved in responding to such natural disasters. I do truly understand, and do not suppose to speak for anyone else. It does stir my dander when the 'talking heads' criticize with no concept of the logistics involved. N.O. as it was known, is gone. >Vaughn Harsh, Yes. True, Yes. -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE <vaughnsimonHATESS...@att.fake.net> wrote: >> With all due respect, I think we need to concentrate on helping our >> fellow Americans as best we can. > With all due respect. I am horribly embarrassed and dismayed at the >behavior of my fellow Americans. Just thought that I would check in and read your post. My question is *which* Americans are you "embarrassed and dismayed at the behavior" of ? Rhetorical to be sure, but are they truly your fellow Americans ? Predatory animals always take advantage of the weak. It is up to the sane and trained to remove the societal cancer. > Mr. Bush said that the federal response to date is "unacceptable" so I >suppose it must be true, but just last year I lived through two hurricanes (both >tiny compared to Katrina) and I feel I understand a tiny bit about the >difficulties involved in responding to such natural disasters. I do truly understand, and do not suppose to speak for anyone else. It does stir my dander when the 'talking heads' criticize with no concept of the logistics involved. N.O. as it was known, is gone. >Vaughn Harsh, Yes. True, Yes. -- W_B wubbabubb...@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE Flap's Reply: Yup, but they will try te rebuild it! Flap http://flapsblog.com > Here is a link to a charitable list: > http://www.truthlaidbear.com/katrinacharities.php > > Flap With all due respect to the bloggers' efforts, we up here are being strongly encouraged to donate $$$ to the Kaannaaddian Red Cross. They are not as yet accepting food or other goods due to logistical reasons. After seeing some of the relief efforts and GWB hugging some down-home country boahs and sistahs, I can see why. I'm also glad to see the army is in there restoring peace and pushing the looters back into their holes. .... Ah wonder who got all o' those Country-style Telecasters and them Gretch Country Gentlemans outta the second-hand Guit-tar stores?.... Prolly lifted a couple a pedal steel guits as well... A Gibson Flying V or two... Wasn't Les Paul from Now Ore-Lins? Pity I didn't see New Ore-Leenz when I had the chance. At any rate, the Red Cross is the international disaster agency, and though I haven't got much $$$ in pocket at this time of year, that's where my donation is going. Cheeahs SP SignatureTake out the TRASH to reply Sp's Post: Flap <fullosseousf...@gmail.com> wrote: > Here is a link to a charitable list: > http://www.truthlaidbear.com/k atrinacharities.php > Flap With all due respect to the bloggers' efforts, we up here are being strongly encouraged to donate $$$ to the Kaannaaddian Red Cross. They are not as yet accepting food or other goods due to logistical reasons. After seeing some of the relief efforts and GWB hugging some down-home country boahs and sistahs, I can see why. I'm also glad to see the army is in there restoring peace and pushing the looters back into their holes. .... Ah wonder who got all o' those Country-style Telecasters and them Gretch Country Gentlemans outta the second-hand Guit-tar stores?.... Prolly lifted a couple a pedal steel guits as well... A Gibson Flying V or two... Wasn't Les Paul from Now Ore-Lins? Pity I didn't see New Ore-Leenz when I had the chance. At any rate, the Red Cross is the international disaster agency, and though I haven't got much $$$ in pocket at this time of year, that's where my donation is going. Cheeahs SP -- Take out the TRASH to reply Flap's Reply: Thank you for your donation. All charities giving to the relief effort are much appreciated. I will repeat the link which has over 120 charities listed: http://www.truthlaidbear.com/katrinacharities.php Cheers, Flap http://flapsblog.com >With all due respect to the bloggers' efforts, we up here are being >strongly encouraged to donate $$$ to the Kaannaaddian Red Cross. They >are not as yet accepting food or other goods due to logistical reasons. Well dude we are getting the $ame me$$age If I thought for one second that my buck$ would go to someone that truly needed it, there would be no hesitation. Would help someone in need without question. That'd be in person, not just sending a check. Sorry, too many scammers out there. -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE > Sorry, too many scammers out there. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > Take out the G'RBAGE The Red Cross????? I think that's a bit over much. JMO, but I trust them. The only scandal they ever had was blown out into the open very quickly. SP SignatureTake out the TRASH to reply > Pity I didn't see New Ore-Leenz when I had the chance. Actually, you lost your chance when you became a father. New Orleans is (was) not a family destination. Unless you like jazz joints and bar crawling, there is little for you there. I did enjoy a little day trip that we took up the Mississippi river. It was on a steam paddlewheeler and I spent the entire trip in the engine room happy as a kid in a toy store. Our daughter was (perhaps) five when we took that trip and we solemnly warned her that they would not allow anyone into the state of Mississippi who could not spell it. She practiced the entire way! Vaughn > > Pity I didn't see New Ore-Leenz when I had the chance. > > Actually, you lost your chance when you became a father. New Orleans is > (was) not a family destination. Unless you like jazz joints and bar crawling, > there is little for you there. ... and the Red Light district... Where're those paternity DNA test kits I hid in here???? Ah, yes: under the MicroWave.... Two years ago.... Should still be good.... Your idea of going on a Paddle Wheel Proud Mary tour would be a real blast for my little guy. I'm gonna file that in memory. Thanks Big Wheel a-keep on toinin' Proud Mary keep on boinin' Rollin'... Rollin'... Rollin' on-a Rivah... John Fogherty SignatureTake out the TRASH to reply >> > Pity I didn't see New Ore-Leenz when I had the chance. >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Your idea of going on a Paddle Wheel Proud Mary tour would be a real >blast for my little guy. I'm gonna file that in memory. REPLY Reminds me of the Janis Joplin song ........ >Thanks > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >John Fogherty > REPLY > > Reminds me of the Janis Joplin song ........ What song is that? I'm not up much on my JJ. Thanks SP SignatureTake out the TRASH to reply >> REPLY >> >> Reminds me of the Janis Joplin song ........ > >What song is that? I'm not up much on my JJ. What am I saying.....? I meant CCR! Creedence Clearwater Revival ** Left a good job in the city, Workin for the man evry night and day, And I never lost one minute of sleepin, Worryin bout the way things might have been. Chorus: Big wheel keep on turnin, Proud mary keep on burnin, Rollin, rollin, rollin on the river. Cleaned a lot of plates in memphis, Pumped a lot of pain down in new orleans, But I never saw the good side of the city, til I hitched a ride on a river boat queen. Chorus Rollin, rollin, rollin on the river. If you come down to the river, Bet you gonna find some people who live. You dont have to worry cause you have no money, People on the river are happy to give. Chorus Rollin, rollin, rollin on the river. Rollin, rollin, rollin on the river. Rollin, rollin, rollin on the river. Creedence Clearwater Revival >Thanks >SP > Left a good job in the city, > Workin' for the man ev'ry night and day, > And I never lost one minute of sleepin', > Worryin' 'bout the way things might have been. Now, that's more like it... ;-) SP SignatureTake out the TRASH to reply >>> REPLY >>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Creedence Clearwater Revival Nope, John Fogerty. Vaughn Joel first: > > What am I saying.....? I meant CCR! > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Vaughn Butt, JF _was_ CCR... SP SignatureTake out the TRASH to reply >> Nope, John Fogerty. >> >> Vaughn > > Butt, JF _was_ CCR... Yep, I know. CCR/Fogerty...takes me back to my long-lost youth (picture Vaughn with a wistful look on his face). Vaughn > Yep, I know. CCR/Fogerty...takes me back to my long-lost youth (picture > Vaughn with a wistful look on his face). > > Vaughn Their stuff was easy to do on guitar, so we learned to play on it. The good ol' days: playin' in the garage, gettin shocks from the ungrounded amps on the damp cement floor... Drinkin' underage beer... etc... <the Pipe sets in his rocking chair and stares off into the past...> <the rabbit starts lickin' his toes...> SP SignatureTake out the TRASH to reply Apparently both! http://www.oldielyrics.com/j/john_fogerty.html .. >>>> REPLY >>>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Vaughn C'Mon ... this is so lame ....... (Please picture to see what "this" is.) Joel . [image: http://tinypic.com/ddeyag.jpg] . LINK http://tinypic.com/ddeyag.jp -- Joel34 > [image: http://tinypic.com/ddeyag.jpg] That's a new one on me. I didn't know JF had a solo career after CCR SP SignatureTake out the TRASH to reply >> [image: http://tinypic.com/ddeyag.jpg] > >That's a new one on me. I didn't know JF had a solo career after CCR >SP Centerfield. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > >That's a new one on me. I didn't know JF had a solo career after CCR > >SP [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Take out the G'RBAGE > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Oh.... <the Pipe scratches his haid.... ???? .....> SP SignatureTake out the TRASH to reply Joel M. Eichen Wrote: > Apparently both > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > >Vaugh I thought Tina Turner sung Rollin on the Riv-aaaa -- Su >>> REPLY >>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Creedence Clearwater Revival Guess you missed the part about John Fogerty >** > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >>Thanks >>SP -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > With all due respect to the bloggers' efforts, we up here are being > strongly encouraged to donate $$$ to the Canadian Red Cross. They > are not as yet accepting food or other goods due to logistical reasons. > After seeing some of the relief efforts and GWB hugging some down-home > country boahs and sistahs, I can see why. I personally would never donate money to rebuild a city that is surrounded by water and is five feet below sea level. If they want to build a new N.O. ten miles inland, maybe. I think they might be better off just bull-dozing the entire thing. and making a park out of it. Signature/ Amatus / > >> Here is a link to a charitable list: [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > Cheeahs > SP > I personally would never donate money to rebuild a city that is surrounded > by water and is five feet below sea level. If they want to build a new N.O. > ten miles inland, maybe. I think they might be better off just bull-dozing > the entire thing. and making a park out of it. You are picturing a water park? Vaughn > You are picturing a water park? Or, a marina. I know it sounds calloused and un-caring, but I think it would be silly to re-build in that location, and economically smarter to re-locate. They can always sell boat tours to visit the historical sites. Who would possibly insure those buildings and homes a second time? Signature/ Amatus / > >> I personally would never donate money to rebuild a city that is [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Vaughn >> I personally would never donate money to rebuild a city that is surrounded >> by water and is five feet below sea level. If they want to build a new [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Vaughn Great minds think alike. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >> With all due respect to the bloggers' efforts, we up here are being >> strongly encouraged to donate $$$ to the Canadian Red Cross. They [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >ten miles inland, maybe. I think they might be better off just bull-dozing >the entire thing. and making a park out of it. I was thinking that too. Why build below C-level? FWIW, that’s where I grew up. (Gretna actually, on the West Bank. Some may not give a rat’s arse but all of my family got out, all ar as well as can be, and a few are here with me. This ‘worst cas scenario’ has been studied and played out many times over and tim and time again, it’s been catastrophic. So, why do people live there They live there because it’s their home. It’s where they grew up it’s where they married and it’s where they planned to retire. I other words, New Orleans is / was a wonderful study in society an those who don’t understand it are less off for it. Shame you misse it. The temperature of the waters in the Gulf and the Atlantic are steadil rising. Catastrophic storms, I fear, are going to be an ever-increasin fact of life. Perhaps Florida is next? Hell, they’re as vulnerable a the rest of those living on the coast, in earthquake zones or in an other area that’s prone to nature’s fury. You can’t change peopl and people are going to migrate to temperate climates and seaside area if they choose. The problem here has been pre planning and response, o the lack thereof… not senselessness. As a country we need to be better prepared for catastrophes… of al kinds. Hindsight is 20/20 and pointing out the mistakes made here i futile, albeit, there have been plenty! We live in times of terrorism global warming, social upheaval… need I go further... Perhaps we nee to focus on this “not on my watch†attitude that a lot of ou political leaders have instead of chastising those currently in need It can happen to any of us. What the hell, give the Red Cross a buck or two tomorrow if you fee like it. Sorry folks, just venting a little. -Bill Amatus Cremona Wrote: > > With all due respect to the bloggers' efforts, we up here are being > > strongly encouraged to donate $$$ to the Canadian Red Cross. They [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > > -- > > Take out the TRASH to reply -- billkat Ever see the infomercials for GGW on late-night TV? That's Girls Gone Wild. There is a new one .... FGW ... Fonts Gone Wild. . [image: http://tinypic.com/dfuauu.jpg] . QUOTE=billkatz FWIW, that’s where I grew up. (Gretna actually, on the West Bank. Some may not give a rat’s arse but all of my family got out, all ar as well as can be, and a few are here with me. This ‘worst cas scenario’ has been studied and played out many times over and tim and time again, it’s been catastrophic. So, why do people live there They live there because it’s their home. It’s where they grew up it’s where they married and it’s where they planned to retire. I other words, New Orleans is / was a wonderful study in society an those who don’t understand it are less off for it. Shame you misse it. The temperature of the waters in the Gulf and the Atlantic are steadil rising. Catastrophic storms, I fear, are going to be an ever-increasin fact of life. Perhaps Florida is next? Hell, they’re as vulnerable a the rest of those living on the coast, in earthquake zones or in an other area that’s prone to nature’s fury. You can’t change peopl and people are going to migrate to temperate climates and seaside area if they choose. The problem here has been pre planning and response, o the lack thereof… not senselessness. As a country we need to be better prepared for catastrophes… of al kinds. Hindsight is 20/20 and pointing out the mistakes made here i futile, albeit, there have been plenty! We live in times of terrorism global warming, social upheaval… need I go further... Perhaps we nee to focus on this “not on my watch†attitude that a lot of ou political leaders have instead of chastising those currently in need It can happen to any of us. What the hell, give the Red Cross a buck or two tomorrow if you fee like it. Sorry folks, just venting a little. -Bill /QUOT -- Joel34 Hmmm... Looks fine on Google and via uu.net. I'm wondering if the problem is downstream. Joel344 Wrote: > Ever see the infomercials for GGW on late-night TV? > That's Girls Gone Wild. > > There is a new one .... FGW ... Fonts Gone Wild. Signaturebillkatz Who would bother to try to read this stuff????? No offense Bill, but the characters are not normal. >QUOTE=billkatz > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > >/QUOTE ``````````````````````` Stephen (What's a temporary?) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Who would bother to try to read this stuff????? No offense Bill, but >the characters are not normal. REPLY â = ' Joel >>QUOTE=billkatz >> [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >Stephen (What's a temporary?) >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I think the illegible character sets have something to do with UTF-8 to ASCII encoding. I'm looking into it. I get these exact same messages via OE perfectly, through uu.net, without any high ASCII trash. Google sees them just fine too. Somewhere downstream the messages are getting munged. I don't believe the source of this problem is directly DC's fault. I believe it's more likely attributed to a hosed configuration on one of the larger relay points. Since this is p*ssing people off for one reason or another, I'll drop off on the posts. Joel, I'll keep you and Justin posted if I can find anything from my end. cya! Joel M. Eichen Wrote: > >Who would bother to try to read this stuff????? No offense Bill, but > >the characters are not normal. [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > >Stephen (What's a temporary?) > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Signaturebillkatz > I think the illegible character sets have something to do with UTF-8 to > ASCII encoding. I'm looking into it. I get these exact same messages [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > cya! That one came through perfectly. Vaughn That verifies what I've only been able to assume. If all messages were messed up, I'd point to DC. Tracking this down isn't easy since it goes from hop to hop. Vaughn Simon Wrote: > > I think the illegible character sets have something to do with UTF-8 > to [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Vaughn Signaturebillkatz >> I think the illegible character sets have something to do with UTF-8 to >> ASCII encoding. I'm looking into it. I get these exact same messages [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >Vaughn Yeah, same here. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >Who would bother to try to read this stuff????? No offense Bill, but >the characters are not normal. >>FWIW, thatâs It's that new Euro-font -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >>Who would bother to try to read this stuff????? No offense Bill, but >>the characters are not normal. > >>>FWIW, thatâs > >It's that new Euro-font Those euros are taking over the world! >I personally would never donate money to rebuild a city that is surrounded >by water and is five feet below sea level. If they want to build a new N.O. >ten miles inland, maybe. I think they might be better off just bull-dozing >the entire thing. and making a park out of it. How about a water park 8^]] -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > >I personally would never donate money to rebuild a city that is surrounded > >by water and is five feet below sea level. If they want to build a new N.O. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Take out the G'RBAGE > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com You really think people are gonna wanna go over there and frolic on top of peoples' graves? I seriously doubt it, myself. SP SignatureTake out the TRASH to reply Joel wrote: "Now maybe the New Jersey people will leave their Hummers over there and take the Speedline across the bridge." And maybe the rest of us will allow corn farmers to produce the cheap, renewable energy that OPEC stifled some years back. (There are Hummers around here too. It's a sin that any car made today should be less economic than in the 1970s!) >"How about those that said we were 'stingy' during the tsunami relief >effort ? re they helping us now ?" >Vaughn has a point, but it's just silly to expect the third world >countries hit by the tsunami to return the kind of money we sent there, >especially when the help they need still hasn't reached most of the >people who most need it. It's going to be years before areas destroyed >by the tsunami are ready to give back to those who helped them. It wasn't the recipients of the tsunami aide that called the US stingy. IIRC it was a Euro-trash. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com "it was a Euro-trash. " Ouch. We name call and wonder why the rest of the world disrespects us? >"it was a Euro-trash. " > >Ouch. We name call and wonder why the rest of the world disrespects us? Why shouldn't any American patriot take offence when we are dis-respected ? IOW how do you personally take it when the American Liberal Media tells you that you Americans suck ? Well, personally I get angry, not only because it is a blatant lie, but because it gives the wrong impression of the USA to the rest of the world. I say suspend *all* foreign aid now ! Today ! End. Finished. Out. Because... The United States of America now has a national crisis of epic proportions. We must temporarily suspend foreign aide, since we direly need *national* aide. Those that hate the US do not only 'name call'; they actively try to kill us and our soldiers. It is time for the end of kowtowing to the whims of those who wish to destroy the American way of life. Time to stand up like the patriotots that our fore-fathers were. Millions of Americans fought to defend for your current way of life. It's time we all stood up. Not only for ourselves, but for our children and our grand-children. </soap box mode> -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE > >"it was a Euro-trash. " > > > >Ouch. We name call and wonder why the rest of the world disrespects us? > Those that hate the US do not only 'name call'; > they actively try to kill us and our soldiers. The Euro-trash?? http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/tv/microsites/E/eurotrash/Rapido_trash/gal leries/index.html > Why shouldn't any American patriot take offence when > we are dis-respected ? Criticism can be dispensed with respect or disrespect. In and of itself, criticism is not disrespectful. Particularly given respectfully, criticism is a good way to promote discussion and improvement of less than wonderful situations. Even when it's disrespectful, it should cause people to stand back and consider what's being criticized. > IOW how do you personally take it when the American Liberal > Media tells you that you Americans suck ? I try hard to consider whether the criticism has any merit. > I say suspend *all* foreign aid now ! Today ! > End. Finished. Out. That's something that should be considered. We should also consider the positive effects that certain foreign aid might have on the US. In addition, we should consider what negative effects spending billions of dollars on ill thought-out and ill prepared wars is doing to us, and how that money might be better spent on hurricane or other homeland welfare. > It is time for the end of kowtowing to the whims of > those who wish to destroy the American way of life. I guess I wonder if there's a unanimous concept of the "American way of life." Right now, it seems to me that an awful lot of Americans think the "American way of life" includes using however much nonrenewable energy they want and fussing if they don't pay less for that energy than any of the rest of the world. (For quite some time Europe, for example, has been paying over $8/gallon for gas while the US gets artificially low prices, even at over $3/gallon.) Part of the reason the world disrespects us is that we tromp into other countries to protect "our" interests (oil, democracy, waterways, whatever) without respecting the fact that those countries and their resources are not our property. They disrespect us for disregarding our overwhelming abuse of the world's resources (gas, food, anything else we can buy or pollute) at the expense of others. They disrespect us for pretending that the resources we hog are ours to use up just because we have the money to buy them. They disrespect us for ignoring the fact that when the last gallons of gas, breathable air and potable water are gone from the earth, no amount of boycotting will create more where none exists. > It's time we all stood up. > > Not only for ourselves, but for our children and our grand-children. My hope is that our children and grandchildren will benefit from our coming to our senses about energy and finances instead of having to pay more of a price than we're already paying for the poor energy and financial choices of previous generations. I find their "insurgent" behavior confusing as well. >> I know some of you in SMD may consider this spam but the cause is >> worthy and profound. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > anyone who loses their home due to one; but there is a limit. Are these > people worth saving? Is the city worth saving? Just so you know I am not a total bastard. I have the same charitable inclinations as others, but still can't get over everything I saw on TV. My donation will be leaving soon as a tiny part of an 18 wheeler load donated by local residents. I am sure that the stuff from the Simon family will only go to innocent victims...it consists exclusively of baby formula and pet food. > Puzzled and a bit pissed; > Vaughn >Please give. > >Flap knows you will be glad you did. If I thought for one instant that my contribution would go to someone *who really needed it*, I would. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com |
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