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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / September 2005Andrewsteeth
Richard Johnson richard@rjsj.demon.co.uk Re: Looking for people with bad teeth for UK TV health programme Hi Richard! I sure do! I am posting this at a small low-traffic website where it will be scooped up into nntp and from there it will be syndicated around the world onto nntp, onto http, websites, vBulletin Boards, wireless RSS-Reader capable devices such as Blackberry, and Treo 650. I bet people waiting for the bus in the UK are reading this as I type it!. People are welcome to post their stories at www.DentalCom.net. Another personal story might gain some interesting perspective. A UK citizen was having untold problems, with dental diagnosis and treatment. Do you know what a kindly US dentist did? The dentist, Dr. Steve Mancuso of Troy Michigan offered the patient Andrew the opportunity to fly to the US on his own and Dr. Steve would use his advanced CAD-CAM technology, called CEREC to beautifully restore the teeth. Dr. Mancuso did this without charging the patient a penny! This was done in conjunction with the sci.med.dentistry study group. So to search, you can use the keyword, "ANDREWSTEETH" and find the discussions. Joel M. Eichen DDS Richard Johnson <richard@rjsj.demon.co.uk> wrote: Dear Joel, I'm looking for people with moans about the state of dentistry in today's NHS. I've posted on here before (it's a story for the Sunday Times magazine), and I have spoken to a few dentists in the UK. But do you know of a way to put out the word for patients with tales of woe? Many thanks, Richard Johnson Richard Johnson's new website is now at www.rjsj.demon.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel344" Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 12:31 AM Subject: Re: Looking for people with bad teeth for UK TV health programme > Thanks for the post .. we have quite a few folks from the UK who are on > this board and affiliated and syndicated sites ..... any particular > city involved? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Joel344's Profile: http://dentalcom.net/forum/member.php?userid=12 > View this thread: http://dentalcom.net/forum/showthread.php?t=2735  SignatureJoel344 Article already kickin' butt at www.deja.com . [image: http://tinypic.com/bf5nw0.jpg] . SignatureJoel344 > http://tinypic.com/bf5nw0.jpg Check the active older topics on your .jpg. See if any reasonably intelligent human would give the site a second thought.... I'm embarassed to tears. SP SignatureTake out the TRASH to reply True, its a dental site. Unless we are discussing the individual's teeth, there is little general interest .......... but that should never discourage us! Joel >> http://tinypic.com/bf5nw0.jpg > >Check the active older topics on your .jpg. See if any reasonably >intelligent human would give the site a second thought.... I'm >embarassed to tears. >SP Joel344 Wrote: > Another personal story might gain some interesting perspective. A UK > citizen was having untold problems, with dental diagnosis and [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > @rjsj.demon.co.uk="">'' > (http://dentalcom.net/forum/showthread.php?t=2735) That wasn't NHS though... as far as I understood? Just a really crappy holistic-style dentist (from memory, correct me if I'm wrong). It's appalling that the case wasn't heard (or was thrown out, can't remember which) by the Professional Conduct Committee. </richard> Signatureletsconnect No, she was a NHS dentist who did composite fillings for Andrew on a private basis. She just did the fillings in the same extremely poor standard she used for her NHS work. As for the Professional Conduct Committee, at the time Andrew's complaint was dealt with I do not believe the GDC had the legal power to deal with a complaint about private treatment. Which is really appalling in its own and just shows that until now private dentistry was not even officially recognised by the NHS monopoly. George > No, she was a NHS dentist who did composite fillings for Andrew on a > private basis. She just did the fillings in the same extremely poor [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > that until now private dentistry was not even officially recognised by > the NHS monopoly. Thanks for the explanation :-). So would Andrew be able to put forward a complaint now that the rules have changed (thing is that he's in possession of the records, and presumable, this NHS dentist still has his records from 2002)? Thanks George and others! Sadly, less-than-perfect dentistry exists all over the planet. Today's dentists appear to be more highly skilled than those of a previous generation, however, there are always exceptions. On the other side, I always marvel at how clever some of the dentists must be to craft such exquisite restorations! Joe -- Joel34 >> No, she was a NHS dentist who did composite fillings for Andrew on a >> private basis. She just did the fillings in the same extremely poor [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >possession of the records, and presumable, this NHS dentist still has >his records from 2002)? It was a private dentist, a complaint was filed. Mancuso's records are digital, Andrew has a copy on CD. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > It was a private dentist, a complaint was filed. > Mancuso's records are digital, Andrew has a copy on CD. Hi W_B, I've exchanged a few e-mails with Andrew. From the info I received, I concluded that the dentist was NHS, but of course the replacement of amalgams with composite fillings was done on a private basis. As to whether Andrew will be able to file a complaint now, maybe he'll have to wait a bit longer cause I don't know if the private complaint scheme is still in place. In any case, if there was a prior hearing I don't think the GDC will be willing to re-examine the case and they can't offer any compensation - you have to go to a court for that. The NHS dentist should still have his records. George >> It was a private dentist, a complaint was filed. >> Mancuso's records are digital, Andrew has a copy on CD. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >George AFAIK there was a complaint filed (don't remember to who) that Mancuso and me helped Andrew with. Do not know the disposition of the complaint. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >No, she was a NHS dentist who did composite fillings for Andrew on a >private basis. She just did the fillings in the same extremely poor [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >George Do you know Andrew ? I was there and observed Mancuso's excellent Cerec technic. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > Do you know Andrew ? > I was there and observed Mancuso's excellent Cerec technic. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Take out the G'RBAGE > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com I for one believe that Andrew is not to be talked about without his permission. He came to the SMD seeking help; he didn't come here looking to be a subject in a scandal sheet radio/tv show. Decency please. This is a public forum, but that case describes a REAL person. SP SignatureTake out the TRASH to reply >> Do you know Andrew ? >> I was there and observed Mancuso's excellent Cerec technic. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >permission. He came to the SMD seeking help; he didn't come here looking >to be a subject in a scandal sheet radio/tv show. *********************** REPLY: Yes, from now on we can refer to him as A. If we keep calling him Andrew, everyone will recognize who he is. Joel ************************* >Decency please. This is a public forum, but that case describes a REAL >person. > >SP > *********************** > REPLY: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > ************************* That would be more respectful, yes. Except that to get his pedigree we have to Google Groups his name. What really bugs me is that sh.t-disturber with the 'lookit me' web site over in England. He is not doing this to aid his readers but to stick it to the Government. If 'A' is in accord, well, fine, but I sure hope he didn't publish his home coordinates here. If that story takes off, he's gonna get unwelcome publicity from the local media folk. Thanks SP SignatureTake out the TRASH to reply ...except that "A" can be guessed by too many people. I recommend we call him "_ _." >> *********************** >> REPLY: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >Thanks >SP Joel, You are too funny with the substitues for Andrew. How about Jane Drew or James Drew. Close enough but still far enough. Your humor is kicking in again. Gail > ...except that "A" can be guessed by too many people. I recommend we > call him "_ _." >Joel, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Gail I can't risk it! Her license plate says, "~$#~_~#." >> ...except that "A" can be guessed by too many people. I recommend we >> call him "_ _." > >Joel, > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I can't risk it! Her license plate says, "~$#~_~#." That 'individual' should never be mentioned on this NG. JMO SP SignatureTake out the TRASH to reply There can be variations to prevent people associating "_ _" with "A" so some people can use "_ _" while others may want to use "~ ~." Bwet please do not use "~^~" as that is already taken. "~^~" 0 0 J ~_~_~ Joely >> *********************** >> REPLY: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >Thanks >SP > There can be variations to prevent people associating "_ _" with "A" > so some people can use "_ _" while others may want to use "~ ~." [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Joely 'K... I'll call him "He Whose Name Must Not Be Mentioned", or HWNMNBM. That sounds vaguely familiar somehow, but I can't quite put my finger on it.... SP SignatureTake out the TRASH to reply >> Do you know Andrew ? >> I was there and observed Mancuso's excellent Cerec technic. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >SP YUP, that is why A. is more appropriate. Someone on another thread suggested we just refer to him as _ _ because even the "A" is too identifying ....... What do you think? Joel > YUP, that is why A. is more appropriate. > Someone on another thread suggested we [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Joel As I said in the other post, I think 'A' is quite appropriate. Thanks SP SignatureTake out the TRASH to reply > Richard Johnson richard@rjsj.demon.co.uk > Re: Looking for people with bad teeth for UK TV health programme Geez BoB!!! this Richard guy is quite some thing else entirely out there and geez I wish I could be more like him and not have to do anything that really matters in this world like fix teeth and worry about whether or not those two kids are really mine and paying the next mortgage installment on my f.cking DEAD LASER and doing lack luster mundane bane-of-existance stuff like getting outta bed in the morning and facing myself in the mirror. This towering fine example of human existance so deftly wrote on his website and I quote (and I copied because I couldn't have been bothered to write it out myself, okay?)... QUOTE, Goddamit!!!!!: You see espresso isn't a solution but a colloid-a mixture of liquids, gases and finely dispersed solids. It has more than 1,500 chemical components detectable by taste and smell-far more than wine. A good espresso will give you an aftertaste that can last for 20 minutes, making it a good match for a short cigar. /QUOTE for Bobsakes..... Lowwwwaaaad, how we needed to know the things on his page.... If I was Andrew, I think I would truly be embarassed to be contacted by this A..H. SP SignatureTake out the TRASH to reply >> Richard Johnson richard@rjsj.demon.co.uk >> Re: Looking for people with bad teeth for UK TV health programme [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >bane-of-existance stuff like getting outta bed in the morning and facing >myself in the mirror. REPLY How DentalCom.Net works Another interesting feature of DentalCom.Net is that it automatically cleans up language. This is particularly useful when some young minds are following the discussion. I got to go over to DentalCom.Net and see how the thread appears over there ....... I am reading the uncensored, unedited, un-bowdlerized nntp Forte Free Agent version right now ..... JUSTIN: You got to add the word "GOT" to the list of censored words. There is no proper use of "GOT" in the English language! It is definitely not a substitute for "HAVE." So it should appear as "G**." Some http sites such as www.MedKB.com (KnowledgeBase) edit out any superfluous comments or ads! W_B should appreciate that! DEF. bowdlerize .... Edit by omitting or modifying parts considered indelicate. Joel >This towering fine example of human existance so deftly wrote on his >website and I quote (and I copied because I couldn't have been bothered [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >SP > Richard Johnson richard@rjsj.demon.co.uk > Re: Looking for people with bad teeth for UK TV health programme > > Hi Richard! Stuff it Richard (from SP) > I sure do! > > I am posting this at a small low-traffic website where it will bescooped up into nntp and from there it will be syndicated around theworld onto nntp, onto http, websites, vBulletin Boards, wirelessRSS-Reader capable devices such as Blackberry, and Treo 650. I betpeople waiting for the bus in the UK are reading this as I type it!. GollyBOB, but the Brits must be desparate to find interesting things to do with their little Star Trek telephones..... Make it SEW, Number One.... >People are welcome to post their stories at www.DentalCom.net. People are also invited to get off their Royal British a.ses and get onto UseNet and post to the original nntp group alluded to by JME. The group is called sci.med.dentistry. You need a News Reader to effectively access it and other UseNet groups. These are text based forums, as opposed to Web pages with nice little cartoons and pictures to keep the mentally feeble amused. It should be clear that if a poster actually makes the effort to get a news reader for his or her operating system to access the SMD, s/he would have gained at least some respect from this poster. If another poster decides to access the SMD UseNet site from a Web based page, this poster would accordingly be less inclined to read it. I know I am in a bitchy mood, but BLODDY HELL: if _I_ can find the SMD on UseNet using a news reader (the way it was DESIGNED to be accessed) then just about _anybody_ can. Sorry. I'll shut up now. SP SignatureTake out the TRASH to reply Who is this Andrew? I know an "A" or a "_ _" but there are no Andrews around here ........ >> Richard Johnson richard@rjsj.demon.co.uk >> Re: Looking for people with bad teeth for UK TV health programme [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] >Sorry. I'll shut up now. >SP > Who is this Andrew? I know an "A" or a "_ _" but there are no Andrews > around here ........ Nor do I. I only saw a couple of his drop ins to say "hello". I wasn't here when the original case was flying (literally) around. See???? It's working already. ;-) SP SignatureTake out the TRASH to reply He changed his name to, "_ _." >> Who is this Andrew? I know an "A" or a "_ _" but there are no Andrews >> around here ........ [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >See???? It's working already. ;-) >SP >> Richard Johnson richard@rjsj.demon.co.uk >> Re: Looking for people with bad teeth for UK TV health programme [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >GollyBOB, but the Brits must be desparate to find interesting things to >do with their little Star Trek telephones..... REPLY Any Luddites out there ,,,,,,,,, there are already applications that pour out restaurant information like reservations ...... and will hold a digital wallet that will allow you to leave your quarters and dimes at home while using parking meters and Coke machines. However, you guys can resist technology ... hey! Even the telegraph had its detractors! Nothing like the smell of fresh ponies rushing from town to town you know .... oh for the days of the Pony Express! What happened to America anyway? No more pony do-do to step in ......... no more excitement in small town USA. Joel >Make it SEW, Number One.... > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >Sorry. I'll shut up now. >SP This [ i m g ] demonstrates how DentalCom.Net cleans up inappropriat language. It also demonstrates the use of the word, "bowdlerize." Joel . [image: http://tinypic.com/dcst2f.jpg] . -- Joel34 When the Catholic Church decided that the Mass was to be conducted i English, there were strong movements in the U.S. of parishioners wh declared, "We want the Mass to be recited in Latin, as it was meant t be said." Of course, another group arose insisting that the Mass be said i Aramaic! Joel ** You wrote, >I know I am in a *****y mood, but BLODDY HELL: if _I_ can find th SMD >on UseNet using a news reader (the way it was DESIGNED to b accessed) >then just about _anybody_ can. > >Sorry. I'll shut up now. >SP -- Joel34 Firstly, look at this: http://tinypic.com/dd039f.jpg <img src="http://tinypic.com/dd039f.jpg" alt="Image hosted by TinyPic.com"> [IMG]http://tinypic.com/dd039f.jpg[/IMG] There are three versions of the same thing there. Take whichever works. What I'm gonna do with all this? The line is too long for my reader. If I don't replace the arrowheads manually, I cannot even respond to you. Many's the time I just don't bother. I cannot even wade through most of Sue's stuff. > When the Catholic Church decided that the Mass was to be conducted > inEnglish, there were strong movements in the >U.S. of parishioners > whodeclared, "We want the Mass to be recited in >Latin, as it was meant > tobe said." I remember that. When I was an altar boy, the Mass was being said in Latin. When it switched to English, it stemmed some of the exodus of young people from the Church (for awhile... then came 1967 and Woodstock). There was a need to shift it into English: high schools everywhere were dropping Latin from their curricula. I myself only had a nodding aquaintance with it in first year high school. > Of course, another group arose insisting that the Mass be said inAramaic! Now, _that_ would have been a blast. We always knew _about_ the language of Jesus... We never heard it spoken and the priests didn't know it either. But isn't it the same 'chez vous'? Are Services still being read in Hebrew amoungst the Reformed Jews?. Thanks Dominus Vobiscum SP SignatureTake out the TRASH to reply >Firstly, look at this: > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >of Jesus... We never heard it spoken and the priests didn't know it >either. There are in fact two versions of Aramaic, old Aramaic and the more Modern Aramaic. I prefer the latter to the former. And yes, I hear it quite regularly! Joel >But isn't it the same 'chez vous'? Are Services still being read in >Hebrew amoungst the Reformed Jews?. Interesting question. All religions evolve. That is except the ones that die. All religions from the most funamental to the most liberal undergo oodles of change especially concerning liturgy. A bigger question is whether religions evolve AWAY FROM ethical precepts. As far as I can tell, that is the only difference between a cult and a religion. Heck even the Revolutionary George Washington soon became a reactionary, as soon as he seized power. Its the nature of the beast. Its also antithetical to the origins. Joel >Thanks > >Dominus Vobiscum >SP > This [ i m g ] demonstrates how DentalCom.Net cleans up inappropriate > language. It also demonstrates the use of the word, "bowdlerize." > Joel > [image: http://tinypic.com/dcst2f.jpg] Point taken, and I plead guilty. I was in a really shitty mood last nite, after mountain biking on Mont Ste. Anne yesterday. We took some of the more mountainous trails and I came outta there the most exhausted I've been this summer. I even had to walk up the steep hills. Then I couldn't sleep, so I got on UseNet and posted some highly intelligent stuff... the kind of stuff I feel the Web based posters are not capable of. :-/ My point could have been made in a more honorable fashion, and so I do apologise. I do still say: access Usenet from nntp. Thanks SP SignatureTake out the TRASH to reply I agree with nntp. Its quick like a bunny. As for your rotten mood, we could tell. Normally you are one of the most polite posters here. You are the most polite with the one possible exception of Steve Bornfeld who we are told, "is always a gentleman." Joel >> This [ i m g ] demonstrates how DentalCom.Net cleans up inappropriate >> language. It also demonstrates the use of the word, "bowdlerize." [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >Thanks >SP Joel's Post: I agree with nntp. Its quick like a bunny. As for your rotten mood, we could tell. Normally you are one of the most polite posters here. You are the most polite with the one possible exception of Steve Bornfeld who we are told, "is always a gentleman." Joel >Joel344 <joeleic...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> This [ i m g ] demonstrates how DentalCom.Net cleans up inappropriate >> language. It also demonstrates the use of the word, "bowdlerize." >> Joel >> [image: http://tinypic.com/dcst2f.jpg] >Point taken, and I plead guilty. >I was in a really shitty mood last nite, after mountain biking on Mont >Ste. Anne yesterday. We took some of the more mountainous trails and I >came outta there the most exhausted I've been this summer. I even had to >walk up the steep hills. Then I couldn't sleep, so I got on UseNet and >posted some highly intelligent stuff... the kind of stuff I feel the Web >based posters are not capable of. :-/ >My point could have been made in a more honorable fashion, and so I do >apologise. >I do still say: access Usenet from nntp. >Thanks >SP Flap's Reply: He probably wouldn't swear if he would put his name at the end of his posts. Anonymous posters somehow think they have more liberty to be rude. Flap http://flapsblog.com > Flap's Reply: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > http://flapsblog.com That is the danger, yes. But that is not why I keep anonymity here. It's because I actually have three different wives and three different families. In all of those, I'm not sure I'm the biological father of my supposed kids. I am also a bank robber and a pick pocket. So if I ended my posts with "Joe Froody" there would be a back lash... ... OOPS!!!!!! SP SignatureTake out the TRASH to reply What we forgot to tell everybody is that DentalCom can see you sitting there at your computer even though you do not have a cam. >Flap's Reply: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >http://flapsblog.com > What we forgot to tell everybody is that DentalCom > can see you sitting there at your computer even though > you do not have a cam. Good BOB!!! You all must be royally grossed out and running in fear and panic when you see me after a day mountain biking... SP SignatureTake out the TRASH to reply >> What we forgot to tell everybody is that DentalCom >> can see you sitting there at your computer even though [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >SP Yeah, it's them cycling shorts and the yellow jersey.... -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > >> What we forgot to tell everybody is that DentalCom > >> can see you sitting there at your computer even though [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Yeah, it's them cycling shorts and the yellow jersey.... > -- Yellow is for sissys... Real Kannadian men bicycle wear bear skin shorts and jerseys that they got by rippin' it off the bear; the polar the better. SP SignatureTake out the TRASH to reply > You are the most polite with the one possible exception of Steve > Bornfeld who we are told, "is always a gentleman." Yes, SB has the good sense to shut up the fingers on the keyboard when he feels a bad mood coming on. I'll to that in the future. No one will stop breathing if I take a holiday. Thanks SP SignatureTake out the TRASH to reply > >GollyBOB, but the Brits must be desparate to find interesting things to > >do with their little Star Trek telephones..... [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > However, you guys can resist technology ... hey! Even the telegraph > had its detractors! As for the above, I am not resisting that AT ALL. It will be a monumental step forward, and will have the effect of eliminating a lot of fraud going arond nowadays. One of the next big steps is going to be sunglasses that project this stuff down the bottom of your visual field like bifocals. I think THAT will be a real step forward as well. Imagine having the map of a city projected that way so you can see it without taking your eyes off the road, having a delicate dental procedure be mapped out for you as you go in and do it; or even taking a 3D tour around your patients' mouths and pointing out the problems to them while they watch the same show... the possibilities are limitless. > Nothing like the smell of fresh ponies rushing from town to town you > know .... oh for the days of the Pony Express! What happened to > America anyway? No more pony do-do to step in ......... no more > excitement in small town USA. America and the world HAVE to move on. Globally, we are between 2nd and 3rd base, and we cannot go back to 2nd. Our only salvation is advancing technology to the point where we are DE-polluting. That change and advancement is not what I am against at all. It is more like this: No one needs to have a College degree to use UseNet. One _does_ have to dig a bit to find it and use it properly, and I just feel that the quality of postings tends to reflect the mentality that goes with doing that. Once it is open to any Tom Dick and Blackberry on the web, we're going to lose quality. I do not mean to denigrate those of you who post from the Web. IMO, the best thought-out questions have come from posters on UseNet rather than from the Web. I _do_ mean to point out that with a couple of exceptions, there is more difficulty in reading messages from there, and I for one often gloss over them. JME, you know how to make your Web based postings intelligable to news readers; others don't, and it's obvious they're not even gonna take the time to figure it out. And of course, always, we don't all have high speed connections either. Of course, this is just my own opinion. Thanks SP > Joel SignatureTake out the TRASH to reply >> >GollyBOB, but the Brits must be desparate to find interesting things to >> >do with their little Star Trek telephones..... [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >pointing out the problems to them while they watch the same show... the >possibilities are limitless. A buddy of mine, a periodontist has something in his car. He punches something in and a map appears and speaks to him telling where to turn left ... where right. Me? I am always happy if the car has FM! Joel >> Nothing like the smell of fresh ponies rushing from town to town you >> know .... oh for the days of the Pony Express! What happened to [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >> >> Joel > A buddy of mine, a periodontist has something in his car. He punches > something in and a map appears and speaks to him telling where to turn [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Joel You are in the 'States. You have Satellite radio. So you can listen to the world in the traffic jams. SP SignatureTake out the TRASH to reply >No more pony do-do to step in ......... no more >excitement in small town USA. > >Joel Oh, I thought you said excrement. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > Richard Johnson richard@rjsj.demon.co.uk > Re: Looking for people with bad teeth for UK TV health programme [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >devices such as Blackberry, and Treo 650. I betpeople waiting for the >bus in the UK are reading this as I type it!. Maybe even Osama Bin Lauderdale is reading it. SP SignatureTake out the TRASH to reply REPLY Actually, how terrorists use the internet is frightening. People on the dark side should never be able to use our technology against us. Joel >> Richard Johnson richard@rjsj.demon.co.uk >> Re: Looking for people with bad teeth for UK TV health programme [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >Maybe even Osama Bin Lauderdale is reading it. >SP > REPLY > > Actually, how terrorists use the internet is frightening. People on > the dark side should never be able to use our technology against us. > > Joel You can add to that what our respective internal revenue services are doing against the common citizenry. Fiscal spying. Did you know that your own gov't has admitted to the capacity to record and browse through EVERY written word that passes through the wires on this entire planet?. I heard this on CDN public radio (the CBC). I think they could spend less time trying to catch Mom and Pop operations hiding 24.95$ from the taxman and going after the real terrorists. It's either that or your government's bragging about its techlological prowess is exaggerated. Personally, however, I _do_ believe they can do that, and probably can do it with the spoken word as well. What they probably don't have is enough people to sift through the stuff. Thanks SP SignatureTake out the TRASH to reply >> REPLY >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >You can add to that what our respective internal revenue services are >doing against the common citizenry. Fiscal spying. I am not sure the infernal revenue service spies ....... >Did you know that your own gov't has admitted to the capacity to record >and browse through EVERY written word that passes through the wires on [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Thanks >SP >> REPLY >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >and browse through EVERY written word that passes through the wires on >this entire planet?. So you are saying they know about Jan Drew ......? > I heard this on CDN public radio (the CBC). I think >they could spend less time trying to catch Mom and Pop operations [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Thanks >SP > >Did you know that your own gov't has admitted to the capacity to record > >and browse through EVERY written word that passes through the wires on > >this entire planet?. > > So you are saying they know about Jan Drew ......? I will now tell you exactly in so many words just what I think of that individual. I have been thinking about it for quite some time... When we were on vacation, walking and being barked at by those ungentlemanly dogs along the way to the beach, I would have thoughts and meditations. And then a bird would sh.t on my hat. So, without further procrastination, the sum total of my thoughts about that individual are contained in this next paragraph: <ahem... rustle papers...adjust glasses...> Begin Paragraph.... /End Paragraph. <whew!> Glad I got that off my chest.... ! Thank You Thank You... your applause is most kind.... Thanks SP SignatureTake out the TRASH to reply "Stovepipe" <stove99pipe@yahoo.ca> wrote ...................> > I will now tell you exactly in so many words just what I think of that > individual. I have been thinking about it for quite some time... When we > were on vacation, walking and being barked at by those ungentlemanly > dogs along the way to the beach, I would have thoughts and meditations. > > And then a bird would sh.t on my hat. Personally, I'm happy elephants don't fly. carabelli New title: "~^~'s" teeth -- Joel34 >"Stovepipe" <stove99pipe@yahoo.ca> wrote ...................> >> I will now tell you exactly in so many words just what I think of that [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >carabelli Mebbe they could try some buffalo wings... -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com |
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