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Joel344 - 28 Aug 2005 10:56 GMT Nice work Justin. The new look and the new organizational headers are superb!
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letsconnect - 28 Aug 2005 12:41 GMT Joel344 Wrote:
> Nice work Justin. The new look and the > new organizational headers are superb! > Ditto!! I love the new look, it's much cleaner again compared to the last overhaul (which was a massive improvement already). Great work!
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Joel344 - 28 Aug 2005 13:25 GMT YUP, to demonstrate what we are talking about, here are some of the other forums with the last post entered into that forum:
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Forum name Thread Title by_author_ and _date_ and _time_ posts ..... and views
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DentalCom.Net > Main Forum > Dental Talk at SMD >
..would be one more under this listing .... see below its listed:
Dental Talk at SMD (1 Viewing) sci.med.dentistry discussions. Re: What's better?... by clintonz@prodigy.net Today 07:40 AM 156 2,075
This means 156 threads and 2.075 views (in addittion to non-DentalCom.Net views, of course)
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Anesthesiology Local Anesthesia, Oral Conscious Sedation, IV Sedation, General Anesthesia Pediatric Oral Conscious... by Sue 08-24-2005 05:11 PM 6 63
Cariology Cariology, Caries Detection Fluoride Conundrum (?) by Joel344 06-26-2005 09:57 PM 14 81
Case Presentation Post your Active Cases here! Veneer case to close... by Joel344 08-10-2005 04:15 PM 11 84
Continuing Education Continuing Education Courses and Events Aloha Meeting by rat 08-22-2005 02:55 PM 29 132
Cosmetic Dentistry Resin Bonding Products & Techniques, Cosmetic Bleaching/Whitening, Porcelain/Composite Veneers/Laminates Reattaching tooth... by Joel344 08-06-2005 05:25 AM 42 296
Dental Controversies Argue Controversial Dental Topics Ozone by alexdds 08-09-2005 01:52 AM 132 657
Dental Equipment Computer and Software, Digital Imaging, Laser Dentistry DentSim (Dental... by Joel344 Yesterday 08:51 PM 206 1,138
Dental Practice Demographics SMD Statistics January -... by ambergambler 07-21-2005 07:25 AM 22 90
Dental Students (1 Viewing) DDS and DMD student topics Including The Student Lounge Need some answers... by Joel344 08-12-2005 08:41 PM 12 81
Dental Talk at SMD (1 Viewing) sci.med.dentistry discussions. Re: What's better?... by clintonz@prodigy.net Today 07:40 AM 156 2,075
Endodontics Endo files Sergenti N2 by barry1818 07-05-2005 02:44 AM 5 23
Implantology (1 Viewing) Nobel Biocare Bicon, IMTEC -- Mini Implants Bicon implants by rat 07-25-2005 01:32 AM 9 47
Laboratories Dental Laboratories In Office Denture Repair by barry1818 05-31-2005 03:55 PM 7 37
Miscellaneous Associations, Insurance Companies, Legal, etc. Question for Sleuths by letsconnect Yesterday 09:18 AM 906 5,826
News News Related to Dentristy :: Get Them Out Of That... by barry1818 08-23-2005 01:08 PM 574 1,528
Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery Implant Problems by Joel344 06-26-2005 10:02 PM 11 59
Orthodontics (1 Viewing) Analysis For Orthodontic... by Joel344 03-28-2005 06:27 AM 4 27
Pediatric Dentistry Educational Materials by Joel344 06-27-2005 03:27 PM 3 11
Periodontics Teeth... by Joel344 08-18-2005 04:02 PM 10 51
Practice Management Practice Management No more muffin runs by Joel344 08-08-2005 11:16 PM 74 364
Staff Dental Assistants and Hygienists help by Joel344 08-11-2005 01:33 PM 41 299
TMD/Occlusion PATIENT: I am... by Joel344 05-23-2005 07:22 PM 8 36
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billkatz - 28 Aug 2005 14:21 GMT Ditto here. The board looks great, Justin! :)
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Administrator - 28 Aug 2005 15:56 GMT Thanks guys... I like the new look too. I got the color idea from dentists adidas... I liked the scheme they were sporting, so I figure it would look good here.
As far as seperating the searches, the dc topics menu will show al posts except from forum number 94... Thats the Dentaltalk at SMD forum
The SMD Topic menu will only show posts from forum 94
I just wanted it this way to see what happens. Plus I wanted to see ho easy it was. It was pretty easy
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A+ N+ MCP2000 Microsoft Certified Professional and Red Hat Linu Certified Technicia Justin Shafe Onsite Dental System Fort Worth, TX 817909422
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Sue - 28 Aug 2005 16:05 GMT Wah! I liked the blue better.Just kidding . It looks great. I lik the default being a larger type too. (At least that seems to have changed as well)
Thanks Justin for all of your efforts. This place is great! -Su
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Administrator - 28 Aug 2005 17:12 GMT Yeah... My eyesite isnt what it used to be. I need to buy some glasses From leaning way back in my seat, I can read the text a little easier Now I know how you felt!!! I was thinking about you when I increase the font size. One reason is that Internet Explorer doesnt seem to b able to raise the text size, while mozilla can. So for a technica reason, I decided to use that as an excuse to raise the size. For th IE people.
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A+ N+ MCP2000 Microsoft Certified Professional and Red Hat Linu Certified Technicia Justin Shafe Onsite Dental System Fort Worth, TX 817909422
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Joel M. Eichen - 29 Aug 2005 12:15 GMT It looks awsome at http and of course, still very good at nttp.
(Forte Free Agent, not any of the look-alikes out there!)
WHAT is the difference, one asks?
A reader client is analogous to our RSS-Readers ....... When I hit SEND it will be posted within milliseconds!
This is why the die-hards love newsreaders. http uses TCP/IP sending IP packets. With nntp, no such animal. BOOM! Its there.
Joel
>Yeah... My eyesite isnt what it used to be. I need to buy some glasses. >From leaning way back in my seat, I can read the text a little easier. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Wink.. >=) Joel344 - 29 Aug 2005 12:21 GMT Joel M. Eichen wrote,
It looks awsome at http and of course, still very good at nttp.
(Forte Free Agent, not any of the look-alikes out there!)
WHAT is the difference, one asks?
A reader client is analogous to our RSS-Readers ....... When I hit SEND it will be posted within milliseconds!
This is why the die-hards love newsreaders. http uses TCP/IP sending IP packets. With nntp, no such animal. BOOM! Its there.
Joel
ADDED at DentalCom.net:
Here's the image ...... notice the typo that I spotted after grabbing this image ...... I corrected before hitting SEND .......
This shows a newsreader view for those who may be interested:
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[image: http://tinypic.com/be7cpi.jpg]
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On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 16:12:35 GMT, Administrator <Administrator@DentalCom.net> wrote:
>Yeah... My eyesite isnt what it used to be. I need to buy som glasses.
>From leaning way back in my seat, I can read the text a littl easier.
>Now I know how you felt!!! I was thinking about you when I increased >the font size. One reason is that Internet Explorer doesnt seem to be [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Wink.. >= -- Joel34
Dr. Steve - 06 Sep 2005 20:26 GMT >Thanks guys... I like the new look too. I got the color idea from a >dentists adidas... I liked the scheme they were sporting, so I figured [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >=) ********************************************************
What is above the line is all I get on a newsgroup viewer. Agent clips the sig line on a reply copy; I did see the full sig line of Justin and his various URL's on the actual message. Whatever message this is a reply to is not displayed. The above quote makes zero sense taken out of context of the coversation it is part of. To see the message this is a reply to requires me to mark the "read" messages as "unread". I then end up with 2709 messages to plow through looking for this message thread again. After I find it, I have no way of knowing what messages I have already read and which I have not yet read. So, I have to work back throgh 2708 messages, or mark them all as "read" and skip any threads I had not finished reading yet.
Does this make it any easier for Sue to understand why we are not thrilled to share space with DC? It has nothing to do with the people, only with how the messages display.
Oh, and Justin, I had some really good lentil soup in Maryland yesterday. But,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I don't know the soup you keep asking us to sample. Do you have a recipe? ``````````````````````` Stephen (What's a temporary?) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Joel M. Eichen - 06 Sep 2005 22:33 GMT REPLY
Steve I see this as the thread you just entered is nested under the original which reads,
Nice work Justin. The new look and the new organizational headers are superb!
Joel
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************************************** So are you using an unnested format for Forte Free Agent?
Joel
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>>Thanks guys... I like the new look too. I got the color idea from a >>dentists adidas... I liked the scheme they were sporting, so I figured [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >Stephen (What's a temporary?) >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dr. Steve - 06 Sep 2005 23:02 GMT >REPLY > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Joel I am set up to read newsgroups on Agent by thread. The oldest thread is displayed at the top and the newest at the bottom of the screen. I prefer to have the thread expanded immediately upon downloading of the messages. I, also, have the software set to hide all read messages. So,,,,,,,,,,,, I only see what I have not yet read.
Exactly what you mean by "un-nested" ,,,,,,,,,,, I am not certain.
As a matter of fact, I prefer it if people top-post, as I only will have to scroll down if I need information on what was said previously. Bottom posting to long message threads which have not been snipped, require too much time to get to the new message.
Ask you Admin-Justin fellow to try logging in with a newsgroup server so that he can see what we are complaining about. Perhaps he can stop sipping his soup long enough to figure out why we don't like the DC gateway.
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Joel M. Eichen - 06 Sep 2005 23:24 GMT I agree about top posting. It saves my left mouse button!
Nested means what you are referring to as "under the original." I missed that you are hiding the original threads although you did tell us that before.
I will try to reproduce what you mentioned and I wil ltry to get MS-Outhouse up and running to see how Carabelli sees threads. In the end, some suggestions will be highly appreciated.
Joel
>>REPLY >> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >Stephen (What's a temporary?) >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Administrator - 07 Sep 2005 00:55 GMT Ok. I installed free agent by forte. I set it up to display all posts read or unread, display it. I set it too sort the messages by thread newest first. And I set it to expand all messages
With this setup, I started reading some older posts. I noticed peopl from DC, werent quoting any prior message to reply to. So they ar basically replying to a thread with a new post without any quotes o any information from the message they are replying too
The reason why this is, because its easy to follow on the site. Th site has a "quote button" If you want to reply to a post, that butto should be used so it wont confuse people. When I created this pos right now, I hit the quote button. That creates all the older messag info at the bottom so you guys have an idea of what message I a replying to.
Another problem I noticed with free agent is that if you sorte everything by newest thread first, it works, but the thread itself i organized by oldest to newest, and it looks like it cannot be changed in this view. But if you have read all the messages, and your view i set to "not show read messages and only show unread messages", the this shouldn't be a problem because you wont see the old message anyways
So I think the biggest problem is users posting to SMD, without hittin the quote button
Organizing it by newest messages first, and not by newest thread first seems to be the only way to sort the list by new messages first, even i you havent read them
Of course, then you loose organization by not having it sorted b thread first
I would like to see sorting by the thread with the newest message first, and the messages inside the thread be organized by newest t oldest, even if you have it set to display all messages, unread an read. Maybe I missed that
One thing is for sure, agent has a lot of options. I still like x-news
Joel M. Eichen Wrote:
> I agree about top posting. It saves my left mouse button > [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > >Stephen (What's a temporary? > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- Administrato
Administrator - 07 Sep 2005 00:59 GMT Corrections.
Administrator Wrote:
> Ok. I installed free agent by forte. I set it up to display all posts, > read or unread, display it. I set it too sort the messages by thread, [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > One thing is for sure, agent has a lot of options. I still like x-news.
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Dr. Steve - 07 Sep 2005 16:00 GMT Now set Agent to hide all read messages, and you will see that the postings from DC make zero sense the second time you visit the NG. (Regardless of how you set up Agent to disply the thread--oldes or newst first). Once the rest of the thread is not there,,,,,,,,,, the DC postings look like someone talking to themselves in abusy hallway.
>Ok. I installed free agent by forte. I set it up to display all posts, >read or unread, display it. I set it too sort the messages by thread, [quoted text clipped - 81 lines] >> >Stephen (What's a temporary?) >> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ``````````````````````` Stephen (What's a temporary?) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Administrator - 07 Sep 2005 16:47 GMT Ok. I set agent to display only new messages, and hide all read messages. I then marked everything in SMD as read so that agents view looks completly empty.
I will watch the threads that people from dc post too and see what happens. The first thread I will get to look at is this one right here.
I am interested to know, and the soup has gone dry.
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> Now set Agent to hide all read messages, and you will see that the > postings from DC make zero sense the second time you visit the NG. [quoted text clipped - 103 lines] > Stephen (What's a temporary?) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Administrator - 07 Sep 2005 16:51 GMT Administrator Wrote:
> Ok. I set agent to display only new messages, and hide all rea > messages. I then marked everything in SMD as read so that agents vie [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I am interested to know, and the soup has gone dry. How does it look dr. steve
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Joel M. Eichen - 07 Sep 2005 17:47 GMT Where do you hide messages ... I can't find it!
Joel
>Now set Agent to hide all read messages, and you will see that the >postings from DC make zero sense the second time you visit the NG. [quoted text clipped - 91 lines] >Stephen (What's a temporary?) >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dr. Steve - 07 Sep 2005 15:57 GMT >I will try to reproduce what you mentioned and I wil ltry to get >MS-Outhouse up and running to see how Carabelli sees threads. In the >end, some suggestions will be highly appreciated. Suggestion: log onto a newsgroup server and access the NG in a normal fashion. ``````````````````````` Stephen (What's a temporary?) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Joel M. Eichen - 07 Sep 2005 17:48 GMT >>I will try to reproduce what you mentioned and I wil ltry to get >>MS-Outhouse up and running to see how Carabelli sees threads. In the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Stephen (What's a temporary?) >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Does this imnply that people who do not log on in a normal fashion are not normal?
Joel
Roy Brown - 07 Sep 2005 06:33 GMT I agree.
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"Dr. Steve" <Drsteve@hammer.com> wrote in |
| As a matter of fact, I prefer it if people top-post, as I only will | have to scroll down if I need information on what was said previously. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] | Stephen (What's a temporary?) | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joel M. Eichen - 07 Sep 2005 08:39 GMT Roy's being very agreeable ..... thanks.
Joel
>I agree.
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