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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / August 2005new denture construction
Hi Its something interesting I give shortly more info There is systems whitch helps to get better retension of dentures even when denture is reduce. we could add it to old or new dentures. System is next isseu in these cases when implants are too expensive. the result and efficiency is ok. I will send pictures and more info soon regfards K>P The one that I like is, http://www.dentalresourcesinc.com/ Do not mind the red color ..... I know how to get around it. This i the problem I had with Keystone Industries (manufacturer) two summer ago! They are in my backyard yet communication is so tough! Basically the surface of the denture is soft and gives just enough t mimic the old Vulcanite dentures. Vulcanite WERE the best from a "fit" standpoint. Joe -- Joel34 we made these from some time the comfort for patients is very good .problem is so these dentures doesnt look so good after some time but pro-flex doesnt change phisycal-chemical propriety. technicial problem is apt retension for artificial teeth. Anyway in some cases Its worth traying I am going to make different idea and construction not this one :)) > The one that I like is, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Joel I like the flexible Pro-Flex base processed to Lucitone 199 acrylic (to hold teeth and flanges). We use the wraparound flange technique, meaning the depth of the mucobuccal fold is in contact with Lucitone 199, not Pro-Flex base material. Joel >we made these from some time >the comfort for patients is very good .problem is so these dentures doesnt [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >> >> Joel Its working but The filling from the patients are noit the some. The pro-flex is much more confortable when there is NSC resin of course its more complicated becouse polimerysation in 53Celsjusa but the propriety are better for patient. Thedre is next point using luciton the temperature is higher so it destroy closed cell structur of hard/soft plate regards >I like the flexible Pro-Flex base processed to Lucitone 199 acrylic > (to hold teeth and flanges). We use the wraparound flange technique, [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >>> >>> Joel Interesting point! I never thought of that. Thanks. Joel  SignatureJoel344 sorry for grammatic mistakes :)) The labs are making sometimes bad trick.They use wrong procedure, wrong temperature, and mix ordinary acrylic with NFC resin to spare some money If we use hard/soft plate we got normal denture with long lasting soft material on the bottom but Its thicker so in result we lost advantages for this denture in sums It would be better to make acrylic with soft reline and cheaper but this is different construction regards > Interesting point! I never thought of that. Thanks. > > Joel I do not mind if the male lab techs are making bad tricks, but when the women start doing it, wait, we have plenty of reports of that activity in the morning paper around here. Joel SignatureJoel344 >I do not mind if the male lab techs are making bad tricks, >but when the women start doing it, wait, we have plenty >of reports of that activity in the morning paper around here. > >Joel ITYM 'turning' tricks.... -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com W_B, I heard business is slow at some labs but that is ridiculous ..... -- Joel34 >W_B, > >I heard business is slow at some >labs but that is ridiculous ...... But you said: >but when the women start doing it, wait, we have plenty >of reports of that activity in the morning paper around here. > >Joel -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com check this stuff .Its very usefull :)) http://www.versacryl.net/ regards > The one that I like is, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Joel Please note ...... Versacryl ....... Keystone Industries! It was formerly bitem. Check our archive for bitem! Steve Mancuso has posted about bitem. Joel ** Versacryl Products (formerly known as BITEM) are represented and demonstrated during the International Dental Show (IDS) in Cologne, Germany from April 12 to 16, 2005 at the Keystone Industries booth number: V-062 in Hall 14.2 Come and see what everyone is talking about … SignatureJoel344 LINKS: COMMERCIAL: Read sci.med.dentistry (or its various permutations). You will be two years or four years ahead of the game! PS~ W_B, do not bitem! http://www.versacryl.net/ From the Ol' Man http://tinyurl.com/93833 .. Italy. Mr. Bob Huybrechts flew in *just* to speak to us. He is the inventor the BITEM thermoplastic acrylic material. His presentation ... sci.med.dentistry - May 1 2002, 2:46 pm by Hans Lennros - 7 messages - 4 authors CDT-4 http://tinyurl.com/doe7x You got it! Yes,, BITEM Material -- Joel M. Eichen, DDS Philadelphia PA www.phillyducks.com We’re Just A Duck Call Away! STANDARD ... sci.med.dentistry - Aug 4 2003, 8:51 am by Joel M. Eichen D.D.S. - 26 messages - 7 authors SignatureJoel344 [size=+2] Dear Ol' Man Dr Steve Mancuso, Stevie, Steverino, Stefano, Ol' 'Cuso and Friend. [/size/ FROM THE ARCHIVE: See the point of posting and indexing al lthis dentistry stuff? Its a historical record. Joel May 1 2002, 2:54 pm show options Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry From: "Hans Lennros" <h...@dentistry.se> - Find messages by this author Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 20:56:23 +0200 Local: Wed, May 1 2002 2:56 pm Subject: Re: From the Ol' Man Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse Dear Ol' Man Dr Steve Mancuso, Stevie, Steverino, Stefano, Ol' 'Cuso and Friend. YOU are the one we all are greatful to, because without you this 1st SMD meeting would never had come true. Your organisation was perfect and your way of rapping everything up and finding common platforms from which new idéas will spring, is just outstanding. Your pal for life is full of admiration, Hans PS: And thank you for this sum up. It goes directly to the SMD file archive. ==============================Â========================= SignatureJoel344 Dang! BAD CODE .. Where is that blankity-blank EDIT button .....? Dear Ol' Man Dr Steve Mancuso, Stevie, Steverino, Stefano, Ol' 'Cuso and Friend. FROM THE ARCHIVE: See the point of posting and indexing al lthis dentistry stuff? Its a historical record. Joel May 1 2002, 2:54 pm show options Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry From: "Hans Lennros" - Find messages by this author Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 20:56:23 +0200 Local: Wed, May 1 2002 2:56 pm Subject: Re: From the Ol' Man Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show origina | Report Abuse Dear Ol' Man Dr Steve Mancuso, Stevie, Steverino, Stefano, Ol' 'Cus and Friend. YOU are the one we all are greatful to, because without you this 1s SMD meeting would never had come true. Your organisation was perfect an your way of rapping everything up and finding common platforms from whic new idéas will spring, is just outstanding. Your pal for life is full of admiration, Hans PS: And thank you for this sum up. It goes directly to the SMD fil archive. ==============================Â================== ====== -- Joel34 >[...] > > Vulcanite WERE the best from a "fit" standpoint. Were? I'll bet there is a Joel story behind the use of that word. I not sure the "fit" comment is true. It is my understanding that vulcanite was kinder to the soft tissues than acrylic because is was non-porous, but I doubt the fit was significantly better then a carefully made acrylic resin one. Dr. G. > Joel SignaturePlease reply via newsgroup. Vulcanite, going by the name itself, was comprised of processe (Vulcanized) rubber. The rubber base flexed a bit. Therefore it tende not to erode the alveolus undelying and supporting it, thus a bette fit. The porcelain teeth were attached by means of an embedded gol retention knob (pin) for anteriors and a small diatoric box fo posteriors. But on occasion one of those little pins gave way or th patient chipped a tooth by dropping it into the sink. What to do? If one is good with such repairs, one could undercut the Vulcanite bas and then reattach a new replacement tooth. Alternatively, like Valplas they could be reprocessed at the lab. To remove a porcelain tooth from a Vulcanite base or from an acryli base the best method is to use a Buffalo torch with the little flam thrower. If you heat up the porcelain tooth carefully, the acryli itself that holds the tooth softens, and then while soft, it can b dislodged from the denture by using a Hollenbeck carver or somethin like that.. Joe -- Joel34 |
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