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Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 23 Aug 2005 15:02 GMT
    Anyone have a good technique for removing old fossilized rubber door
gaskets?  The American Dental Accessories removal tool seems worthless
to me; I've destroyed a lab knife and cut up my fingers.  Is there some
magic gasket sauce?  Help!!

Steve

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Amatus Cremona - 23 Aug 2005 15:15 GMT
> Anyone have a good technique for removing old fossilized rubber door
> gaskets?  The American Dental Accessories removal tool seems worthless to
> me; I've destroyed a lab knife and cut up my fingers.  Is there some magic
> gasket sauce?  Help!!

What brand and model?

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Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 23 Aug 2005 16:18 GMT
>>Anyone have a good technique for removing old fossilized rubber door
>>gaskets?  The American Dental Accessories removal tool seems worthless to
>>me; I've destroyed a lab knife and cut up my fingers.  Is there some magic
>>gasket sauce?  Help!!
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> What brand and model?

Castle Speed-Clave 777

Steve

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Amatus Cremona - 23 Aug 2005 18:11 GMT
> Castle Speed-Clave 777

I am not familiar with that one.  Can you soften the rubber with your Hanau
alcohol torch, then scrape it away using a razor blade?  Would an adhesive
remover (such as Goo-Gone) help soften any thin pieces left over?  If you
call your supply house, what do they advise?

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Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 23 Aug 2005 19:20 GMT
>>Castle Speed-Clave 777
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> I am not familiar with that one.  Can you soften the rubber with your Hanau
> alcohol torch, then scrape it away using a razor blade?  Would an adhesive
> remover (such as Goo-Gone) help soften any thin pieces left over?  If you
> call your supply house, what do they advise?

    The problem with cutting with a straight razor is the gasket lies
totally over a curled metal rim.
    I finally got it out by ditching the inner edge of the gasket with a
557 fg.  There's black dust all over the operatory.
    I think that's enough material to write a song...

Steve

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Amatus Cremona - 23 Aug 2005 19:28 GMT
> The problem with cutting with a straight razor is the gasket lies totally
> over a curled metal rim.
> I finally got it out by ditching the inner edge of the gasket with a 557
> fg.  There's black dust all over the operatory.
> I think that's enough material to write a song...

How often are you supposed to change this gasket?

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Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 23 Aug 2005 19:40 GMT
>>The problem with cutting with a straight razor is the gasket lies totally
>>over a curled metal rim.
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> How often are you supposed to change this gasket?

    I change it when the autoclave starts leaking.  This is a very old,
bare-bones autoclave.  I've used them for years, and they never fail a
spore test.
    I took a chance and bought this one on ebay.  There was a short in the
wiring that I fixed, and then I noticed it leaked before pressure was
reached.  It's going to be my backup.

Steve

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Amatus Cremona - 23 Aug 2005 20:07 GMT
> I took a chance and bought this one on ebay.  There was a short in the
> wiring that I fixed, and then I noticed it leaked before pressure was
> reached.  It's going to be my backup.

We try to change the gaskets once a year as a preventative measure.  I can
understand the reluctance to invest lots of money into a used machine until
you know for sure that it works well.

Personally, I prefer the electronic autoclaves that vent and shut off by
themselves.  I have never been able to get staff to be consistent at
rotating dials on a manual autoclave, therefore, one cycle would end up
running for 5-6 hours instead of 45 minutes.  I figure the savings in
electricity (and stress) pay for the machine.  Every 18-24 months, the
electronic autoclaves seem to require some service though.  I have an old
OCM in the back room for use when the big modern one is out for service.
Some office manage to hire staff people who actually pay attention to the
autoclave and spin the dial at the right times.  I never was so lucky.

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Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 23 Aug 2005 21:43 GMT
>>I took a chance and bought this one on ebay.  There was a short in the
>>wiring that I fixed, and then I noticed it leaked before pressure was
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> autoclave and spin the dial at the right times.  I never was so lucky.

    The Castle has a mechanical timer--shuts off after 30 minutes.  You do
have to remember to vent though.

Steve

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718-258-5001

Amatus Cremona - 23 Aug 2005 22:47 GMT
> The Castle has a mechanical timer--shuts off after 30 minutes.  You do
> have to remember to vent though.

That is better than the P-C that you have to rotate the dial to fill, to
start the cycle, the stop the cycle and to begin venting, then open the door
physically.  There were days when the ladies would only run one cycle for
the entire day--one 6 hour cycle.

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>>>wiring that I fixed, and then I noticed it leaked before pressure was
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carabelli - 23 Aug 2005 15:20 GMT
> Anyone have a good technique for removing old fossilized rubber door
> gaskets?  The American Dental Accessories removal tool seems worthless
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> Brooklyn, NY
> 718-258-5001

try one of those razor  blade gadgets for scraping paint off windows.  And
warm the autoclave up a little first.

carabelli
W_B - 23 Aug 2005 16:13 GMT
>> Anyone have a good technique for removing old fossilized rubber door
>> gaskets?  The American Dental Accessories removal tool seems worthless
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>carabelli

and wear chain mail gloves...
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W_B
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Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 23 Aug 2005 16:19 GMT
>>Anyone have a good technique for removing old fossilized rubber door
>>gaskets?  The American Dental Accessories removal tool seems worthless
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> carabelli

    Worth a try.  I already tried cutting notches in in with my high-speed.

Steve

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