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Just a short note. I have been posting to smd for well over 10 years. Usenet was what it was. SMD is no longer just a newsgroup with the gateway up and running. I was quite content with it (and especially since due to a group effort most of the resident malcontents quit posting when they were ignored). Now all the dentalcom posters have to learn what the old smd'ers did to reclaim their posting area. Nothing ever remains the same, I'm not really angry about the gateway, but not really happy either. Truthfully, I have wasted way too much time here anyway. Anyone that wanted to post on DT or DC was well aware, the old gang just wasn't interested. Again, you all take care. carabelli You HAVE been missed. Have you found a better newsgroup. What does gateway mean. Naive questions, perhaps. We look for familiar people, with or without excluding the new ones. Gail > Just a short note. I have been posting to smd for well over 10 years. > Usenet was what it was. SMD is no longer just a newsgroup with the gateway [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > carabelli Thanks Carabelli for your comments. This is extremely enlightening. You already know that I respect your opinion immensely. The DentalCom gang are a very polite and reasonable group! What you are observing is the new synergism, not anything on DentalCom's part. You must see from where the posts are originating. Over here I can see the difference. So you may not have this figured out exactly right! It can be interesting to come over to DentalCom.Net, sign up and then look through the Members List. You will be a little surprised as to who is on the list and who is not. TO GAIL: As time moves forward more and more people are becoming squeezed out of Usenet. In fact, on another board some people ask, "What are newsgroups?" Some ISPs are dropping usenet entirely, except for perhaps members who have certain ahemmmmm, alternative views on life. Unless someone has a specific interest, and a specific desire (as we all do) more and more people are moving to the web. This means hypertext transfer protocol (this is the http you see at the beginning of URLs). At Usenet, also known as newsgroups, it is a different protocol, or nttp, which refers to network news transfer protocol. So the GATEWAY that we got is this: nttp - - - -- > http http - - - - - -> nttp. This permits the free exchange of ideas. Of course its still up to individuals to police themselves and to refrain from too much combat concerning controversial topics. This is exactly like the REAL WORLD. REAL WORLD STORY I was approached by a couple of missionaries from the Mormon Church this week. We politely discussed dentistry. Somewhere along the conversation they asked if I had studied the Book of Mormon. I reported that I had read some of it. End of Mormon discussion. I was somewhat pleased with myself that I refrained from telling them all I knew about the Mormons, the books I have read, the history, the flaws in their sacred texts, you know, all the stuff that makes usenet sometimes very interesting. So it goes. I can still play these discussions out inside my own brain, that you may have surmised is still a very active place! Joel  SignatureJoel344 Ooooops, I tried to edit but I forgot one cannot edit these posts! Okay adding this: Let's say I only want to discuss whatever I want to discuss with Sue BillKatz, Justin, Flap, and ...... well you fill in the blank. Oh forgot ... MartyCollinsRDH! Sheesh, I almost forgot. Let's say I do not care what anyone else has to say. I do not even wan to read it. So why not simply block everyone else? Wouldn't that work? Joel That way, the people who want more get more while the people who wan less get less -- Joel34 carabelli Wrote: > Just a short note. I have been posting to smd for well over 10 years > Usenet was what it was. SMD is no longer just a newsgroup with th [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > carabelli We have under 10 active posters.... -- Administrato I could split the active posts and SMD posts into 2 different searches I have been thinking about doing this because DC has now a majority o SMD posts I dont have any plans on turning the gateway off. Too many of my user enjoy it. I do have an idea of how you feel. Most of the posts latel have been SMD related (Though I thought this would happen if I put i the gateway) Play pacman! Its a great way to be productive, especially at th office = -- Administrato The only way the gateway we will turn it off, is if we have a poll vot on DC, and whichever way the poll will swing, thats what we will do. have an idea about where it will swing. If there is one unhappy SM user over the gateway, then I dont look at it as a big deal, there i always going to be one. I have learned this with almost every hack have installed. But if there are people on SMD coming out of the woo work, then thats a different story -- Administrato Strange, there are so few active posters on DC I cant see how you guy take such offense. It sounds to me like you guys have fought hard fo your tight knit group, and you want to keep it that way. Remember on thing, usenet newsgroups are PUBLIC. Not private -- Administrato I am certain the whole thing is being misunderstood. Here is th DentalCom list: a. Joel344 (me!) b. Justin aka Administrator, aka Justin aka JShafer. c. Bill Katz d. Sue Madden aka Sue aka Sue Madden e. MartyCollinsRDH aka the hygienist. f. Letsconnect g. ummmmmmm. The rest are posting from sci.med.dentistry, not from here. How do I know? Every poster who connects from SMD has a "n/a" liste near the number of posts. Everyone posting from here either has number for the number of posts or is posting as anonymous. So blaming the traffic as being from DentalCom is an oversimplifaction Yeah sure, there are more responses to questions. But that is about it So why not simply block the people you do not want to hear from? So far, in my opinion, all the discussions have been pretty great! As for feeds, RSS, etc., if you turn on your cell phone and yo suddenly see Sue Madden's picture, well do not blame me! Joel Administrator Wrote: > Strange, there are so few active posters on DC I cant see how you guy > take such offense. It sounds to me like you guys have fought hard fo > your tight knit group, and you want to keep it that way. Remember on > thing, usenet newsgroups are PUBLIC. Not private -- Joel34 > I am certain the whole thing is being misunderstood. Here is the > DentalCom list: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > The rest are posting from sci.med.dentistry, not from here. Actually, I'm posting from Google Groups... so it's really only a handful of people from DC... newsgroups were before my time... Right you are Letsconn ..... The image below shows the tip-off ..... To tell you the truth, I tend not to notice, but judge people more by the content of their posts than by the color of their ISP ..... Sounds like Martin Luther King a bit .... sorry! Jopel ** (IMAGE viewable by people of all persuasions). http://tinypic.com/ay3koz.jpg and . [image: http://tinypic.com/ay3koz.jpg] . -- Joel34 What's the advantage of DentalCom over the usenet scheme of things? I you look at this thread, http://dentalcom.net/forum/showthread.php?p=13016 which is, LEWIS WROTE, Veneer case to close diastema -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is my first post to this forum and thought I would share a venee case we completed to close a diastema between #8 & #9. This case show the results that can be obtained by proper planning, preparation an material selection. Any comments appreciated. END ...... Reply You will see a series of beautiful color photos illustrating a poin about dentistry. If you cannot see the photos then you are missin something interesting. Ths is what kind of got me -hooked on DentalCo .... - well that plus the folks here ...... of course the SMD folk are very super people too. Joe -- Joel34 > I could split the active posts and SMD posts into 2 different searches. I have been thinking about doing this because DC has now a majority of SMD posts. The monster gateway is Google's Groups which culls all kinds of newsfeeds, not DC. Cropping or splitting the searches won't do much since it's already "Googled" long before it gets to DC. Ok everybody, This gateway was originally my idea and from what I gather from severa posts, poignantly I fell at fault. The gateway was never intended to ac as an interloper onto SMD. Its purpose was to establish a connection t newsfeeds like SMD for those who couldn’t access public newsgroup like SMD because of different mitigating factors (like their ISP’ unwillingness to provide newsfeeds or simply a lack of expertise o setting up OE). Since DentalCom is principally a dental related site SMD was an obvious choice. It was never my intent to trespass onto what I assumed was a publi newsfeed. I also know Justin, the SysOp of DC (who did all the har work) and I know he’s very particular about keeping things well unde control on his board. FWIW, gateways are nothing new. Back in the early 80’s I was one o the coordinators of a group called Fido. Back then, users had to lo into BBS’s in order to read newsfeeds since there was no Interne per-se. There were only the hobbyists, universities and Arpanet. Th gateway that’s been established here allows regular HTML users t access your posts and believe me; this board has lots of readers (man don’t post, but readers nonetheless). This gateway also allows user to convert the newsfeeds into RSS and read/post from a cell phone o PDA if they wish. What the heck, I thought it was a good idea. Carabelli, Dr. Steve, I’m sorry if I’ve caused discourse. It wa never my intent to do so. It was my intent to bring in like minde individuals, but from what I’ve read, it hasn’t turned out tha way. I’ll be the first to sign off if I’m not welcome here. Bil -- billkat billkatz Wrote: > Ok everybody > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Bill FIDO! I forgot all about FIDO. Those really were the old days -- Administrato Hi Carabelli, I have tried SMD in the past, but I enjoy the more organized format that Justin has here. I found the news group format difficult to use. I am really sorry if this gateway has caused a feeling of invasion for the SMD folks. Personally, I was very excited to see all of these new people and hoping to have some good discussion!! I hope you can give this a little more time before you jump to negative conclusions. I think it may be just a matter of getting to know one another. Dcom really only has a few posters. We are all good people. IMHO, I don't think any of us wish to take over your discussion group or to push anyone out. We only want to be able to get to know you and take part in your discussions within this new format. (At least that is my perspective). I hope you do not leave SMD over this. If you have any suggestions that could help us with some sort of compromise that would keep you here and posting, that would be wonderful. If it is our style posting, what we post or whatever. I hate to see anyone leave a healthy discussion group because of a format change and/or new voices. Thank you if you can keep an open mind. Sincerely, Sue SignatureSue Sue, I see your viewpoint completly. And I can see theres. I dont wan them to leave SMD either. Guys, the only people from DC who regularl post are, joel, billkatz, myself, sue, and we see shad and amber o occasion. Thats about it. We do have a lot of lurkers. Around 90% o visitors just like to read -- Administrato Maybe people would like it if I posted under my real account, and no the administrator account.. -- jshafer81 Justin Shafer Onsite Dental Systems 2232 Solona St. Fort Worth, TX. 76117 (817) 909-4222 jshafer817@comcast.ne >Maybe people would like it if I posted under my real account, and not >the administrator account... Maybe it would be better if yous all quoted something of the post you're replying to so that we know what you're talking about. Reading lists of disjointed comments is boring and useless. Tom > Maybe it would be better if you all quoted something of the post > you're replying to so that we know what you're talking about. > > Reading lists of disjointed comments is boring and useless. How do I improve on that posting? Signature/ Amatus / > >>Maybe people would like it if I posted under my real account, and not [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Tom RE: SMD-Dentcom gateway How do I find SMD so I can see what it is that you are talking about? I am not sure how posts from Dcom are displayed at SMD. It will help me to understand the format concerns. Thanks, Sue SignatureSue Look inot http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.dentistry?lnk=li&hl=e - -- billkat billkatz Wrote: > Look inot http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.dentistry?lnk=li&hl=e > > -b Bill, That actually looks really neat! The last time I saw the Scime newsgroup it was in a different format. I like your link better Thanks -- Su An ALIAS for groups.google.com is www.deja.com. I tried posting from there yesterday. Oy vey! Sign in, sign out ....... that's why I hate it. W_B probably hates it too as each page contains plenty of ads on the right side. Each one, say MedKB has advantages, disadvantages. Justin's efforts (www.DentalCom.net) are by far the best on the 'net. Joel Joel SignatureJoel344 ONE PERSON'S OPINION .... Mine! I am pleased with the new response t sci.med.dentistry/MedKB/DentalCom.net/GoogleGroups Why? There are many new quality posters and many quality old posters Quality posters means real people posting about real issues. I vow t keep my promise not to respond to, or to bait, or otherwise tittilat people who are responding to "non-quality" issues. The non-qualit issues are also here. No one can "censor anything" without censorin too much. That was the decision by the U.S. Third Circuit Court i 2001. I agree. Sometimes we have to put up with more than we want to in order to avoid getting MUCH LESS than we need. Hey! Isn't this what a dental newsgroup is about? Aren't these ALL denta discussions? Now if I want to keep it like it was, its too simple. All's I have t do is to block everyone other than the three or six people that I wan to reply to. Its too simple. Or I can establish an e-mail listserv an its the same. Joel So what am I missing here -- Joel34 This is just a guess, but my guess is that the sudden flurry of ne posts, the huge gaggle of new posters is partially ..... a result o references to images within our posts. Yeah of course anyone ca include the URL of the image within one's post but some of the htt sites are stripping out references to images. www.DentalCom.net does not strip them out and offers a link to the htt site so people can view the images in real time. Others can view th image through a link. I will post the link two ways .. embedded within the body using [ i m ] tags and separately as a hyperlink. Here is an example: I think this is increasing traffic. Joel The embedded image ..... CEREC! (This is not available o nthe 'net). . [image: http://tinypic.com/b4au6o.jpg] . The hyperlink to same: http://tinypic.com/b4au6o.jp -- Joel34 Hi JME! Youse wrote: The embedded image ..... CEREC! (This is not available o nthe 'net). [image: http://tinypic.com/b4au6o.jpg] The hyperlink to same: http://tinypic.com/b4au6o.jpg What is the difference? Are you saying that putting square brackets and "img" around a link will shield it from being stripped from the various web servers? And while we are at it: how do you make square brakets on a Windoze Box? I tried holding down the Windoze key and typing "()" but all it did was launch eighteen nuclear rockets towards the planet "Ralph".... :-/ Sorry about that.... Thanks SP I can embed graphics (inline graphics) into DentalCom.net by enclosin the URL in what we call [ i m g ] tags without the spaces. If I do this the image appears while the individual is reading th text. This is done without the spaces, as example: [ i m g ] http://tinypic.com/b4au6o.jpg [ / i m g ] and [image: http://tinypic.com/b4au6o.jpg] . same code, the image gets rendered! . The reason why I have to put in the spaces is that if I do not, th software will render the image and replace the code with an image. No when this gets rendered at DentalCom.net is also gets CONVERTED to, [image: http://tinypic.com/b4au6o.jpg] for distribution elsewhere. I am including some spaces as I am not sure if this will be rendered o not. [ i m a g e : http://tinypic.com/b4au6o.jpg ] and finally, http://tinypic.com/b4au6o.jpg will return the hyperlink which is clickable in either DentalCom.net MedKB, Google, and elsewhere but not in sci.med.dentistry is one use Forte Free Agent. If one uses MS-Outlook, then it is clickable and th images are/are not rendered depending on which code one uses. The [ i m g ] tags are vBulletin tags. The "[" and "]" are the two keys found directly above the " quote mar and right between the "p" and the "\" Joe -- Joel34 I seperated the two searches on the site. Now its easier to tell th difference between the two.. There is SMD Topics, and DC Topics.. -- jshafer81 A+ N+ MCP2000 Microsoft Certified Professional and Red Hat Linu Certified Technician Justin Shafer Onsite Dental Systems Fort Worth, TX. 817909422 Click on the attachment link at the bottom of the site. +------------------------------------------------------------------- |Filename: Untitled-3.jpg |Download: http://dentalcom.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=702 +------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Administrato A+ N+ MCP2000 Microsoft Certified Professional and Red Hat Linu Certified Technicia Justin Shafe Onsite Dental System Fort Worth, TX 817909422 ' (http://tinyurl.com/5jhcs > Click on the attachment link at the bottom of the site.. > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ > |Filename: Untitled-3.jpg | > |Download: http://dentalcom.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=702| > +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ > ' (http://tinyurl.com/5jhcs) I'm quite curious how the link above ends up going to Microsoft at: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=321CD7A2-6A57-4C57-A8BD -DBF62EDA9671&displaylang=en The tinyurl link, I believe, is from one of joel's posts. Its redirects you to microsofts site. I know you can go to tinyurl.com, and make your own url. A url is like http://www.google.com. You can take a really long url, like the microsoft link, and shorten it down to something really small, and easy for people to remember, and the link wont take up so much space in a post. Thats what the tinyurl service does. Its free, and you can take a really long url and shorten it down. Its a redirector service. Signaturejshafer817 A+ N+ MCP2000 Microsoft Certified Professional and Red Hat Linux Certified Technician Justin Shafer Onsite Dental Systems Fort Worth, TX. 8179094222 Redirect! Go to www.tinyurl.com Enter the l-o-oo-o-o-oo-o-o-g URL. Hit GO! Copy the new URL. Joel . [image: http://tinypic.com/b9gifp.jpg] . SignatureJoel344 well thats just plain lame. > Redirect! > Go to www.tinyurl.com [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > . Tim Dixon Wrote: > well thats just plain lame > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Joel344's Profile: http://dentalcom.net/forum/member.php?userid=1 > > View this thread: http://dentalcom.net/forum/showthread.php?t=271 Then why did you ask -- Administrato A+ N+ MCP2000 Microsoft Certified Professional and Red Hat Linu Certified Technicia Justin Shafe Onsite Dental System Fort Worth, TX 817909422 ' (http://tinyurl.com/5jhcs > Tim Dixon Wrote: >> well thats just plain lame. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >> > > Then why did you ask? I asked why there is a link that goes somewhere that isn't clearly understandable by the link itself. And so I think thats pretty lame. Just like I think your gateway to SMD/USENET threads are lame. > I asked why there is a link that goes somewhere that isn't clearly > understandable by the link itself. And so I think that's pretty lame. > Just like I think your gateway to SMD/USENET threads are lame. hear hear. I now filter out any posts coming from DC. Too hard to follow any conversations. Signature/ Amatus / > >> Tim Dixon Wrote: [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > understandable by the link itself. And so I think thats pretty lame. > Just like I think your gateway to SMD/USENET threads are lame. Amatus Cremona Wrote: > > I asked why there is a link that goes somewhere that isn't clearl > > understandable by the link itself. And so I think that's pretty lame [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > Just like I think your gateway to SMD/USENET threads are lame > >Thats fine. You guys really should stick to something thats "easy t follow"... DC might be too complex for your simple minds.. Web based posting to a newsgroup.. -- Administrato A+ N+ MCP2000 Microsoft Certified Professional and Red Hat Linu Certified Technicia Justin Shafe Onsite Dental System Fort Worth, TX 817909422 ' (http://tinyurl.com/5jhcs If you guys cant understand something simple as web based posting, o even something simple as tinyurl, a free redirector service that joe likes, then I dont really care if you like dentalcom or not. Your jus being pricks to joel, and to me, and your finding crazy reasons t start an argument I think you are lame I think I see why you guys hide out here. And why the amount of SM posts are following in the past few years You think people that spent this much time in school, could grasp eas concepts, or at least have the respect not to diss something jus because someone else likes it. But I guess not Next time you guys want to know what tinyurl is, go look it u yourself Glad I'm not your patient -- Administrato A+ N+ MCP2000 Microsoft Certified Professional and Red Hat Linu Certified Technicia Justin Shafe Onsite Dental System Fort Worth, TX 817909422 ' (http://tinyurl.com/5jhcs Ahh shoot. I thought we were going to get some really good discussion going It looks like the gateway has become a invasion for the SMD usenet group *If there was away that we could combine *our posts in a format that was not so *confusing, it may work.* There is no good reason to fight about it Justin. That only creates bad feelings and burns bridges. We have to be considerat of their veiwpoints, IMHO. -Su -- Su > Ahh shoot. I thought we were going to get > some really good discussion going. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > of their veiwpoints, IMHO. > -Sue Why don't you all just leave USENET to be USENET. We don't care what you do on the web, but your running into USENET puritans who don't see it as you do, and infact look at you as invaders of our little corner of the net. Then ignore the userbase... I dont care what you do. We are people just like you, but instead of posting through news readers, we do it through a website. You need a bowl of cry baby soup. Usenet is public, get used to it. We will post here if we want. SignatureAdministrator A+ N+ MCP2000 Microsoft Certified Professional and Red Hat Linux Certified Technician Justin Shafer Onsite Dental Systems Fort Worth, TX. 8179094222 ' ' (http://tinyurl.com/5jhcs) > Then ignore the userbase... I dont care what you do. We are people just > like you, but instead of posting through news readers, we do it through [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Usenet is public, get used to it. We will post here if we want. Hey think what you want, we will. Say what you want, we will. And all that .sig stuff, isn't impressive, and is only clutter, really! Tim Dixon Wrote: > > Then ignore the userbase... I dont care what you do. We are people > just [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > that > ..sig stuff, isn't impressive, and is only clutter, really! Yeah, and when we patients walk into your office we REALLY are impressed with all the credentials hanging on your walls. Its actually my sig from dentaltown and dc. Its my sig, and I can use it if I want. I know a guy who has literally 25 different certifications. His signature would be so long you wouldnt be able to stand it. Of course, leave it up to someone to complain about a signature. I am going to do that next time I go to the dentist. =) Why do you got all this stuff up on the walls? Are you trying to impress me, doc? Thats why you need a bowl of cry baby soup. Shoot, at least I dont have to change the title of my name to get everybody to know what I do. SignatureAdministrator A+ N+ MCP2000 Microsoft Certified Professional and Red Hat Linux Certified Technician Justin Shafer Onsite Dental Systems Fort Worth, TX. 8179094222 ' ' (http://tinyurl.com/5jhcs) Administrator Wrote: > Yeah, and when we patients walk into your office we REALLY are impressed > with all the credentials hanging on your walls. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Shoot, at least I dont have to change the title of my name to get > everybody to know what I do. Besides, If I just put up MCP, and RHCE, I doubt you would have any idea of what that is. SignatureAdministrator A+ N+ MCP2000 Microsoft Certified Professional and Red Hat Linux Certified Technician Justin Shafer Onsite Dental Systems Fort Worth, TX. 8179094222 ' ' (http://tinyurl.com/5jhcs) > Administrator Wrote: >> Yeah, and when we patients walk into your office we REALLY are impressed [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Besides, If I just put up MCP, and RHCE, I doubt you would have any > idea of what that is. There you go again making assumptions. Maybe you should stick to moderating your own boards and we'll be just happy as pie to say goodbye. Justin I think it is best if you cool off and regroup right now, IMHO This will only get very ugly if you continue to talk about this while you are angry. You guys are only ticking each other off more an more and both of you are making less and less sense As DC, we cannot force ourselves on anyone. Perhaps we can physicall do so by creating a gateway... but we will never gain acceptance or b able to have any civil conversation by FORCING our way in Justin you have control over Dcom... but not over SMD. If this turn into a battle there is no way this gateway will work to increase D registration. JMHO *But dang. I am often wrong about this stuff.* Some people LOV conflict.... I don't.. Just my 2 cents Su -- Su > Tim Dixon Wrote: >> > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > Shoot, at least I dont have to change the title of my name to get > everybody to know what I do. You are assuming I am a dentist, which I am not. That aside, I have been a reg in this group since 1994. For all you claim to be doing for dentistry you sure have a bad attitude about dentists in general. You should consider doing something else with your "credentials". Tim Dixon Wrote: > > Ahh shoot. I thought we were going to ge > > some really good discussion going [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > yo > do, and infact look at you as invaders of our little corner of the net. Then ignore the userbase... I dont care what you do. We are people jus like you, but instead of posting through news readers, we do it throug a website. You need a bowl of cry baby soup Usenet is public, get used to it. We will post here if we want -- Administrato A+ N+ MCP2000 Microsoft Certified Professional and Red Hat Linu Certified Technicia Justin Shafe Onsite Dental System Fort Worth, TX 817909422 ' (http://tinyurl.com/5jhcs > Tim Dixon Wrote: >> > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Usenet is public, get used to it. We will post here if we want. Whaaaaaaaaaaaaa we'll post here if we want to... WHO CARES LAMER????????????????? Doesn't mean we have to like you or your LAME method of doing it. Tim Dixon Wrote: > > Tim Dixon Wrote: > >> > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > method > of doing it.I am only keeping this up because I my users like it. I could honestly care less what you guys discuss. I dont read any other thread relating to dentistry. I am not a dentist. I dont care if you like your way of doing things. Just because you like using usenet the old fashoined way doesnt mean your stupid. As a pc tech, I still have to use a command line interface, and I often prefer it over a mouse. Its faster for me. But to go out and call web based posting lame, is just ridiculous. And when I say my user base I am talking about users who use dentalcom to post. The same guys who once used newsgroup software or other ways to post. Suddently you dont like their new way of posting. I dont care if you guys dont like dc. To me, it just seems that you either like your old way, or your stubborn and ignorant. Do you treat people this way face to face? I wonder.... There is a poll vote on dc to keep the gateway or not. Your vote is welcomed, but registration is required. =) SignatureAdministrator A+ N+ MCP2000 Microsoft Certified Professional and Red Hat Linux Certified Technician Justin Shafer Onsite Dental Systems Fort Worth, TX. 8179094222 ' ' (http://tinyurl.com/5jhcs) > Tim Dixon Wrote: >> > [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > There is a poll vote on dc to keep the gateway or not. Your vote is > welcomed, but registration is required. Oh boy i'm impressed, a PC technician who uses a command prompt. How about a young network admin who was nice enough to create a site fo free out of his own spare time at the request of other dentists who liv in other parts of the united states DC isnt free, and I pay for it. I dont charge anything to dentists wh want to use it. I promise to let anyone talk about anything, as long a its not spam. This was a problem for us at one point in time, and it the reasion why dc was created I even added an arcade, so guys who know eachother over the internet could play eachother if they wanted too. Which was something else know other dentists wanted to do on other sites Other people can at least show appreciation, but not everybody I guess I am at a loss. Why is it hard to follow the conversations? Its very easy for me. With dentalcom, and xnews software And honestly were not "combining" anything. Look at the site. Your par of the site is seperate from ours -- Administrato A+ N+ MCP2000 Microsoft Certified Professional and Red Hat Linu Certified Technicia Justin Shafe Onsite Dental System Fort Worth, TX 817909422 ' (http://tinyurl.com/5jhcs This is exactly the kind of crap that drove me off DT. >Tim Dixon Wrote: >> > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > >Usenet is public, get used to it. We will post here if we want. ``````````````````````` Stephen (What's a temporary?) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >This is exactly the kind of crap that drove me off DT. What ? the crybaby soup ? Prolly not seasoned very well. <VBSEG> -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com W_B Wrote: > On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 21:20:52 GMT, Dr. Steve <DRSTEVE@HAMMER.COM>wrote > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Take out the G'RBAG > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Well perhaps Dr. Steve will now be leaving SMD That's too bad, but his choice -- Su REPLY Actually most men claim they have no idea what binaries are either yet those binary newsgroups are HUGE!~ C'Mon Sue, fess up! Joel And seriously, I appreciate any lesson in usenet netiquette that yo are willing to share. Thanks Tim & Bill for explaining binary. I had n idea what you were talking about. We (Dcom) are a small group. We should be able to work within you expected boundaries without remaining PITAs (I hope!) Su -- Joel34 Joel344 Wrote: > REPLY > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Joel, Now don't making trouble with your binary jokes. Who owns Sci med anyway? Thanks -Sue SignatureSue The human beings own it ...... Each ISP who so desires ... or so desired during the past 20 year installed a network news (nntp) server. As they get messages, fo example this one, the messages are relayed all around the world, serve to server. We access from each server. This was the original meaning of decentralized computing which wa mandated to avoid a crippling (nuclear) blow to a centralized syste located say, in Washington DC ...... from the Soviet Union or someon else! Locally, bulletin boards served similar function. These were all tex based which is why the tradition continues. Joel Sue Wrote: > Joel, Now don't making trouble with your binary jokes. Who owns Sci me > anyway? Thanks -Su -- Joel34 Sue Wrote: > Joel, Now don't making trouble with your binary jokes. Who owns Sci me > anyway? Thanks -Sue YousNet. Yous, Mees and Everybodyelses who reads it -- billkat billkatz Wrote: > YousNet. Yous, Mees and Everybodyelses who reads it. So in other words Sci Med is public domain, not private like Dentaltown. So anyone can access and use it. Our gateway is just a different avenue for accessing SMD than through the usenet. Is this correct? -Sue SignatureSue Yes this is true. The only thing that can happen is that someone can claim you are harrassing them or something but they have to send their driver's license in or something ... the details escape me ..... Joe -- Joel34 I heard you can get kicked out for lying but no one ever explained how they determine who is lying and who is not -- Joel34 Sue UseNet is like asking "what is the internet?" UseNet feeds vary fro anything to possibly everything that one can discuss. Nobody own UseNet and everybody owns UseNet, so yes, in a way, it is public domai as long as those posting understand that copyrights and intellectua property should be respected Here's some info on UseNet - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usene And here's a sampling of daily traffic <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 border=1><TBODY><TR><T style="TEXT-ALIGN: right">4.5 'GB (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabyte)</TD><TD>1996-12</TD><TD>Altopia.com</TD>< /TR><TR><T style="TEXT-ALIGN: right"> GB</TD><TD>1997-07</TD><TD>Altopia.com</TD></TR><TR><T style="TEXT-ALIGN: right">1 GB</TD><TD>1998-01</TD><TD>Altopia.com</TD></TR><TR><T style="TEXT-ALIGN: right">2 GB</TD><TD>1999-01</TD><TD>Altopia.com</TD></TR><TR><T style="TEXT-ALIGN: right">8 GB</TD><TD>2000-01</TD><TD>Altopia.com</TD></TR><TR><T style="TEXT-ALIGN: right">18 GB</TD><TD>2001-01</TD><TD>Altopia.com</TD></TR><TR><T style="TEXT-ALIGN: right">25 GB</TD><TD>2002-01</TD><TD>Altopia.com</TD></TR><TR><T style="TEXT-ALIGN: right">49 GB</TD><TD>2003-01</TD><TD>Altopia.com</TD></TR><TR><T style="TEXT-ALIGN: right">96 GB</TD><TD>2004-01</TD><TD>Altopia.com</TD></TR><TR><T style="TEXT-ALIGN: right">1.30 'TB (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terabyte)</TD><TD>2004-09-30</TD><TD>Octanews.net</ TD></TR><TR><T style="TEXT-ALIGN: right">1.2 TB</TD><TD>2004-11-30</TD><TD>Octanews.net</TD></TR><TR><T style="TEXT-ALIGN: right">1.3 TB</TD><TD>2004-12-31</TD><TD>Octanews.net</TD></TR><TR><T style="TEXT-ALIGN: right">1.3 TB</TD><TD>2005-01-01</TD><TD>Octanews.net</TD></TR><TR><T style="TEXT-ALIGN: right">1.3 TB</TD><TD>2005-01-01</TD><TD>Newsreader.com</TD></TR><TR><T style="TEXT-ALIGN: right">1.6 TB</TD><TD>2005-01-31</TD><TD>Octanews.net</TD></TR><TR><T style="TEXT-ALIGN: right">1.6 TB</TD><TD>2005-02-01</TD><TD>Newsreader.com</TD></TR><TR><T style="TEXT-ALIGN: right">1.8 TB</TD><TD>2005-02-28</TD><TD>Octanews.net</TD></TR><TR><T style="TEXT-ALIGN: right">1.8 TB</TD><TD>2005-03-08</TD><TD>Newsreader.com</TD></TR><TR><T style="TEXT-ALIGN: right">2.00 TB</TD><TD>2005-03-11</TD><TD>Variou sources</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE -- billkat billkatz Wrote: > Sue, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > REPLY. Taks for the info Bill. Is Sci med a moderated newsgroup? *::Moderated and unmoderated newsgroups::* A minority of newsgroups are *moderated*. That means that messages submitted by readers are not distributed to USENET, but instead are emailed to the *moderators* of the newsgroup, for approval. Moderated newsgroups have rules called *charters*. Moderators are persons whose job is to ensure that messages that the readers see in newsgroups, conform to the charter of the newsgroup. Typically, moderators are appointed in the proposal for the newsgroup, and changes of moderators follow a succession plan. The job of the moderator is to receive submitted articles, review them, and inject approved articles so that they could properly propagate worldwide. Such articles must bear the Approved: header line. Unmoderated newsgroups form the majority of USENET newsgroups, and messages submitted by readers for unmoderated newsgroups, are immediately propagated for everyone to see. Creation of moderated newsgroups often becomes a hot subject of controversy, bringing up valid issues regarding censorship, vs. the desire of a subset of users to form an 'Intentional community' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intentional_community). ['edit' (http://tinyurl.com/bpcbv)] * * SignatureSue Nevermind. I can see that Sci med is unmoderated. Thank you for th link. -Su -- Su About ... Creation of moderated newsgroups often becomes a hot subject of controversy, bringing up valid issues regarding censorship, vs. the desire of a subset of users to form an Intentional community. REPLY Sci.med.dentistry: UNMODERATED! SignatureJoel344 Tim Dixon Wrote: > > Ahh shoot. I thought we were going to get > > some really good discussion going. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > you > do, and infact look at you as invaders of our little corner of the net. Hi Tom, If we posted through Usenet would we still be considered invaders? Is this an issue of how we are accessing your usenet group or is it the content of our posts that you do not like. I would like to take part in SMD Usenet on occasion as I think there is some good discussion there. I apologize for Justin's demeanor. He has worked hard to get Dcom off the ground and I think he is just very disappointed that this gateway is viewed as an invasion by you folks. I can see that you have not been attacking Justin or any of us... you only wish to continue to frequent usenet without a bunch of posts coming in out of order. That is perfectly understandable! Justin and Joel were trying to explain a way that can be done. I am sorry it turned into an argument. Rather than giving up already, perhaps you may consider some of the positivies this could bring for those of you on the usenet group... IF we can alleviate the positnf format issues. For example, one advantage of Dentalcom is that you can post pictures here. I am not sure if you can do that at SMD. IMHO, We really need you guys. (I know you do not need us). But perhaps we can add something that you currently do not have? Please think about it some more. Sincerely, -Sue SignatureSue > Tim Dixon Wrote: >> > [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] > Sincerely, > -Sue Sue I don't have anything against you, or DC, be that Washington or otherwise. However, it' apparent to most of us, that you all could use some lessons in usenettiquette. And no Binaries are not allowed in SMD, and we like it that way. > Is this an issue of how we are accessing your Usenet > group or is it the content of our posts that you do > not like. If you pay attention, you would notice that the regulars have virtually disappeared from SMD since DC came around. Partly due to weird stuff Joel brings along. partly due to the Hg and kilowatt folks who follow him around, partly due to DC filling SMD with posts that would require us to constantly mark about 500 already posts as "unread" so that we could strain out the message the DCfolks are responding to. We have no idea what is being discussed. I find it easier to just block any messages which come directly from DC. No offense against any of the folk there. I like Joel, I would probably like the rest of the DC folk IRL. I just don't have the interest to chase through all those steps to figure out what is being discussed. Signature/ Amatus / > >> Tim Dixon Wrote: [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > some lessons in usenettiquette. And no Binaries are not allowed in SMD, > and we like it that way. Amatus Cremona Wrote: > > Is this an issue of how we are accessing your Usene > > group or is it the content of our posts that you d [quoted text clipped - 94 lines] > > and we like it that way > >As long as we hit the quote button everything works for us, and you guy know what were talking about As far as posts constantly needing to be marked as read, I dont hav that problem with x-news. Or the news software my buddy used This place is public, if anyone wants to post here they should be abl to. If others dont like it dont read it. This is why dc has an ignor feature, but we dont use it. This place went downhill long before one person could cause it. ITs been going downhill for years now, I have seen the chart. SignatureAdministrator A+ N+ MCP2000 Microsoft Certified Professional and Red Hat Linux Certified Technician Justin Shafer Onsite Dental Systems Fort Worth, TX. 8179094222 ' ' (http://tinyurl.com/5jhcs) "Administrator" <Administrator@DentalCom.net> wrote ...................... > This place went downhill long before one person could cause it. > ITs been going downhill for years now, I have seen the chart. > > -- > Administrator Nope, actually it was getting better. It started a little shy of nine months ago. carabelli > "Administrator" <Administrator@DentalCom.net> wrote ...................... > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > carabelli Leave it to an IT guy to judge quality solely by numbers. T Tony Bad Wrote: > > "Administrator" <ADMINISTRATOR@DENTALCOM.NET>wrot > ..................... [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > T My favorite userbase is the one on DentalCom, we have the smallest o all the numbers, but at least were not declining Ok. Last post Grrr -- Administrato A+ N+ MCP2000 Microsoft Certified Professional and Red Hat Linu Certified Technicia Justin Shafe Onsite Dental System Fort Worth, TX 817909422 ' (http://tinyurl.com/5jhcs > Tony Bad Wrote: > > > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > -- > Administrator The ratio of quality posts / total posts was increasing. And, probably the total number of quality posts increased also. carabelli Amatus wrote (quotes) "If you pay attention, you would notice that the regulars hav virtuall disappeared from SMD since DC came around. REPLY. I cannot compare because I have no idea who the regulars wer or are on SMD "I find it easier to just block any messages which come directl from DC." REPLY. Certainly understandable. It was difficult for me to relaiz this because people have beem responding to my posts. Therefore I ha little idea as to the confusion you were/are dealing with "However, it' apparent to most of us, that you all could use som lessons in usenettiquette. REPLY. How to we get lessons? What are your rules "And no Binaries are not allowed in SMD, and we like it that way. REPLY. I am not sure what you mean. Do you mean that you do not allow anyone to post on other newsgroups, dentalbords etc. If tha is the case, how in the world can you control that -- Su > Amatus wrote (quotes): > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > not allow anyone to post on other newsgroups, dentalbords etc. If that > is the case, how in the world can you control that? Sue, Herein lies some of the problems. You mixed comments by me and comments by Amatus as though you were adressing the same person. This is what is driving us nuts. I am sure it wasn't intentional, but this is a problem nonetheless. I can't comment on your questions to Amatus, just like he can't/shouldn't comment to those you made to me. That was lesson one for usenettiquette. As for Binaries, they (images, video, other file types) are not allowed on this Usenet newsgroup. There are binary newsgroups where you can post binary content, but this is strictly text based. Its not us that restrict the content, but rather the system of UseNet. Why not just get a news reader like Forte Free Agent, or Outlook, or Netscape, or some other reader and follow news the way it was meant to be used. Just because you can do something doesn't make it right. “partly due to the Hg and kilowatt folks who follow him around, partly due to DC filling SMD with posts that would require us t constantly mark about 500 already posts as "unread" so that we coul strain out the message the DCfolks are responding to. We have no ide what is being discussed. I find it easier to just block any message which come directly from DC†Amatus, Are you telling us that DentalCom is posting messages that your reade recognizes as already read? I’m asking because groups like Google an readers like OE show them as new. If so, please explain. There may b something that can be done from this end to resolve the problem. Mos if not all newsgroup readers are picking up new messages without havin to mark 500 as unread. Tim, No binaries are posted via DC. Hyperlinks are what’s been posted an there’s nothing wrong with linking an image. Just tell you newsreader to not open hyperlinks if you don’t want to see th picture. Binaries, no! Please, give it a rest. To everyone else, I really can’t see why some are genuinely so upset about posts fro DC aside for the appearance of being interlopers onto what is *totally public newsgroup*. On average, fifteen to twenty posts ar coming out per day, which isn’t much at all for a newsgroup. I’ not even going to address “usenettiquetteâ€; that’s just a load o bullsh*t because the same people who are complaining about it don’ even bother to trim off their posts. In most cases, the solution is simple. Elect a moderator and post som rules. Nobody should be expected to guess what the guidelines of thi group are if they’re not made available. BTW, the newsfeeds coming t and from this website, Google, healthcareforums.org, dailydentistry.com med-help.info, sci.tech-archive.net, health-related-chat.com, etc, etc etc, etc are all FULLY NNTP COMPLIANT. Good grief -- billkat PS~ I am trying to figure out which technique is easier, slicker, more convenient, better for communicating .... Forte Fre Agent (usenet) or DentalCom.Net (http). Joel Hello! I intended to answer the following miscommunications, but by the time I got to the top I figured there was no use! Anyone who looks at DentalCom realizes that posts coming from "outside: have the poster martked as Guest, and the number of posts is n/a. Its easy to discriminate between posters from DentalCom and elsewhere. That said, it is not the DentalCom people causing the traffic. Oh except for me maybe. I also post and read through Forte Free Agent and Deja to see how it looks elsewhere. Joel Here are the people "clogging up sci.med.dentistry" August 1 throug August 28: ** means DentalCom.net posters, primarily. [321] **Joel344 <joeleichen@yahoo.com> 13.1% [213] W_B <no_one@nowhere.net> 8.7% [174] StovePipe <stove99pipeTRA@SHHyahoo.ca> 7.1% [120] Flap <fullosseousflap@gmail.com> 4.9% [110] Dr Steve <nospam@home.net> 4.5% [80] **Sue <s.c.madden@comcast.net> 3.3% [78] *(?)*letsconnect <letsconnect@myway.com> 3.2% [57] Mark & Steven Bornfeld <bornfeldmung@dentaltwins.com> 2.3% [56] **billkatz <billthekat@hotmail.com> 2.3% [48] **Administrator <Administrator@DentalCom.net> 2.0% [44] shadlewis <shadlewis@gmail.com> 1.8% [43] LadyLollipop <LadyLollipop@insightbb.com> 1.8% [40] Robert Morien <PhD_failure@nousefulinfo.com> 1.6% [37] Vaughn <vaughnsimonHATESSPAM@att.fake.net> 1.5% [32] Tim Dixon <timgdixon-no-spam@cox.net> 1.3% [32] Dr Steve <"Dr> 1.3% [31] Amatus Cremona <leavemealone@GDAE.com> 1.3% [30] The Webby <nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam@san.rr.co...> 1.2% [29] Alexander Vasserman DDS <purple543210@yahoo.ca> 1.2% [28] Dr. Steve <Drsteve@hammer.com> 1.1% [28] Steven Fawks <tuthjockey@earthlink.net> 1.1% [27] George Chatzipetros <chpetros@hotmail.com> 1.1% [26] Bill <dentaldoc@hotmail.com> 1.1% [23] Steven Bornfeld <dentaltwinnonsense@earthlink.net> 0.9% [23] NOYB <noyb@noyb.com> 0.9% Here are the topics "clogging up sci.med.dentistry," same time period! [220] Rod Kurthy's Deep Bleaching Technique 8.96% [99] Sensitive - Pain - Root Canal 4.03% [96] dentalcom.net - smd gateway 3.91% [89] JEWS AND PHOTOGRAPHY 3.62% [70] Patterson Dental: Defrauding Investors? 2.85% [70] Connecticut Voters Say Ban Dental Mercury* 2.85% [67] Hilary Duff's New Teeth 2.73% [66] DentalCom.Net test 2.69% [53] This Commerical Building Is Perfect For A Den... 2.16% [52] Stuff About Dinosaurs I Never Knew ..... 2.12% BillKatz wrote, To everyone else, I really can’t see why some are genuinely so upset about posts fro DC aside for the appearance of being interlopers onto what is *totally public newsgroup*. On average, fifteen to twenty posts ar coming out per day, which isn’t much at all for a newsgroup. I’ not even going to address “usenettiquetteâ€; that’s just a load o bullsh*t because the same people who are complaining about it don’ even bother to trim off their posts. In most cases, the solution is simple. Elect a moderator and post som rules. Nobody should be expected to guess what the guidelines of thi group are if they’re not made available. BTW, the newsfeeds coming t and from this website, Google, healthcareforums.org, dailydentistry.com med-help.info, sci.tech-archive.net, health-related-chat.com, etc, etc etc, etc are all FULLY NNTP COMPLIANT. Good grief! Amatus Cremona Guest Super Mario Mushroom Champion! Home Run Champion! Excite Bike Champion! Posts: n/a Re: dentalcom.net - smd gateway -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ahh shoot. I thought we were going to get > some really good discussion going. No one on SMD objects to the posters from DC, we just cannot follo postings the same way, so the conversations make no sense to us. If you want to converse, just log in to the Usenet like the rest of us do. Why is there a need to "combine" things when the system is fine as it is? -- / Amatus Cremona Guest Super Mario Mushroom Champion! Home Run Champion! Excite Bike Champion! Posts: n/a Re: dentalcom.net - smd gateway -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Is this an issue of how we are accessing your Usenet > group or is it the content of our posts that you do > not like. If you pay attention, you would notice that the regulars have virtually disappeared from SMD since DC came around. Partly due to weird stuff Joel brings along. partly due to the Hg and kilowatt folks who follow him around, partly due to DC filling SMD with posts that would require us to constantly mark about 500 already posts as "unread" so that we could strain out the message the DCfolks are responding to. We have no idea what is being discussed. I find it easier to just block any messages which come directly from DC. No offense against any of the folk there. I like Joel, I would probably like the rest of the DC folk IRL. I just don't have the interest to chase through all those steps to figure out what is being discussed. -- / Amatus You have an interesting view...I see it differently. It seems to me that one or two people have taken it upon themselves to hijack this group and shape it into something they want it to be. I don't like it, as it seems to have evolved into a mirror of other sites I have avoided over the years. You may see that as lame, but I see your recent changes here as invasive and don't quite grasp why you feel it is the burden of those here long before you to work to grasp the changes we neither wanted or asked for. Don't worry, in a few weeks all of the lame regulars who frequented this group will have lost interest and vanish and then you and Joel can do what ever you want in your new sandbox. I also can't help but note that you have a rather low opinion of those in the dental profession...I hope when working at your job with Onsite Dental Systems you are able to mask that little chip on your shoulder. T Tony-- It seems to me that in the past few weeks the posting volume has gone from manageable to insane. I know I'm reading less, not more of the postings here. Maybe things will settle down again, but right now I can't cope. Steve -- Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 Amatus wrote (quotes): "If you pay attention, you would notice that the regulars have virtually disappeared from SMD since DC came around." REPLY. I cannot compare because I have no idea who the regulars were or are on SMD. "I find it easier to just block any messages which come directly from DC." REPLY. Certainly understandable. It was difficult for me to relaize this because people have beem responding to my posts. Therefore I had little idea as to the confusion you were/are dealing with "However, it' apparent to most of us, that you all could use some lessons in usenettiquette." REPLY. How to we get lessons? What are your rules? "And no Binaries are not allowed in SMD, and we like it that way." REPLY. I am not sure what you mean. Do you mean that you do not allow anyone to post on other newsgroups, dentalbords etc. If that is the case, how in the world can you control that? SignatureJoel344 Tim Dixon Wrote: > Sue > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > b > used. Just because you can do something doesn't make it right. Tim You are right. It was not intentional. I made a mistake. Thanks fo point this out. I think our group of normally friendly D-commies are acting a bit hoit toity myself (sorry guys, but you know I do not hesitate to be honest) We descended upon your SMD usenet group in an effort to increase ou readership and allo ourlseves more discussion Since we are the invaders, I think we are the ones who need to be ver respectful of your concerns. I for one am going to try very hard to be judicious in my posts that g to SMD .. try to be very considerate of their space and limit my number of posts so as NOT to clog up their site This thread being the exception, because this is a thread here we ar at least discussing SMD's concerns. And seriously, I appreciate any lesson in usenet netiquette that yo are willing to share. Thanks Tim & Bill for explaining binary. I ha no idea what you were talking about We (Dcom) are a small group. We should be able to work within you expected boundaries without remaining PITAs (I hope! Su -- Su >Tim Dixon Wrote: >> > [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] >Sincerely, >-Sue You know,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I could have sworn that it has been mentioned that no regulars from SMD dislike the regul;ars from DC. The problem is that in Usenet, your posting show up with no easy way to follow what the heck is being said to whom about what. Even your brilliant administrator seems not to know how to add his line of text on a new line from the message he is responding to. Justin's last message got partially buried under the copied text line of the poster he was responding to. You folk are all fine. But,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I am not going to hang out at your dear little web-site. I have no need. I can work a list of NG's on OE or in Agent in moments, get all the new messages, figure out what is being said, reply if I want to, and get offline. I can do this in short little bursts f Usenet activity. Why not just log into newsgroups in a normal fashion and explore the differences? ``````````````````````` Stephen (What's a temporary?) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ What Steve says is correct. I have tried to follow threads on several different formats. May I suggest this? 1. Unquote the DentalCom quotes. It starts with [ q u o t e = S u e ] without the spaces. So I change it to Sue said, And when its not clear who said what, its best to delete al lthat and just say what you want to say ........ Any other suggestions .....? Joel >>Tim Dixon Wrote: >>> > [quoted text clipped - 81 lines] >Stephen (What's a temporary?) >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >What Steve says is correct. > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >Any other suggestions .....? How about this idea? Log on with a news group server and access the news group the way it is supposed to be accessed? ``````````````````````` Stephen (What's a temporary?) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >How about this idea? > >Log on with a news group server and access the news group the way it >is supposed to be accessed? To tell you the truth, that is how I post in general. I also post through the web just to see how it looks over there. Joel I agree SignatureRoy rem NADA to reply | How about this idea? | [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] | Stephen (What's a temporary?) | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Me too. Vaughn, would you say that the amateur bands were meant to be accessed through continuous wave (C.W.)? Of course not! Just send Morse Code like the am bands (jam bands) were meant to be accessed. Joel Gotta go......... my telegraph key is clickin' ....... Joel >I agree Except that DC is not improvement over a newsreader. If anything, it is step backwards. Plus, it is moderated and restricted. >Me too. > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >>I agree ``````````````````````` Stephen (What's a temporary?) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The alternative is to post through a newsreader. DentalCom does not replace sci.med.dentistry, it enhances sci.med.dentistry. I do not think it is moderated however. Joel >Except that DC is not improvement over a newsreader. If anything, it >is step backwards. Plus, it is moderated and restricted. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >Stephen (What's a temporary?) >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joel's Post: The alternative is to post through a newsreader. DentalCom does not replace sci.med.dentistry, it enhances sci.med.dentistry. I do not think it is moderated however. Joel On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 14:55:15 GMT, Dr. Steve <Drst...@hammer.com> wrote: >Except that DC is not improvement over a newsreader. If anything, it >is step backwards. Plus, it is moderated and restricted. >On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 03:38:25 -0400, Joel M. Eichen ><joeleic...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>Me too. >>Vaughn, would you say that the amateur bands were >>meant to be accessed through continuous wave (C.W.)? Of course not! >>Just send Morse Code like the am bands (jam bands) were >>meant to be accessed. >>Joel >>Gotta go......... my telegraph key is clickin' ....... >>Joel >>On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 01:34:01 -0400, "Roy Brown" >><roybr...@sympatico.caNADA> wrote: >>>I agree >``````````````````````` >Stephen (What's a temporary?) Flap's Reply: Joel, DentalCom.net is restricted and certainly moderated. Justin Shafer, the Administrator can modify and/or delete whatever he wishes. When Justin, (the Administrator), and I had a disagreement after I helped set up the site, he banned me and deleted all of my previous posts. Just the facts..... Flap http://flapsblog.com Flap Wrote: > Joel's Post: > [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > http://flapsblog.com LOL, Flap lets hear all the facts. Did I not warn you if you eve posted on DC again under flap, that I would remove all your posts, onl because the first time I warned you, you kept on posting???? You go warned, and when you tried to take another inch, I did exactly what told you I would do.... Put your username on banned status, and remov all your threads. You would think you would just post under a differen name but no you wanted to test my limits. Flap and I were partners... I did 90% of the work.. The bigges contribution flap did, was name the site, and spam people. He name most of the older forums, but the setup was almost exactly lik dentaltowns, because the list he went off of to name forums, was fro dentaltown. I did everything else, and we started the site because d removed all the posts with the name israel in it. I have paid fo everthing, and I setup the bulletin board, the hosting, countles hacks, etc, etc, etc. It took about 2-3 weeks, and that was just th beginning. I still post on dental town, and I told him from the begining that if make a forum based site, that I dont want to piss of anyone fro dentaltown, in such a way that I get banned. At the time I had aroun 1,000 posts, and I didnt want to loose the ability to keep posting Which I still have. He lost his ability because he was banned, an after that he didnt care what happened to me. He kept stealing images from a post on dentaltown, from a guy who is a advocate for cerec. I think he sells it. He kept using this mans images and then drawing on them, and talked about how horrible it was. He sai he saw stuff like this all the time. This dentist asked me to remove the images, and I knew that I didn really have the image on my site legally, and since everything is in m name I might be liable. This man is friends with the owner of DT, an besides this he seems like a nice guy to me, nicer then you greg. Flap always had his way when it came to any comprimise. And this ma was getting pretty pissed off. I called a local dentist for advice o what to do. Dr. H told me to tell flap to piss off, and to get his ow images since he claims to do this all the time. That was good enough for me, so when I called flap to politely persuad him to remove the images and get his own, he told me that I have tw options |
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