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periostat?
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Ender's playing - 13 Aug 2005 01:12 GMT Hi,
whats the rationale for the use of periostat?
where can i find info on this?
if you have used this, can you give me a feedback please
 Signature Jean-Paul Berthier dmd
Joel344 - 13 Aug 2005 01:36 GMT In a sentence, it reduces increased levels of collagenase.
Collagenase is an enzyme that breaks down or digests collagen. Collagen is the stuff of connective tissue.
Joe
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Joel344 - 13 Aug 2005 01:40 GMT Slightly more detailed reply:
Adv Dent Res. 1998 Nov;12(2):32-9. Related Articles, Links
Long-term sub-antimicrobial doxycycline (Periostat) as adjunctiv management in adult periodontitis: effects on subgingival bacteria population dynamics.
Thomas JG, Metheny RJ, Karakiozis JM, Wetzel JM, Crout RJ.
Department of Pathology, West Virginia University, Morgantow 26506-9203, USA.
Previous trials had indicated that various schedules o sub-antimicrobial doxycycline significantly reduced gingival crevicula fluid (GCF) collagenase activity in adult patients with periodontiti with no evidence of emergent tetracycline-resistant (Tcr) marker ora flora. The purpose of this nine-month study was to expand thes observations, emphasizing newer microbial diagnostic methods Subgingival paper point samples were obtained at baseline (BL), 3, 6 and 9 months. Four subject treatment groups in a double-blind desig were evaluated by mechanical scaling and root planing (SRP) and/or 2 mg doxycycline BID (Periostat). Thirty-eight patients entered the stud at baseline (BL). Dark-field microscopy on 260 samples showed tha morphotype distribution was independent of treatment schedule. Cultur analysis of the 3 most prevalent isolates recovered showed tha Streptococcus and Prevotella species accounted for approximately 85% o the 724 cultures. There did not appear to be any overgrowth o replacement by opportunistic oral flora. Of 658 susceptibility pattern evaluated by Etest, the MIC50/90 and mode MIC showed stable patterns independent of treatment group. Our findings were different from thos of previously published reports, but may be partly explained by th lack of universally standardized methods in oral microbiology an interpretive criteria for susceptibility testing.
Publication Types: Clinical Trial Randomized Controlled Tria
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shad j lewis - 13 Aug 2005 01:50 GMT Over a certain dose, it's an antibiotic. Under that dose, it acts as an enzyme supressant ONLY. I've tried in on some patients, I've noticed a difference in tissue health and tooth mobility, and they all have claimed that, "everything tightened up."
Dr Steve - 13 Aug 2005 13:50 GMT And,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, six months later?
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This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ......................
> Over a certain dose, it's an antibiotic. Under that dose, it acts as > an enzyme supressant ONLY. I've tried in on some patients, I've > noticed a difference in tissue health and tooth mobility, and they all > have claimed that, "everything tightened up." shad j lewis - 13 Aug 2005 14:11 GMT Back to the same and refer to a periodontist, then. It's marketed as a "get-me-by" product for people who don't want to get the proper treatment, and, in the end, they or their insurance company (medical if they cover it) will most likely spend much more on the pills than the periodontal treatment.
Bill - 13 Aug 2005 16:55 GMT "Back to the same and refer to a periodontist, then. It's marketed as a "get-me-by" product for people who don't want to get the proper treatment, and, in the end, they or their insurance company (medical if
they cover it) will most likely spend much more on the pills than the periodontal treatment."
That's because they charge much more for the smaller Periostat pills than the larger, antibiotic-style doxycycline pills.
- dentaldoc
shad j lewis - 13 Aug 2005 18:47 GMT I asked the rep the one day why the larger dose can't be prescribed and then the pill broken in half. I got some dumb answer, as usual.
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 13 Aug 2005 18:55 GMT > I asked the rep the one day why the larger dose can't be prescribed and > then the pill broken in half. I got some dumb answer, as usual. I've wondered about the marketing of Zyban vs. Wellbutrin (both bupropion). I believe Zyban (for smoking cessation) is given in lower doses than Welbutrin (when used as an antidepressant). I'd bet a lot of pill splitting goes on.
Steve
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StovePipe - 14 Aug 2005 02:48 GMT > I asked the rep the one day why the larger dose can't be prescribed and > then the pill broken in half. I got some dumb answer, as usual. IIRC, doxy is usually given in capsule form. no? Hard to fraction that dose unless you mix it, say, with peanut butter or mayonnaise.
SP
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Joel344 - 14 Aug 2005 11:53 GMT Last time I checked which was several years back Collagenex was selling about $60 million of Periostat each year. Not bad for a tin company!
PS~ A simple study of the data reveals that this is not an effectiv therapy.
Joe
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StovePipe - 14 Aug 2005 17:28 GMT > Last time I checked which was several years back Collagenex was > selling about $60 million of Periostat each year. Not bad for a tinycompany! > > PS~ A simple study of the data reveals that this is not an effectivetherapy. agreed SP
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W_B - 15 Aug 2005 16:42 GMT >Over a certain dose, it's an antibiotic. Under that dose, it acts as >an enzyme supressant ONLY. I've tried in on some patients, I've >noticed a difference in tissue health and tooth mobility, and they all >have claimed that, "everything tightened up." Everything ? --
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