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Hardening Mechanism of Dental Amalgam

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Monty Hall - 07 Aug 2005 06:40 GMT
Anybody know the reason why dental amalgams harden from paste?  Is it
similar to the mercury evaporation process for gold purification?  Its only
a wild guess but is something similar happening - sufficient mercury
evaporation via body heat causing the semi-solid solution to solidify?  That
is wrt to a phase diagram, % Hg composition is dropped (not neccesarily to
0%) thereby putting the metal solution into a total solid phase?

No, I'm not interested in the environmental/health impact of dental
amalgams - just the chemistry/thermo of hardening.
salmonegg@sbcglobal.net - 07 Aug 2005 06:50 GMT
On 8/6/05 10:40 PM, in article c9hJe.335$546.323@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net,

> Anybody know the reason why dental amalgams harden from paste?  Is it
> similar to the mercury evaporation process for gold purification?  Its only
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> No, I'm not interested in the environmental/health impact of dental
> amalgams - just the chemistry/thermo of hardening.

It is not a vaporization process. It is probably the metal filings getting
dissolved in the mercury turning into a solid solution.

This is one of those topics that should be well understood. You did
google--didn't you?

Bill
Ron Jones - 08 Aug 2005 20:12 GMT
> Anybody know the reason why dental amalgams harden from paste?  Is it
> similar to the mercury evaporation process for gold purification? Its only
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> No, I'm not interested in the environmental/health impact of dental
> amalgams - just the chemistry/thermo of hardening.

IIRC it's some sort of phase change of the alloy, especially brought on by
pressure - as the dentist pushes it in.

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NOYB - 08 Aug 2005 21:30 GMT
>> Anybody know the reason why dental amalgams harden from paste?  Is it
>> similar to the mercury evaporation process for gold purification? Its
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> IIRC it's some sort of phase change of the alloy, especially brought on by
> pressure - as the dentist pushes it in.

http://www.mse.cornell.edu/courses/engri119/Class_Notes/amalgam_technical.html
clintonz@prodigy.net - 08 Aug 2005 23:14 GMT
> > IIRC it's some sort of phase change of the alloy, especially brought on by
> > pressure - as the dentist pushes it in.
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>
> http://www.mse.cornell.edu/courses/engri119/Class_Notes/amalgam_technical.html

Looks like a pretty good link. too bad the quality of amalgam
is under so much control of the individual dentists.

the article says that after 3 minutes amalgam should be
discarded. What would happen if it wasn't discarded? I assume
it is still usable since the article says "should be" discarded.
Joel344 - 09 Aug 2005 04:09 GMT
Clinton,

There have been huge changes in the formulation of amalgam over the
years. Today it sets so very fast! Years ago it contained loads of
liquid mercury and the dentist condensed (or expressed out) the excess
mercury. There were squeeze cloths that were used to express excess
mercury.

Today, no.

Joel

clintonz@prodigy.net Wrote:
> > > IIRC it's some sort of phase change of the alloy, especially
> brought on by
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> discarded. What would happen if it wasn't discarded? I assume
> it is still usable since the article says "should be" discarded.

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clintonz@prodigy.net - 09 Aug 2005 05:55 GMT
> Clinton,
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Joel

It says however, after the amalgam is mixed. So you are
saying that if an amalgam made from a capsule is left
setting for 3 minutes that is no problem?
Steven Bornfeld - 09 Aug 2005 13:50 GMT
>>Clinton,
>>
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> saying that if an amalgam made from a capsule is left
> setting for 3 minutes that is no problem?

    After 3 minutes the mix is unusable.  You throw it out--no problem.

Steve

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NOYB - 09 Aug 2005 13:24 GMT
>> > IIRC it's some sort of phase change of the alloy, especially brought on
>> > by
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> Looks like a pretty good link. too bad the quality of amalgam
> is under so much control of the individual dentists.

Not really.  In the "old days" that was true:
" In the bad old days triturition (=mixing) was by mortar and pestle; to
make working the mix easier, excess mercury was added, then squeezed out of
the mix using linen cloths.  Then we had mechanical triturators but accurate
measurement of small quantities of mercury was not easy.  Now all amalgam is
sold in pre-packaged ampules containing alloy powder and mercury, kept apart
with a plastic seal.  The seal is broken and the mixing is done without
opening the ampule. "

> the article says that after 3 minutes amalgam should be
> discarded. What would happen if it wasn't discarded?

It would lose the toothpaste-like consistency and you wouldn't be able to
condense into the tooth.  It just crumbles while condensing, and you have to
start over.

>I assume
> it is still usable since the article says "should be" discarded.

It's not usable.  It'd be like trying to take partially set concrete and
spreading it out evenly for a side walk.  It just wouldn't work.
 
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