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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / August 2005How to produce O3?
Howdy. Does anyone have any idea how hard or easily Ozone can be produced safely in the clinic?. After I heard that Ray Berlotti is developing one (and seeing the greedy look on his face as he said it) I thought it would be nice to make a simple O3-based sterilizer for the Laser handpieces and other instruments. The big plus would be that O3 is effective against prions. Thanks SP  SignatureFinally: take out the TRASHH > Howdy. Does anyone have any idea how hard or easily Ozone can be > produced safely in the clinic?. After I heard that Ray Berlotti is [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Thanks > SP But where are you going to vent that crap? Steve SignatureMark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 I made one. there is no worry about venting the "crap" since the venting is all crap. The gas actually disinfects the air. Ray probably got the idea from me after i told him i will build the unit. > I made one. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Ray probably got the idea from me after i told him i will build the > unit. You are aware that ozone is toxic, aren't you? http://www.arb.ca.gov/research/abstracts/a0-078-32.htm Steve SignatureCut the nonsense to reply so is fluoride. >> I made one. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > You are aware that ozone is toxic, aren't you? I vent all of mine (when I have extra) to the ozone hole. carabelli exactly we need to add some to our depleting ozone layer so we eliminate the green house effect and prevent us from dying from skin cancer. people also drink ozonated water as part of water purification. >>> I made one. >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >carabelli I like to mix mine with chlorodifluoromethane (R22) -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com works great for disolving gutta percha and it even has fluoride. > > I made one. > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > You are aware that ozone is toxic, aren't you? But of course... Highly reactive OXIDIZER. It is so reactive that the existing O3 makers do it from scratch, rather than storing it in a bottle or can. > http://www.arb.ca.gov/research/abstracts/a0-078-32.htm > > Steve O3 is toxic, yes. ( I myself have now got three arms and two.... things down there...)... Ray bought the patent from the supposed inventor (some Kanadian north of Toronto) and then sent it along to what is now a division of Kavo in Kaliforn-i-a to make it for the rest of the world except yourn.... At least, that's what he said when he gave the lecture last October in Toronto. SP SignatureFinally: take out the TRASHH O3 is an oxidizer hardly as strong as chromic acid the reason you have to make it is not because of it's reactivity but rather it's stability as a molecule. > O3 is an oxidizer hardly as strong as chromic acid the reason you have > to make it is not because of it's reactivity but rather it's stability > as a molecule. 'K... Care to share how you managed to make one that is useful in the mouth? Thanks SP SignatureFinally: take out the TRASHH I'm still evaluating how useful it really is. For apthous ulcers it removes the pain instantly and the leasion heals in 2 days. For herpies lesions I am waiting to see the results. unfortunetly the volunteer already went through the pain stage so we will have to wait to see what the healing time would be. As far as making the machine there are various options. either an O2 tank supplying the unit or air pump. The O2 tank is not very practical although it will give you the maximum output ( did not used the O2 tank , too much trouble and i did not need such potent unit.). You have to use special formulas to figure out which pump depending on it's flowrate and what unit will give you the required ppm of O3. Then you have to make sure the hoses you use are silicon or vinyl otherwise they will deteriorate. Some wiring and drilling is needed to connect the air pump to the unit and place it inside. The gas will clear out you sinuses if you are not careful. > You have to use special formulas to figure out which pump depending on > it's flowrate and what unit will give you the required ppm of O3. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > and place it inside. > The gas will clear out you sinuses if you are not careful. 'K... Thanks for the info SP SignatureFinally: take out the TRASHH Ozone is generated in many ways. Your Xerox machine produces ozon because of electrostatic discharge, so do electro-plating machines Jacob's ladders, negative ion generators, lightning and so on Building a negative ion producing generator isn't hard. Use transformer to get about 350 VAC (490 V peak). Use a ladder of diode and capacitors to build a voltage multiplier. 25 diodes and 2 capacitors will get you about -12KV. Use 1N4005 diodes and 600V fil caps about .047 uF. The diodes are all in series in a sawtooth pattern cathodes toward the transformer, and the capacitors fill in the gap between the "teeth" on both sides. The first diode connects to one le of the transformer secondary, the first capacitor to the other BTW, notify the fire department before you fire it up (they'l appreciate you for that). :^ -bil -- billkat > Ozone is generated in many ways. Your Xerox machine produces ozone because >of electrostatic discharge, so do electro-plating machines,Jacob's >ladders, negative ion generators, lightning and so on.Building a >negative ion producing generator isn't hard. Use atransformer to get >about 350 VAC (490 V peak). .... Now then, Mr Brackwurst. Open wide and hold your breath... !!!!!!!!!!!FRAAAAAZZZZZZ!!!!!!!! Oh, look, Marsha... Mr. B's periodontitis is all gone... in fact so has all of his gum tissue... and his tongue.... and his eyes... >Use a ladder of diodesand capacitors to >build a voltage multiplier. 25 diodes and 25capacitors will get you [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >department before you fire it up (they'llappreciate you for that). :^)-bill-- So would the local funny farm appreciate a notice, after the fire dep't gets through with me... Thanks for the background. I still think one could make an safe O3 generator from a water purifier. I'll look in to it. If you notice the Earth stopping in its orbit for a few minutes, It'll be me. Thanks SP SignatureFinally: take out the TRASHH StovePipe Wrote: > ..... Now then, Mr Brackwurst. Open wide and hold your breath... > > !!!!!!!!!!!FRAAAAAZZZZZZ!!!!!!!! :) All kidding aside (and I meant no disrespect), the idea of using O generated water in something like a Water Pik for in hom (preventative) hygiene sounds interesting. At least it'll get som people to use the thing.. -- billkat > All kidding aside (and I meant no disrespect), the idea of using >O3generated water in something like a Water Pik for in >home(preventative) hygiene sounds interesting. At least it'll get >somepeople to use the thing...-- > billkatz My feelings exactly. the Biolase was supposed to work on these lesions and gradually reduce inflammation in pockets. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work in my own hands, and I have never seen any scholarly articles on it. If it was to be made into a WaterPik type of gizmo, it would have to be quite weak in concentration. Dunno. I'm looking into it. So, the Earth's orbit is in danger... :-/ SP SignatureFinally: take out the TRASHH Hmmmm... One of these - http://tinyurl.com/9v3kj , a Water Pik and som duct tape and I may have something... ..mental note to self... call 911 *before* I plug it in... -- billkat > Hmmmm... One of these - http://tinyurl.com/9v3kj , a Water Pik and some > duct tape and I may have something... > > ..mental note to self... call 911 *before* I plug it in.... ,,, Concentration would be too low for an explosion... But you could stumble into a backwards running Space-time continuum... You could end up finishing before you start... Then how would you get paid? Ya gotta consider these things... SP SignatureFinally: take out the TRASHH SP you do not have to make one from scratch they sell them. CurOzone did not make one from scratch either they took an existing one. Just open the unit up and see which company make the unit for curozone. > SP you do not have to make one from scratch they sell them. > CurOzone did not make one from scratch either they took an existing > one. Just open the unit up and see which company make the unit for > curozone. Excellent idea. Thanks, Alex SP SignatureFinally: take out the TRASHH Alexander Vasserman DDS Wrote: > SP you do not have to make one from scratch they sell them. > CurOzone did not make one from scratch either they took an existing > one. Just open the unit up and see which company make the unit for > curozone. Dr. Vasserman, Is that a peroxone (h2o3) generator? In other words, do you use distilled water or h2o2 in the process? Signaturebillkatz > Alexander Vasserman DDS Wrote: > > SP you do not have to make one from scratch they sell them. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Is that a peroxone (h2o3) generator? In other words, do you use > distilled water or h2o2 in the process? no the unit uses oxygen from the air, it has an option to allow pure oxygen as an input. > -- > billkatz > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > billkatz's Profile: http://dentalcom.net/forum/member.php?userid=519 > View this thread: http://dentalcom.net/forum/showthread.php?t=2593 > > I made one. Jesuz..... did you use an aquarium disinfector? SP > > there is no worry about venting the "crap" since the venting is all > > crap. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Steve SignatureFinally: take out the TRASHH and it eats latex gloves just like the healozone machine. >> Howdy. Does anyone have any idea how hard or easily Ozone can be >> produced safely in the clinic?. After I heard that Ray Berlotti is [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Steve LA -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > > Howdy. Does anyone have any idea how hard or easily Ozone can be > > produced safely in the clinic?. After I heard that Ray Berlotti is [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Steve If the scuba divers can use O2 re-breathers (that suck out the O2 from the CO2 that you breathe out, and recycle it back to your mouthpiece, I rather think the same filtering can be applied to O3). After all, <RB> has gotten his company to make the Heel, Boy! Ozone (CureOzone). So how hard can it be to scrub a highly reactive gas out of the system? Failing that, perhaps have a succion going to the outside. Aggravating... the next post is greyed out in my MacSoup News Reader... goooood damn the pusher-man... and Sympatico... SP SignatureFinally: take out the TRASHH Might be fun to ask this on the HealOzone Group: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/healozone/ Also in this abstract these people were exposed for 1h. www.the-o-zone.cc/docs/fsd02.doc areas exposed for max 40 sec. Ozone is commonly used to kill antigens in the air causing allergy. >Howdy. Does anyone have any idea how hard or easily Ozone can be >produced safely in the clinic?. After I heard that Ray Berlotti is >developing one (and seeing the greedy look on his face as he said it) I Hmmm.... >thought it would be nice to make a simple O3-based sterilizer for the >Laser handpieces and other instruments. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Thanks >SP How now, Mad Cow ? -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com |
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