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Kira Dirlik - 06 Aug 2005 00:17 GMT
Hello,
   I'm new here & and sure this has been asked, but 22,121 messages
came up when I subscribed !!  Thought I'd just start fresh with a new
post.

General History:    I'm 66 and have had disasterous teeth my whole
life (miracle they are still more or less attached).  My dentist
retired 5 years ago and I have been "shopping" with some very bad luck
with the two since him (painful dentistry, ill-fitting lower back
bridge that keeps breaking upper teeth, very ugly "rodent teeth"
bridge on lower front 5 (he carved out 6 in that chunk of plastic
where there were only 5 originally).   I have given up and gone to our
local dental school, not the student clinic, but the faculty clinic,
the dentists who treat dentists.  
   I have many crowns, root canals, and bridges.. not a single
pristine original tooth.  New dentist says all the top must come out
because of apparent infection at root bases & and a 4 tooth partial
will go into the bottom back (the side that doesn't already have one).
I already have 2 partials in bottom of 4 and 6 teeth, respectively.
   I also have a lump on the roof of my mouth (forget the name, but
it is not uncommon) that will have to be cut down for room for the
upper plate.

   I've asked a lot of questions and the general answer from the
dentist is "some people do, and some don't".  So just to hear some
experiences from the horse's mouth (no pun intended) I ask you denture
wearers:
-   Did they put in your upper plate immediately after pulling and was
there a lot of pain for a long time?

-  Could you talk okay?   Eat okay?

-  Do you wear them most the time, or go toothless for comfort?

-  What is the best way to care for them to avoid smelly teeth.  (My
step dad reeked of dentures.)

-   Does your tongue get claustrophobia?  My tongue seems to currently
fill my whole mouth... a big foreign contraption covering my gums and
roof of my mouth sounds like a ghastly (& irrevocable) prospect.

-  Can you eat most everything?  i.e. steak and almonds?  

-   When you eat, does food get crammed between that thing and the
roof of your mouth?

-   An attempt to save these teeth would have cost $13,000 plus!   And
the planned work is costing $8,000.   This is SOOOO off the wall.  In
the last 10 years dental cost seems to have soared out the wazoo.  Is
this par for the course in your area?

-  Any advice in general you can give?

Thanks very much.   Aren't newsgroups great!?
Kira
Tatty - 06 Aug 2005 00:34 GMT
Hi Kira, nice to hear from you. What I recommend you is that you might
write to customerservice@mezadentalcare.com or call to (506) - 305 -
MEZA and I'm sure they will give you a very nice service.
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Joel344 - 11 Aug 2005 23:48 GMT
How so

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letsconnect - 06 Aug 2005 01:01 GMT
Doubt you'll find loads of denture wearers around here - check out
http://groups.msn.com/DenturesANewSmile/general.msnw
Roy Brown - 06 Aug 2005 05:02 GMT
Thanks for the link.

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Steven Bornfeld - 06 Aug 2005 03:14 GMT
> Hello,
>     I'm new here & and sure this has been asked, but 22,121 messages
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> Thanks very much.   Aren't newsgroups great!?
> Kira

    If you check at a denture support group (they are around) you'll find
that patients' expectations and experiences are all over the map.
    As a general rule, folks do much better with full upper than they do
with full lower dentures.  But everyone's experience is different.
    The lump on the roof of your mouth is doubtless a torus palatinus.
It's very normal bone, but if it is very large it can get in the way of
placing a well-fitting denture and should be removed.

Steve

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Steven Fawks - 06 Aug 2005 14:12 GMT
I don't wear dentures, but I've made hundreds over the last 26 years.
I'll give you honest answers for the 'average' case.

> -   Did they put in your upper plate immediately after pulling and was
> there a lot of pain for a long time?

Most patients prefer (and most dentists prefer) to have a plate ready
to go in after the last extractions.  I use a 'temporary' denture for
the first 6 months and then take new impressions to make the 'real'
denture.

Most patients describe 'soreness' the next day, but not a lot of actual
pain (most are still taking some analgesics at this point, of course).

One to three appts. to work on sore spots and they are in pretty good shape.

> -  Could you talk okay?   Eat okay?

Enunciating words is remarkably good considering.  I recommend reading
out loud to practice.

> -  Do you wear them most the time, or go toothless for comfort?

The immediate denture is worn 24/7 for the first couple of weeks.  It
actually acts as a bandage over the extraction sites.

> -  What is the best way to care for them to avoid smelly teeth.  (My
> step dad reeked of dentures.)

Mouthwash, brush your gums, brush your denture.

> -   Does your tongue get claustrophobia?  My tongue seems to currently
> fill my whole mouth... a big foreign contraption covering my gums and
> roof of my mouth sounds like a ghastly (& irrevocable) prospect.

If you already have a maxillary torus occupying space, and can live with
that, you should be able to adjust to the plate (after removal of the
torus).

> -  Can you eat most everything?  i.e. steak and almonds?  

10% of the patients can eat anything and everything.  10% can't function
well at all.  80% are somewhere in the middle.

People seem to get pretty good handling upper dentures.  I've never seen
anyone starve.

> -   When you eat, does food get crammed between that thing and the
> roof of your mouth?

Not usually.  Some plates and some patients use adhesive of one kind or
another to seal the edges and some don't.

Learning to eat is a challenge though.  White bread just balls up and
sticks to the plate.  Biting pressure is much less.  You do more
'chewing' with your knife and fork than you used to.

> -   An attempt to save these teeth would have cost $13,000 plus!   And
> the planned work is costing $8,000.   This is SOOOO off the wall.  In
> the last 10 years dental cost seems to have soared out the wazoo.  Is
> this par for the course in your area?

10 extractions and an upper immediate would cost around $3K  Torus
removal would be extra at the oral surgeons office.  I have no idea
what charges are involved with the lower teeth.

A few root canals, build ups, and 12-14 units of crown & bridge could
hit $13 K easy.

> -  Any advice in general you can give?

Not much left.  Just don't expect too much too fast.

Best wishes,
Fawks

> Thanks very much.   Aren't newsgroups great!?
> Kira
Kira Dirlik - 09 Aug 2005 18:53 GMT
Thanks for the advice and location of a denture group.  I feel better
about it, now with some really specific comments.  Thanks to
"Letsconnect" and the two Stevens.  (I recognized the Spam from Tatty
as spam).
Cheers,
Kira
 
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