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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / July 2005Was the discussion effective?
It's interesting that more than 20 posts went into a thread and the person's main question, the subject line, was not addressed. It was asked: > Any recommendations on whether to see an MD, a DDS, or MD,DDS for TMJ > problems and orthognathic surgery? Does it matter? > Thanks! Why did the poster ask the above questions? Those are good questions and given the poster asked them tells me something. Webby >It's interesting that more than 20 posts went into a thread and the >person's main question, the subject line, was not addressed. It was [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Webby Unless we suspect fracture, tumor, genetic abnormality, etc, the OP should find a DDS/DMD who understands the NTI device. Not one who has it made of a lab. Avoid the "self-proclaimed" TMJ specialist. .. Stephen Troy, Michigan, USA I am writing on a Tablet-PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my handwriting. > >It's interesting that more than 20 posts went into a thread and the > >person's main question, the subject line, was not addressed. It was [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > I am writing on a Tablet-PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my handwriting. Hi Dr. Steve. Have a look at this link's info, please. http://surgery.org/press/news-release.php?iid=363 It points us in the direction that the poster may have been considering. This is just meant to touch upon the subject that brings dentistry and medicine into an arena of "conflict" over the questions of "whose patients are they anyway???" Food for thought, so to speak. Webby >Food for thought > >Webby I ain't that hungry. -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE >It's interesting that more than 20 posts went into a thread and the >person's main question, the subject line, was not addressed. It was [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Webby Horse hockey ! Answered in my first post. -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE > >It's interesting that more than 20 posts went into a thread and the > >person's main question, the subject line, was not addressed. It was [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > Take out the G'RBAGE W_B, you wrote in reply: > On 15 Jul 2005 11:27:00 -0700, "sam1358" <jenmackey@earthlink.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > -- > W_B I guess you did, but maybe you and I perceived the questions asked by the poster in different ways. It's possible, you know. Webby >> >It's interesting that more than 20 posts went into a thread and the >> >person's main question, the subject line, was not addressed. It was [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > >Webby <clip> >>Start with a consultation with a board certified orthodontist. >> You and the orthodontist will consult with an Oral MaxilloFacial >> Surgeon. </clip> Still guessing eh ? Words mean something. You should know that at your age. Life is not perfect for anyone. Do you think that you are the *only* one who has ever suffered ? Gimme a f*n' break. >I guess you did, but maybe you and I perceived the questions asked by >the poster in different ways. It's possible, you know. Still guessing eh ? Actually it is not possible. "Words mean something." Situational truth ? Your perception is blinded by your pre-concieved notions. As an aside: Have recieved several serious injuries in my life, I don't bitch about them, I just live with it. You would never know it if you met me IRL. -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE >>I guess you did, but maybe you and I perceived the questions asked by >>the poster in different ways. It's possible, you know. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >I don't bitch about them, I just live with it. >You would never know it if you met me IRL. George, you would never know it if you meet SB IRL either. .. Stephen Troy, Michigan, USA I am writing on a Tablet-PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my handwriting. >George, you would never know it if you meet SB IRL either. >.. >Stephen >Troy I suspected as much. -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE [clipped a bunch] > <clip> > >>Start with a consultation with a board certified orthodontist. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Life is not perfect for anyone. > Do you think that you are the *only* one who has ever suffered ? You know, this isn't about me suffering. Maybe it's about you suffering... I'm really very sorry if I have offended you in some way. I know that words mean something. Words in our forum is all we have unless we have met each other in person. When that's the case we have more to work with as we converse. Of course life is not perfect. Life is filled with "life". Yes, I know this at my age. > Gimme a f*n' break. Okay. I am. > >I guess you did, but maybe you and I perceived the questions asked by > >the poster in different ways. It's possible, you know. > > Still guessing eh ? No, I'm not guessing for the sake of guessing. What else am I supposed to do? I'm asking you to communicate with me but there's some sort of a barrier between us. I don't know why that is. Maybe you know something I don't. > Actually it is not possible. You don't think it's possible for two people to interpret something in two different ways regardless of the words used? How's that? > "Words mean something." > Situational truth ? > > Your perception is blinded by your pre-concieved notions. Well, I'm not that stubborn, W_B. If I have pre-conceived notions, as everyone does, that doesn't mean my mind is closed to learning or changing my notions given good reason. > As an aside: > Have recieved several serious injuries in my life, > I don't bitch about them, I just live with it. > You would never know it if you met me IRL. I'm sorry that you've had serious injuries. I truly am. I don't see you as a person who would complain about your life as it is. I hope we can get back on track. > -- > W_B > > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > Take out the G'RBAGE Webby > I'm asking you to communicate with me but there's some sort of a >barrier between us. I don't know why that is. Maybe you know something [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >You don't think it's possible for two people to interpret something in >two different ways regardless of the words used? How's that? No, I don't. You cannot disregard the words used. Words mean something. An astute writer can easily convey the intended meaning. >> Your perception is blinded by your pre-concieved notions. > >Well, I'm not that stubborn, W_B. If I have pre-conceived notions, as >everyone does, that doesn't mean my mind is closed to learning or >changing my notions given good reason. Fair enough. >> As an aside: >> Have recieved several serious injuries in my life, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >you as a person who would complain about your life as it is. I hope we >can get back on track. Never thought that we slipped the track. I just don't agree with you sometimes. -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE >> >It's interesting that more than 20 posts went into a thread and the >> >person's main question, the subject line, was not addressed. It was [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > >Webby what I noticed in the OP is that she described having very extensive surgery to correct a problem that would not be fixed by the surgery. With the potential for many side-effects. Ortho-gothic surgery to reposition the jaws will Not fix migraines and TMJ clicking .. Stephen Troy, Michigan, USA I am writing on a Tablet-PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my handwriting. > >> >It's interesting that more than 20 posts went into a thread and the > >> >person's main question, the subject line, was not addressed. It was [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > I am writing on a Tablet-PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my handwriting. Exactly what I thought... and I *know* that it isn't that difficult to convince a person that surgery will fix those two problems. I was so foolish to have believed that it would *prevent* the joint problems that I didn't even have (yet). Ortho-gothic is a perfect description. Webby I hope your relataive does well. The intensity of this discussion should ensure a good nights rest for all. Gail "The Webby" <nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam@san.rr.com> wrote in message news:nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam-BB69AD.18130416072005@news-rdr-02.socal. rr.com... > > >> >It's interesting that more than 20 posts went into a thread and the > > >> >person's main question, the subject line, was not addressed. It was [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > > Webby > I hope your relataive does well. The intensity of this discussion > should ensure a good nights rest for all. > Gail Thank you for your good wishes. Yes, it is an intense subject matter for discussion in any environment. And here, in usenet, it is especially challenging. A good rest can't hurt any of us. Webby > "The Webby" <nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam@san.rr.com> wrote in message > news:nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam-BB69AD.18130416072005@news-rdr-02.socal. [quoted text clipped - 66 lines] > > > > Webby |
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