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zerge@hotmail.com - 14 Jul 2005 19:27 GMT
Last time I went to the dentist I had a moderate reaction to xylocaine.
I felt somewhat weak and out of breath; I guess my blood pressure
lowered.
Now I'm afraid of going to the dentist again. Are there any safer
options to xylocaine?
Thanks for the help
NOYB - 14 Jul 2005 19:47 GMT
> Last time I went to the dentist I had a moderate reaction to xylocaine.
> I felt somewhat weak and out of breath; I guess my blood pressure
> lowered.

Sounds like vasovagal hypotension...not an allergy.

Have you ever passed out from a shot before, or from giving blood?

> Now I'm afraid of going to the dentist again. Are there any safer
> options to xylocaine?

I've never heard of a documented case of an allergy to lidocaine
(xylocaine).
zerge@hotmail.com - 15 Jul 2005 16:49 GMT
> > Last time I went to the dentist I had a moderate reaction to xylocaine.
> > I felt somewhat weak and out of breath; I guess my blood pressure
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Have you ever passed out from a shot before, or from giving blood?

No, never

> > Now I'm afraid of going to the dentist again. Are there any safer
> > options to xylocaine?
>
> I've never heard of a documented case of an allergy to lidocaine
> (xylocaine).
zerge@hotmail.com - 15 Jul 2005 16:53 GMT
> > Last time I went to the dentist I had a moderate reaction to xylocaine.
> > I felt somewhat weak and out of breath; I guess my blood pressure
> > lowered.
>
> Sounds like vasovagal hypotension...not an allergy.

Now that you mention it you are right, I ASSUMED it was an allergic
reaction, but there was no rash, no edema, nothing like that. Only what
I describe above.
What is vasovagal hypotension and what causes it? Is it dangerous?

> Have you ever passed out from a shot before, or from giving blood?
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I've never heard of a documented case of an allergy to lidocaine
> (xylocaine).
Dr. Noogle - 15 Jul 2005 20:30 GMT
If you were allergic to any of the components, I wouldn´t risk giving
you another shot.  If I were you I would check up with an allergologist
(or however you may spell that), and see what you are allergic to.
Probably you are allergic to some preservative in the cartdrige, in
which case your dentist could maybe use a dermatologic cartdrige of
lidocaine, which has different preservatives
The Webby - 15 Jul 2005 20:52 GMT
> If you were allergic to any of the components, I wouldn´t risk giving
> you another shot.  If I were you I would check up with an allergologist
> (or however you may spell that), and see what you are allergic to.
> Probably you are allergic to some preservative in the cartdrige, in
> which case your dentist could maybe use a dermatologic cartdrige of
> lidocaine, which has different preservatives

Are you aware that your post arrived in smd 12 times in four minutes?

TW
Peter Meiers - 15 Jul 2005 22:01 GMT
Hi Webby,

it´s a very important post, isn´t it? ;)

All the best,
Peter

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> > If you were allergic to any of the components, I wouldn´t risk giving
> > you another shot.  If I were you I would check up with an allergologist
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>
> TW

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The Webby - 15 Jul 2005 22:06 GMT
> Hi Webby,
>
> it´s a very important post, isn´t it? ;)
>
> All the best,
> Peter

Hi Peter,

It's quite a post, that's for sure!  ;-)

My best to you too,
Webby

> ---------------------------------
> >
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> >
> > TW
W_B - 15 Jul 2005 22:08 GMT
>> Hi Webby,
>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>My best to you too,
>Webby

Still wondering what an allergologist is...

allergoogleologist ?

>> ---------------------------------
>> >
>> > > If you were allergic to any of the components, I wouldn´t risk giving
>> > > you another shot.  If I were you I would check up with an allergologist
>> > > (or however you may spell that),

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The Webby - 15 Jul 2005 22:21 GMT
> >> Hi Webby,
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> allergoogleologist ?

Dr. Noogle did give you the choice of spelling it as you wish... it's
right there in the post!

TW

> >> ---------------------------------
> >> >
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
> Take out the G'RBAGE
W_B - 15 Jul 2005 22:29 GMT
>> Still wondering what an allergologist is...
>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>TW

Does Noogle Google ?

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The Webby - 16 Jul 2005 00:35 GMT
> >> Still wondering what an allergologist is...
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
> Take out the G'RBAGE

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Webby!!
Dr. Steve - 16 Jul 2005 00:57 GMT
H: Sabra!

>> >> Still wondering what an allergologist is...
>> >>
[quoted text clipped - 111 lines]
>
>Webby!!

..
Stephen
Troy, Michigan, USA

I am writing on a Tablet-PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my handwriting.
Dr. Noogle - 17 Jul 2005 17:33 GMT
W_B ha escrito:

> >> Still wondering what an allergologist is...
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
> Take out the G'RBAGE

I'm sorry I posted the same message 162 times.  Something happened in
my computer and for some reason it sent the POST command over and over.

Yes, Noogle does google.

And WB,
> >> Still wondering what an allergologist is...

> >> allergoogleologist ?

AN alergologist is a specialist who diagnoses what a patient reacts
alergically to.
An allergoogleologist I guess is someone who works for google and
diagnoses alergic reactions to links on the internet.
W_B - 17 Jul 2005 21:24 GMT
>W_B ha escrito:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>An allergoogleologist I guess is someone who works for google and
>diagnoses alergic reactions to links on the internet.

Good answer !

We call it an 'allergist' in the US.

Less syllables, easier to say.

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Peter Meiers - 16 Jul 2005 07:53 GMT
> Still wondering what an allergologist is...

There´s no such term in the US? An allergologist is a physician
specialized in diagnosis and treatment of allergies. In most cases he is
a "dermatologist + allergologist" as announced on his sign.

Is this a rather European phenomenon?

Best,
Peter

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Dr. Steve - 16 Jul 2005 17:02 GMT
>> Still wondering what an allergologist is...
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>Best,
>Peter

The spelling is different here.
..
Stephen
Troy, Michigan, USA

I am writing on a Tablet-PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my handwriting.
W_B - 16 Jul 2005 20:31 GMT
>> Still wondering what an allergologist is...
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>Best,
>Peter

Yep, you Euros spell differently.

Allergist

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Peter Meiers - 17 Jul 2005 00:19 GMT

> Yep, you Euros spell differently.
>
> Allergist

OK. So it seems to be pretty clear that someone who speaks of
"allergologist" can´t be American.

Peter

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The Webby - 17 Jul 2005 00:52 GMT
>  
> > Yep, you Euros spell differently.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Peter

My sister has lived in England for about 15 years.  I think she's
forgotten half of her American english and the other half ... well, I'm
not always sure what she's talking about ...  ;-)

Webby
Steven Bornfeld - 17 Jul 2005 17:10 GMT
>  
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Peter

    I'm still working on why the Brits call it "aluminium".

Steve

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The Webby - 17 Jul 2005 17:14 GMT
> >  
> >
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Steve

Because they can't pronounce aluminum?  ;-)

TW
The Webby - 17 Jul 2005 17:18 GMT
In article
<nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam-DD66BE.09143017072005@news-rdr-03.socal.
rr.com>,

> > >  
> > >
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> TW

A more serious reply might begin with this link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium

And you can learn about North American English v. all the other English
styles.  :-)

Webby
W_B - 17 Jul 2005 20:00 GMT
>>  
>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>Steve

It's because they can't read nor spell ?

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Peter Meiers - 17 Jul 2005 20:28 GMT
> >>Yep, you Euros spell differently.
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Steve

... the allergist? You must be joking.

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The Webby - 17 Jul 2005 20:47 GMT
> > >>Yep, you Euros spell differently.
> > >>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> ... the allergist? You must be joking.

But then we do have the otolaryngologist ...

Otolaryngologist: A physician specialized in diagnosing and treating
diseases of the head and neck, especially those involving the ears,
nose, and throat (ENT). Also called an ENT, ENT doctor, or ENT physician.

It seems "we" are simply inconsistent, Peter!  ;-)

Webby
Steven Bornfeld - 17 Jul 2005 20:50 GMT
>>>>>Yep, you Euros spell differently.
>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> Webby

    Seeing as how the official name of the specialty usually leaves the
"rhino" out of "ENT", I wonder if there is a subspecialty of "rhinologist".

Steve

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Peter Meiers - 17 Jul 2005 21:21 GMT
> >>>        I'm still working on why the Brits call it "aluminium".
> >>>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>         Seeing as how the official name of the specialty usually leaves the
> "rhino" out of "ENT", I wonder if there is a subspecialty of "rhinologist".

I´d be ready to bet you Americans would then call him rhinist ;-)

Peter

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W_B - 17 Jul 2005 21:28 GMT
>>         Seeing as how the official name of the specialty usually leaves the
>> "rhino" out of "ENT", I wonder if there is a subspecialty of "rhinologist".
>
>I´d be ready to bet you Americans would then call him rhinist ;-)
>
>Peter

Nope, we call them plastic surgeons.

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The Webby - 17 Jul 2005 21:23 GMT
> >>>>>Yep, you Euros spell differently.
> >>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
> Steve

Would we find them at the zoo?

Webby ;-)
W_B - 17 Jul 2005 21:27 GMT
>    Seeing as how the official name of the specialty usually leaves the
>"rhino" out of "ENT", I wonder if there is a subspecialty of "rhinologist".
>
>Steve

Well they don't do a plasty on real rhinos do they ?

It's probably a Serengeti thing...

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Stormin Mormon - 16 Jul 2005 22:37 GMT
In the US, we have "allergist" who is a person studying or treating
allergies.

I've suffered allergies for about 30 years, and have seen one of them in my
youth. He had a thing for syringes, aparently. His office staff has employed
more syringes on me than anyone before, or since.

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W_B wrote:

> Still wondering what an allergologist is...

There´s no such term in the US? An allergologist is a physician
specialized in diagnosis and treatment of allergies. In most cases he is
a "dermatologist + allergologist" as announced on his sign.

Is this a rather European phenomenon?

Best,
Peter

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Stormin Mormon - 16 Jul 2005 22:37 GMT
allergoogleologist. Noun.
A doctor who treats people who break out when doing web searches.

allergoogleology. Noun.
The study of allergic reactions to web searches.

allergoogleological. Adverb.
That which relates to the study of reactions to web searches.

Remember: Always look for the BWAAHHAAA (Better Website allergoogleologist
Association of Higher Helping And allergoogleological Assistance) logo
proudly displayed at your local allergoogleologist.

For more information, visit www.allergoogleologist.com

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Still wondering what an allergologist is...

allergoogleologist ?
W_B - 17 Jul 2005 17:44 GMT
Now that was funny.

>allergoogleologist. Noun.
>A doctor who treats people who break out when doing web searches.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>For more information, visit www.allergoogleologist.com

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Stormin Mormon - 16 Jul 2005 22:30 GMT
I hope that shaky handed poster isn't a dentist.

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In article <1121455822.575740.194150@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"Dr. Noogle" <clemagami@gmail.com> wrote:

> lidocaine, which has different preservatives

Are you aware that your post arrived in smd 12 times in four minutes?

TW
Stormin Mormon - 16 Jul 2005 22:30 GMT
I've heard that the lido in spinal trays is without preservatives. But, that
may be incorrect.

Do I remember that procaine used to have some reactions after use? Lido was
supposed to be more friendly.

How about mepivicaine, priolocaine, articaine, and my favorite,
vaudvillecane (different spelling).

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If you were allergic to any of the components, I wouldn´t risk giving
you another shot.  If I were you I would check up with an allergologist
(or however you may spell that), and see what you are allergic to.
Probably you are allergic to some preservative in the cartdrige, in
which case your dentist could maybe use a dermatologic cartdrige of
lidocaine, which has different preservatives
Steven Bornfeld - 16 Jul 2005 23:23 GMT
> I've heard that the lido in spinal trays is without preservatives. But, that
> may be incorrect.
>
> Do I remember that procaine used to have some reactions after use? Lido was
> supposed to be more friendly.

    Ester-based anesthetics such as procaine were said to have a higher
incidence of allergy than amide-based anesthetics such as licocaine,
prilocaine, mepivacaine.

Steve

> How about mepivicaine, priolocaine, articaine, and my favorite,
> vaudvillecane (different spelling).

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Dr. Noogle - 15 Jul 2005 20:30 GMT
If you were allergic to any of the components, I wouldn´t risk giving
you another shot.  If I were you I would check up with an allergologist
(or however you may spell that), and see what you are allergic to.
Probably you are allergic to some preservative in the cartdrige, in
which case your dentist could maybe use a dermatologic cartdrige of
lidocaine, which has different preservatives
Dr. Noogle - 15 Jul 2005 20:31 GMT
If you were allergic to any of the components, I wouldn´t risk giving
you another shot.  If I were you I would check up with an allergologist
(or however you may spell that), and see what you are allergic to.
Probably you are allergic to some preservative in the cartdrige, in
which case your dentist could maybe use a dermatologic cartdrige of
lidocaine, which has different preservatives
Dr. Noogle - 15 Jul 2005 20:31 GMT
If you were allergic to any of the components, I wouldn´t risk giving
you another shot.  If I were you I would check up with an allergologist
(or however you may spell that), and see what you are allergic to.
Probably you are allergic to some preservative in the cartdrige, in
which case your dentist could maybe use a dermatologic cartdrige of
lidocaine, which has different preservatives
Dr. Noogle - 15 Jul 2005 20:31 GMT
If you were allergic to any of the components, I wouldn´t risk giving
you another shot.  If I were you I would check up with an allergologist
(or however you may spell that), and see what you are allergic to.
Probably you are allergic to some preservative in the cartdrige, in
which case your dentist could maybe use a dermatologic cartdrige of
lidocaine, which has different preservatives
Dr. Noogle - 15 Jul 2005 20:31 GMT
If you were allergic to any of the components, I wouldn´t risk giving
you another shot.  If I were you I would check up with an allergologist
(or however you may spell that), and see what you are allergic to.
Probably you are allergic to some preservative in the cartdrige, in
which case your dentist could maybe use a dermatologic cartdrige of
lidocaine, which has different preservatives
Dr. Noogle - 15 Jul 2005 20:31 GMT
If you were allergic to any of the components, I wouldn´t risk giving
you another shot.  If I were you I would check up with an allergologist
(or however you may spell that), and see what you are allergic to.
Probably you are allergic to some preservative in the cartdrige, in
which case your dentist could maybe use a dermatologic cartdrige of
lidocaine, which has different preservatives
Dr. Noogle - 15 Jul 2005 20:32 GMT
If you were allergic to any of the components, I wouldn´t risk giving
you another shot.  If I were you I would check up with an allergologist
(or however you may spell that), and see what you are allergic to.
Probably you are allergic to some preservative in the cartdrige, in
which case your dentist could maybe use a dermatologic cartdrige of
lidocaine, which has different preservatives
Dr. Noogle - 15 Jul 2005 20:32 GMT
If you were allergic to any of the components, I wouldn´t risk giving
you another shot.  If I were you I would check up with an allergologist
(or however you may spell that), and see what you are allergic to.
Probably you are allergic to some preservative in the cartdrige, in
which case your dentist could maybe use a dermatologic cartdrige of
lidocaine, which has different preservatives
Dr. Noogle - 15 Jul 2005 20:32 GMT
If you were allergic to any of the components, I wouldn´t risk giving
you another shot.  If I were you I would check up with an allergologist
(or however you may spell that), and see what you are allergic to.
Probably you are allergic to some preservative in the cartdrige, in
which case your dentist could maybe use a dermatologic cartdrige of
lidocaine, which has different preservatives
Dr. Noogle - 15 Jul 2005 20:32 GMT
If you were allergic to any of the components, I wouldn´t risk giving
you another shot.  If I were you I would check up with an allergologist
(or however you may spell that), and see what you are allergic to.
Probably you are allergic to some preservative in the cartdrige, in
which case your dentist could maybe use a dermatologic cartdrige of
lidocaine, which has different preservatives
Dr. Noogle - 15 Jul 2005 20:34 GMT
If you were allergic to any of the components, I wouldn´t risk giving
you another shot.  If I were you I would check up with an allergologist
(or however you may spell that), and see what you are allergic to.
Probably you are allergic to some preservative in the cartdrige, in
which case your dentist could maybe use a dermatologic cartdrige of
lidocaine, which has different preservatives
W_B - 15 Jul 2005 21:55 GMT
>If you were allergic to any of the components, I wouldn´t risk giving
>you another shot.  If I were you I would check up with an allergologist
>(or however you may spell that), and see what you are allergic to.
>Probably you are allergic to some preservative in the cartdrige, in
>which case your dentist could maybe use a dermatologic cartdrige of
>lidocaine, which has different preservatives

We heard you the first time, no need to post twelve times.
Is that you j/-\|\| ?

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Jacob - 14 Jul 2005 22:17 GMT
You should check with your dentist; it's really very difficult to advise on
something like this without knowing your entire medical history.

> Last time I went to the dentist I had a moderate reaction to xylocaine.
> I felt somewhat weak and out of breath; I guess my blood pressure
> lowered.
> Now I'm afraid of going to the dentist again. Are there any safer
> options to xylocaine?
> Thanks for the help
Aosmosis - 15 Jul 2005 09:23 GMT
> You should check with your dentist; it's really very difficult to advise
> on
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>> options to xylocaine?
>> Thanks for the help

Xylocaine allergy is very rare. Never heard of a documented case in the UK.
The allergy was probably due to some of the preservatives that they use. Go
to a dermatologist and get some patch testing done.
 
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