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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / July 2005If I were looking for a dentist
Over the years, many people have posted asking for recommendations for dentists in their home areas. It occurred to me that I should be daring enough to ask a question of smd dental professionals. If I, as you know me, were looking for a dentist, how many of you would be interested in taking me (and my case) on? There really aren't any secrets about my circumstances. I just thought it might be an interesting question to ask *and* my feelings will not be hurt by replies saying "no thanks". I'm not looking for a dentist, per se, but if I were ... how many of you would take me into your practice? Webby (who has been known to ask the hypothetical for serious reasons) I seldom back down from a good challenge. > Over the years, many people have posted asking for recommendations for > dentists in their home areas. It occurred to me that I should be daring [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Webby (who has been known to ask the hypothetical for serious reasons) > I seldom back down from a good challenge. I know. Webby > "The Webby" <nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam@san.rr.com> wrote in message > news:nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam-5B79D8.09462509072005@news-rdr-02.socal.rr [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > > > Webby (who has been known to ask the hypothetical for serious reasons) >I seldom back down from a good challenge. Wanna race ? -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com sure  Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen [What's a Temporary?], D.D.S. Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > >>I seldom back down from a good challenge. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Take out the G'RBAGE > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >sure >>>I seldom back down from a good challenge. >> >> Wanna race ? >> -- >> >> W_B OK, you in the Isletta, and I will ride a bicycle. -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE I could lose that one. :-)) For those who don't know me, my Isetta is a 900 lb car with a 13 HP engine. >>sure > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > Take out the G'RBAGE >I could lose that one. :-)) > > For those who don't know me, my Isetta is a 900 lb car with a 13 HP > engine. Another gas hog SUV carabelli VBG My weed wacker would kick its' butt carabelli Yeah, but more people smile and wave at me when I drive by in the Isetta. [I don't know if it is from enjoying seeing my car run down the street, or laughing at how silly it looks] Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen [What's a Temporary?], D.D.S. Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > >>I could lose that one. :-)) [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > carabelli You don't want to know the answer. <G> Fawks > Yeah, but more people smile and wave at me when I drive by in the Isetta. > > [I don't know if it is from enjoying seeing my car run down the street, or > laughing at how silly it looks] I drove down a side street in it one time (about 15 years ago). A young child stared at the car with his mouth wide open (really). So, I drove around the block again and tooted the horn at him. Now he starts laughing. So I do it again, Now he the poor kid is rolling on the sidewalk laughing his head off. Poor guy was probably scarred for life. Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen [What's a Temporary?], D.D.S. Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > > You don't want to know the answer. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> [I don't know if it is from enjoying seeing my car run down the street, >> or laughing at how silly it looks] >>I could lose that one. :-)) >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >carabelli I could outrun it with my 1947 Ford 8N... ...tractor ! -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com My car does 0-45 in 23 seconds !!!! Slower with a passenger. Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen [What's a Temporary?], D.D.S. Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > >>>I could lose that one. :-)) [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Take out the G'RBAGE > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >My car does 0-45 in 23 seconds !!!! Slower with a passenger. My tractor has 26 -28 horsepower ! Don't know how much it weighs. Doubt that it would reach 20 mph. (depending what you read) -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > >My car does 0-45 in 23 seconds !!!! Slower with a passenger. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Take out the G'RBAGE > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com So did you find the dentist with these wheels? ;-) TW I've got a 1961 model 661. More horses than the 8N, but pretty meager by today's standards. Two stage clutch (half way down lets me shift while keeping the PTO going) It pulls a 14" two bottom plow pretty well. I've logged over 200 hours the last three or four years (mainly mowing pasture). :-) Fawks > My tractor has 26 -28 horsepower ! > Don't know how much it weighs. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Take out the G'RBAGE > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com The 8N has a one stage clutch. It pulls a 4' brush hog pretty well. Have been told not to put a box blade on it as they are notorious for flipping over. Earlier this year there was a story on the news about 'tractor day' when the kids could ride their tractors to school. One kid was killed when his 8N flipped over on him. Sad. >I've got a 1961 model 661. More horses than the 8N, but >pretty meager by today's standards. Two stage clutch [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >> Take out the G'RBAGE >> wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com I've used an 8N for years without any problems. My brother and I mowed about 40 acres, and row cropped another 40 for several years with an 8N in the mid 60's. More people turn over old John Deere's around here, but it's easy to get in trouble with about anything. Mowing pond dams seemed to be one of the most dangerous activities. Fawks > The 8N has a one stage clutch. > It pulls a 4' brush hog pretty well. [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > Take out the G'RBAGE > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com I remember watching a relative ride his brother on the "hood" of an 8N despite my protests that it was not safe. About 300 feet further, the brother fell off and was run over by the rear tires of the tractor. Very lucky that the relatives had not learned about filling the big rear tires with sand for added weight. I watched in horror. I still can't believe he did not die from that. Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen [What's a Temporary?], D.D.S. Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > I've used an 8N for years without any problems. > My brother and I mowed about 40 acres, and row [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] >> Take out the G'RBAGE >> wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Have heard about putting water in the back tires, but not sand. People just don't realize how dangerous a tractor can be. >I remember watching a relative ride his brother on the "hood" of an 8N >despite my protests that it was not safe. About 300 feet further, the [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >>> tractors to school. One kid was killed when his >>> 8N flipped over on him. Sad. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >Have heard about putting water in the back tires, but not sand. > >People just don't realize how dangerous a tractor can be. It is probably water and I remembered wrong. You know how much of a "country-kid" I am. .. Stephen Troy, Michigan, USA I am writing on a Tablet-PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my handwriting. Farm tire 'fluid mechanics' 101 Do a little research on tractor tire 'fluid' and you will find the real answer. Water would be fine inside a tubed tire in areas where the temperature does not go below freezing very often. Since the tire is not completely filled, a frozen block of ice in one section of the tire would have things out of balance in winter conditions. Even the expansion of the freezing water could damage the rims. This means that something other than pure water must be used everywhere else. A mix of anti-freeze and water can be used, but it is more expensive than one of the more common mixes. Calcium chloride (29.8%) is cheaper and effective to prevent the fluid from freezing. However it is quite corrosive and must be washed off of the rims or other metal parts that it comes in contact with during filling, tire punctures, or repairs. Obviously it cannot be used in tubeless tires. My tractor had probably had this fluid it its back tires at some time, for when I had new tires put on, one rim was rusted so badly that I had to get a new one (only $400!). The other rear rim was fixable with some creative welding. Newer concoctions are available that will not freeze and will not damage tubes, tires, or rims, but I imagine they cost a little more too. I don't have any fluid the tires at this time and get along pretty well. I think it was about $50 option per tire to have fluid added. The added weight would help traction plowing, but you can also dig a big hole and bottom out on the frame. :-) Fawks >>Have heard about putting water in the back tires, but not sand. >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I am writing on a Tablet-PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my handwriting. thanks Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen [What's a Temporary?], D.D.S. Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > Farm tire 'fluid mechanics' 101 > [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] >> I am writing on a Tablet-PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my >> handwriting. I'm sure you're thrilled. <VBG> Fawks > thanks >I'm sure you're thrilled. > ><VBG> >Fawks > >> thanks I was. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Cool. Is your 8N still 6 volt or has it been converted to 12? (my 661 is still 6 volt and starts great) Fawks > I was. > -- > > W_B > Take out the G'RBAGE > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com 12V conversion. Starts most of the time <g> Has an upgraded seat too. >Cool. Is your 8N still 6 volt or has it been converted to 12? >(my 661 is still 6 volt and starts great) [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> Take out the G'RBAGE >> wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > 12V conversion. Starts most of the time <g> > Has an upgraded seat too. Seats are pretty important for any sustained use. Handled that bumpy ride pretty well as a kid. It probably wouldn't be so easy now. Fawks Hey, it is real gear-head stuff. I love it! My engine should be returning from Sunny California this week. I will be back to smoking out the neighborhood. Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen [What's a Temporary?], D.D.S. Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > > I'm sure you're thrilled. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >> thanks Maybe your neighborhood should hire you for mosquito control? ;-) Fawks > Hey, it is real gear-head stuff. I love it! > > My engine should be returning from Sunny California this week. I will be > back to smoking out the neighborhood. >Maybe your neighborhood should hire you for mosquito >control? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> My engine should be returning from Sunny California this week. I will be >> back to smoking out the neighborhood. I have to remember to never back it into the garage. I need the tailpipe as close to outdoors as possible when I start her up. Mrs. Steve does not enjoy a house full of 2-stroke smoke. .. Stephen Troy, Michigan, USA I am writing on a Tablet-PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my handwriting. >>Maybe your neighborhood should hire you for mosquito >>control? [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >.. >Stephen Troy You can rig up a garden sprayer by mounting the wand partially into the tail pipe. we cut the wand (metal only) an splice fuel line between the parts. This way you can have the garden sprayer next to you with the activator handle, and the tip is in the pipe. 8 to 16 oz of 50/50 Malathion in 2 gal of Diesel is a good fog for mosquitos. Works well for 4-wheelers, tractors, and.... Wait for it.... ...Saabs ! <VBG> -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Probably would burn well enough in these old engines with those chemicals right in the fuel tank. But, after waiting 6 weeks for my engine, I am going to be a good kid and only run it the way the "guru's" of 2-stroke cars suggest. Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen [What's a Temporary?], D.D.S. Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > >>>Maybe your neighborhood should hire you for mosquito [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > Take out the G'RBAGE > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >Probably would burn well enough in these old engines with those chemicals >right in the fuel tank. But, after waiting 6 weeks for my engine, I am >going to be a good kid and only run it the way the "guru's" of 2-stroke cars >suggest. Best idea. But the rig can be adapted to use with a riding lawnmower or even any readily movable engine. 40:1 ? It's the heat of the exhaust that creates the fog. The mist is sprayed just slightly into the exhaust outlet or just beyond. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > It's the heat of the exhaust that creates the fog. > The mist is sprayed just slightly into the exhaust > outlet or just beyond. Same deal with the smoke systems on stunt planes. (Many stunt pilots have teeth, so this is on-topic) Vaughn In article <ODTDe.460843$cg1.345225@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, > > It's the heat of the exhaust that creates the fog. > > The mist is sprayed just slightly into the exhaust [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Vaughn And they might even be looking for a dentist! ;-) Webby >> It's the heat of the exhaust that creates the fog. >> The mist is sprayed just slightly into the exhaust [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Vaughn Not to mention the probocis of the mosquito can be viewed as a hollow tooth ! -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >I've used an 8N for years without any problems. >My brother and I mowed about 40 acres, and row >cropped another 40 for several years with an 8N >in the mid 60's. What's 'row cropped' ? Do you think the 8N would pull a small plow ? If so, what size ? Remember that I am new to this stuff. >More people turn over old John Deere's around here, >but it's easy to get in trouble with about anything. >Mowing pond dams seemed to be one of the most >dangerous activities. Yikes ! >Fawks -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com 'Row crop' means to plant soy beans, corn, milo, etc. IIRC, we pulled a 12" two bottom plow with the 8N, followed by a pass or two pulling a disc harrow before hooking on a 2 row planter. We would use a cultivator once or twice through the season to knock down most of the weeds. We paid a neighbor with a combine to do the harvesting. Pretty low tech operation back then. 8N's and other old Fords are very popular for blading gravel drives, mowing, and plowing gardens (out here anyway). If you're new to plowing, you have to adjust the top bar of your three point hitch and the right hydraulic bar (the only one with a crank handle <G>) to get the best tilt of the plow to turn the soil. After your first pass, the right side tires run in the furrow created by your last trip across the garden (going the same direction). Small plots can be done by just backing up to make each trip after starting on one side, while larger ones you plow both ways from each side working towards the middle. Plows don't work very well until they 'scour' (all rust and/or paint gets rubbed off of the blades and the metal is polished by the soil. After use, protect the surfaces with grease or keep it inside sprayed with a little WD-40. :-) Fawks > What's 'row cropped' ? > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > W_B > I could lose that one. :-)) > > For those who don't know me, my Isetta is a 900 lb car with a 13 HP engine. That gets.... what? ...400 miles to the gallon? Cheers, see you all in two weeks, hopefully. SP SignatureFinally: take out the TRASHH > > I could lose that one. :-)) > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Cheers, see you all in two weeks, hopefully. > SP It's a very good thing that both Mrs. Steve and Jr. Steve are lightweights!!!!!! TW >> I could lose that one. :-)) >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Cheers, see you all in two weeks, hopefully. >SP I have never been able to burn an entire tank of gas in the same season. The gas ends up evaporating out of the tank before I use it up. The advertisements from the 1950's claimed 75 MPG .. Stephen Troy, Michigan, USA I am writing on a Tablet-PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my handwriting. >>> For those who don't know me, my Isetta is a 900 lb car with a 13 HP engine. >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >.. >Stephen Can't keep it running long enough to burn a tank of gas ? How much does the tank hold ? -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE >>>> For those who don't know me, my Isetta is a 900 lb car with a 13 HP engine. >>> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >How much does the tank hold ? 2.5 gallons. .. Stephen Troy, Michigan, USA I am writing on a Tablet-PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my handwriting. >>>I have never been able to burn an entire tank of gas in the same >>>season. The gas ends up evaporating out of the tank before I use it [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >.. >Stephen Easy to calculate MPG Fill the tank, drive, keep track of miles covered, fill tank again. Do calculations. -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE >>>>I have never been able to burn an entire tank of gas in the same >>>>season. The gas ends up evaporating out of the tank before I use it [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >Do calculations. It should give over 200 miles O a tank. I don't put that many miles on it in a year. The gas cop is vented to atmosphere, so the gas actually evaporates away every year. .. Stephen Troy, Michigan, USA I am writing on a Tablet-PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my handwriting. >>>2.5 gallons. >>>.. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >Stephen >Troy, Do you use a gasoline preservative to keep the *gunk* out ? -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE >>>>2.5 gallons. >>>>.. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >Do you use a gasoline preservative to keep the *gunk* out ? Gas evaporates too fast for that to be useful. .. Stephen Troy, Michigan, USA I am writing on a Tablet-PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my handwriting. >>Do you use a gasoline preservative to keep the *gunk* out ? > >Gas evaporates too fast for that to be useful. >.. >Stephen What, you don't mind varnish in your fuel systems ? Perhaps I am not understanding the situation completely. -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE >>>Do you use a gasoline preservative to keep the *gunk* out ? >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Perhaps I am not understanding the situation completely. The big problem with old fuel in a vehicle is that the "varnish" settles out of the liquid fuel if it sits long enough. When it evaporates, it seldom leaves any residue. Mary times the recommendation is to remove as much fuel as possible, open the system and let the remainder evaporate. that is the safest way to store a vehicle. .. Stephen Troy, Michigan, USA I am writing on a Tablet-PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my handwriting. >>>>Do you use a gasoline preservative to keep the *gunk* out ? >>> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >.. >Stephen Troy So you drain the fuel system ? Or do you let the remaining fuel [ <2.5 gal ] evaporate. Agree that if you drain the fuel tank *and* the carburetor bowl there is no problem. Gets rid of sediment to boot ! -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE >>>>>Do you use a gasoline preservative to keep the *gunk* out ? >>>> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >carburetor bowl there is no problem. >Gets rid of sediment to boot ! The gas cap on this car is vented to atmosphere with a 3/8" hole. Over the course of a few months, everything evaporates. It has a Bing carburetor with leather valves. The fuel dries out in the fuel bowl as well. .. Stephen Troy, Michigan, USA I am writing on a Tablet-PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my handwriting. >>Agree that if you drain the fuel tank *and* the >>carburetor bowl there is no problem. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >.. >Stephen Troy OK Stephen Troy, am catching your drift. It puzzles me that in your dental practice that you love to be on the bleeding edge, yet you embrace old technology in your automobiles. How do you keep 'leather valves' pliable ? 3/8ths ? Dang, that's a socket drive. -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE >>>Agree that if you drain the fuel tank *and* the >>>carburetor bowl there is no problem. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >3/8ths ? Dang, that's a socket drive. Oops, should be 3/16. Fortunately, the Bing carburetor has a large motorcycle following. so you can still get parts 50 years later. I suppose the vehicles balance out my need for technology at the office. .. Stephen Troy, Michigan, USA I am writing on a Tablet-PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my handwriting. >>3/8ths ? Dang, that's a socket drive. > >Oops, should be 3/16. > > Fortunately, the Bing carburetor has a large motorcycle following. so >you can still get parts 50 years later. That's kewl, too bad you can't get parts for a 2 y.o. computer. >I suppose the vehicles balance out my need for technology at the >office. >.. >Stephen Troy I am a 'balance' maven. -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE In article <nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam-5B79D8.09462509072005@news- rdr-02.socal.rr.com>, nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam@san.rr.com says... > Over the years, many people have posted asking for recommendations for > dentists in their home areas. It occurred to me that I should be daring [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Webby (who has been known to ask the hypothetical for serious reasons) You should be wondering which dentist you will choose, not which dentist will choose you. Remember, it's your mouth, and the money flows from you to the dentist. That means YOU have most of the decision-making power. If some dentist actually refuses to see you for some reason, then it's his/her loss, not yours. > In article <nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam-5B79D8.09462509072005@news- > rdr-02.socal.rr.com>, nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam@san.rr.com says... [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > You should be wondering which dentist you will choose, not which dentist > will choose you. My current dentist is far from where I live. It takes an entire day to drive to, be seen, and to drive home. > Remember, it's your mouth, and the money flows from you to the dentist. > That means YOU have most of the decision-making power. If some dentist > actually refuses to see you for some reason, then it's his/her loss, not > yours. By "refusal", I for any reason; mainly that a particular practitioner might intend only to say that he/she feels that someone else may have better skills at meeting my needs as well as more desire. Thanks for your comments. W. There are some rather unique needs presented in this particular discussion thread. James probably was not aware of the special nature involved. > In article <nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam-5B79D8.09462509072005@news- > rdr-02.socal.rr.com>, nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam@san.rr.com says... [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > actually refuses to see you for some reason, then it's his/her loss, not > yours. > There are some rather unique needs presented in this particular discussion > thread. James probably was not aware of the special nature involved. Let me add that certain perople are well worth the investiment of extra time and effort to acheive the best results possible under less than ideal conditions. I might suggest asking Hu-Friedy to special make custom scalers to adequately clean the lingual surfaces of limited access situations like this. One could make a pattern using copper wire or heavy ortho wire and then ask H-F to copy it. >> In article <nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam-5B79D8.09462509072005@news- >> rdr-02.socal.rr.com>, nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam@san.rr.com says... [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >> actually refuses to see you for some reason, then it's his/her loss, not >> yours. > > There are some rather unique needs presented in this particular discussion > > thread. James probably was not aware of the special nature involved. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > this. One could make a pattern using copper wire or heavy ortho wire and > then ask H-F to copy it. One of my dentists along the way did fashion instruments just for me that he took into the OR for my dental work back in Dec. 1992. Webby > >> In article <nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam-5B79D8.09462509072005@news- > >> rdr-02.socal.rr.com>, nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam@san.rr.com says... [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > >> actually refuses to see you for some reason, then it's his/her loss, not > >> yours. A nice set of Graceys should do the trick. >> There are some rather unique needs presented in this particular discussion >> thread. James probably was not aware of the special nature involved. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >this. One could make a pattern using copper wire or heavy ortho wire and >then ask H-F to copy it. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com 10 mm of inter-incisal opening. Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen [What's a Temporary?], D.D.S. Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > > A nice set of Graceys should do the trick. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Take out the G'RBAGE > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > 10 mm of inter-incisal opening. No protrustion, retrusion or excursion movements of mandible. TW > > A nice set of Graceys should do the trick. > > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Take out the G'RBAGE > > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com In article <nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam-1878F4.11155412072005@news-rdr-03.socal. rr.com>, > > 10 mm of inter-incisal opening. > > No protrustion [sic], retrusion or excursion movements of mandible. > > TW I'm having trouble with my new glasses so using the old ones. Can't see worth much with either one so it seems. Sorry for so many typos lately. TW > > > A nice set of Graceys should do the trick. > > > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > > Take out the G'RBAGE > > > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Bah!,, never apologize for typos to us. Look at my postings. I can't help but sit here thinking about TMJ implants with a second hinge just above the angle of the mandible. Not quite how nature did it, but it might allow for greater opening in the absence of anterior temporalis and lateral pterygoid muscles. > In article > <nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam-1878F4.11155412072005@news-rdr-03.socal. [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] >> > > Take out the G'RBAGE >> > > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > There are some rather unique needs presented in this particular discussion > thread. James probably was not aware of the special nature involved. Yes, that occurred to me immediately. But because I'm not familiar with the address used by "james", it also means that I don't know who he might be; maybe someone familiar with the subtleties of the proposed discussion and his points may have well been intended as worded. Who knows? So, "james", are you aware of what I meant when I wrote, "There really aren't any secrets about my circumstances."? If not.. ??? Webby > > In article <nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam-5B79D8.09462509072005@news- > > rdr-02.socal.rr.com>, nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam@san.rr.com says... [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > actually refuses to see you for some reason, then it's his/her loss, not > > yours. What are the secret circumstances??? "The Webby" <nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam@san.rr.com> wrote in message news:nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam-12987D.13443609072005@news-rdr-02.socal. rr.com... > > There are some rather unique needs presented in this particular discussion > > thread. James probably was not aware of the special nature involved. [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > > actually refuses to see you for some reason, then it's his/her loss, not > > > yours. > What are the secret circumstances??? There aren't any. There are some aspects of my circumstances that I prefer not to discuss in a public forum though. Webby > "The Webby" <nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam@san.rr.com> wrote in message > news:nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam-12987D.13443609072005@news-rdr-02.socal. [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > not > > > > yours. fair enough... "The Webby" <nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam@san.rr.com> wrote in message news:nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam-04631A.07012511072005@news-rdr-02.socal. rr.com... > > What are the secret circumstances??? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > > > "The Webby" <nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam@san.rr.com> wrote in message news:nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam-12987D.13443609072005@news-rdr-02.socal. > > rr.com... > > > [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > not > > > > > yours. I've worked on quite a few patients with 'circumstances' that add to the difficulty of dental treatment. I'd just have to examine you and decide if I thought that I was going to be as good as the next guy to deal with your problems. If I wasn't, then I would try to find the one who was. Fawks > Over the years, many people have posted asking for recommendations for > dentists in their home areas. It occurred to me that I should be daring [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Webby (who has been known to ask the hypothetical for serious reasons) > I've worked on quite a few patients with 'circumstances' that add to the > difficulty of dental treatment. I'd just have to examine you and decide [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Fawks Fair enough! Webby > > Over the years, many people have posted asking for recommendations for > > dentists in their home areas. It occurred to me that I should be daring [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > > > Webby (who has been known to ask the hypothetical for serious reasons) There was a woman neghbor that had no teeth, and her mouth was misshapen in her speech. She went to an Implants dental group that have quite a few dentists working there. Asking about dentures, implants? dont know which. They said she would not get used to anything. Seems like a very bad pronouncement, could that be so, or was it too difficult to tackle. Only thing I can think of is, that maybe her gums and bones would not accept anything. But even that doesn't seem plausible. I thought it was very harsh. it was not a question of money. She was nice looking and young enough to still wish for teeth. What could be the reason and since this dental group is close by, I have never felt the same about them. I hope she has found some sort of solution by now. Gail "The Webby" <nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam@san.rr.com> wrote in message news:nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam-8C9F36.07424011072005@news-rdr-02.socal. rr.com... > > I've worked on quite a few patients with 'circumstances' that add to the > > difficulty of dental treatment. I'd just have to examine you and decide [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > > > > > Webby (who has been known to ask the hypothetical for serious reasons) > Over the years, many people have posted asking for recommendations for > dentists in their home areas. It occurred to me that I should be daring > enough to ask a question of smd dental professionals. > > If I, as you know me, were looking for a dentist, how many of you would > be interested in taking me (and my case) on? I would never refuse to see a patient unless they were uncooperative or missed appointments. I _would_ quickly size up your situation and realize that I could perhaps maintain your mouth acceptably, but I couldn't do much more. Therefore, I'd refer you up to the University for the dentistry that would be more than I could handle. There are specialists I would refer you to and others whom I think would make the situation worse ( as in 'the road to Hell was paved by good intentions' ). We have a guy here who took eight years to do a Masters' in Dentistry so he could be in on the ground floor in Implantology when Branemark brought his wares to the University of Toronto. He is FANTASTIC with what he does in Prosthodontics, but he would not be the professional for you. I think the other thing I would do quite thuroughly is get a history of what had gone before and find out what exactly you were prepared to accept as risks for the procedures suggested to you. I would also have talked to the specialists involved and find out what they thought the chances of improving the situation would be. It is like being an advocate for the patient, who is faced with all these choices and not much way to appreciate the consequences and what is involved. Then I'd kick you out the door and go and have a beer and laugh like a madman. :-) SP SignatureFinally: take out the TRASHH > > Over the years, many people have posted asking for recommendations for > > dentists in their home areas. It occurred to me that I should be daring [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > madman. :-) > SP And I'd be so glad to know you as my friend who cared enough to do all of that .... :-))))))))) TW (I'm a lucky lady) |
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