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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / July 2005REQ: Home Crown Repair?
I have a crown that fell off of a root canal tooth. I can't afford, nor do I want to go through, having a permanent replacement cap put on my tooth. Due to complications, I would need surgery, and it would break my bank. I also do not want a bridge. So, I keep having the dentist glue the stupid thing back on every 6 months or so when it falls off again. It is working fine, but it costs like $60 each time, and I have to wait two weeks to get an appointment. Some dental assistant told me one time that the glue the dentist uses is the same as a commercially available epoxy type stuff, and I want to buy some and do the job myself. It sure doesn't seem like rocket science, and even if I mess up the root canal root, it is not good for anything anyhow because I cannot afford and do not feel like going through the operation to make a more permanent reattachment possible. Can anybody let me know what kind of glue would be adequate for this job? TIA I would NOT recommend this, but if you feel you MUST re-cement your own crown, you should purchase a dental cement from a reputable dental supply company. Otherwise, you risk using something that is not biocompatible, and it could be toxic. > I have a crown that fell off of a root canal tooth. I can't afford, > nor do I want to go through, having a permanent replacement cap put on [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > operation to make a more permanent reattachment possible. Can anybody > let me know what kind of glue would be adequate for this job? TIA >I would NOT recommend this, but if you feel you MUST re-cement your own >crown, you should purchase a dental cement from a reputable dental supply >company. Otherwise, you risk using something that is not biocompatible, and >it could be toxic. You cannot purchase dental cements from a *reputable* dental supply company unless you are a *dentist* ! What a stupid non-suggestion. -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE Actually, you can. As long as the product is a non-presciption product, it can be purchased. > >I would NOT recommend this, but if you feel you MUST re-cement your own > >crown, you should purchase a dental cement from a reputable dental supply [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > Take out the G'RBAGE >Actually, you can. As long as the product is a non-presciption product, it >can be purchased. Are there any companies or particular products you would recommend? He was not using UV to cure it because there would be no way to get the light up under there I guess. I remember he did scrape off some of the excess cement. TIA No. As I said in my original posting on July 8, I would NOT recommend that he do this. There are many things in life that one might be able to do, but SHOULD be left to an expert. This is one of them. Several friends of mine who are not dentists are avid hobbiests and build model boats/planes/vehicles, and they have told me that they have purchased dental instruments and "glues" periodically to help them build their models. To my knowledge, they have definitely NOT been treating their own dental problems. The sensible and prudent solution to his problem is to visit a dentist. > >Actually, you can. As long as the product is a non-presciption product, it > >can be purchased. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > the light up under there I guess. I remember he did scrape off some > of the excess cement. TIA > Actually, you can. As long as the product is a non-presciption product, it > can be purchased. Pretty much every dental supply I buy has a warning printed on it--to be used only by or on the prescription of a dentist. This includes temporary and permanent cements. Steve >>>I would NOT recommend this, but if you feel you MUST re-cement your own >>>crown, you should purchase a dental cement from a reputable dental supply [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >>wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >>Take out the G'RBAGE  SignatureMark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 Haven't seen the: " Caution: U.S. Federal Law Restricts This Device To Sale By Or On The Order Of A Dentist " thingy on most dental products ? >Actually, you can. As long as the product is a non-presciption product, it >can be purchased. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >> wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >> Take out the G'RBAGE -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > I have a crown that fell off of a root canal tooth. I can't afford, > nor do I want to go through, having a permanent replacement cap put on [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > as a commercially available epoxy type stuff, and I want to buy some > and do the job myself. It sure doesn't seem like rocket science... <snip> I'm no dentist but... I would be surprised if it were the same - for one thing it seems to set much faster than any regular epoxy I've used. Some dental glues are also cured by UV light for which you need a UV light source. The glue used to attach crowns to teeth must be clever stuff given the conditions and surfaces it has to stick. I mean sticking metals and ceramics to teeth in a slightly humid enviroment is challenge enough, but it also has to set quickly and withstand thermal and physical shock loads. Quite a challenge for the glue designers I imagine. Epoxy resin doesn't stick well to itself (unlike many other glues) so you would probably need to remove all traces of previous glue at least. I use regular and laminating epoxy resins to make fibreglass parts for my hobby. It's not something I would put in my mouth in the liquid state. The warnings on some trade packs of epoxy sometimes hint at there being cancer risks (Although I believe these only apply to exposure to the glue in the liguid state). A relative once gave me a leaflet she got from her employer (a school) - it was a notice banning epoxy from schools because of the risk of severe eye damage. I recall it mentioned evidence that eye damage continues even after the glue has been removed. It might be harmless but I'm now careful about limiting my exposure. Hi Colin, Are things getings any closer to normal in London? >> I have a crown that fell off of a root canal tooth. I can't afford, >> nor do I want to go through, having a permanent replacement cap put on [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > I'm > now careful about limiting my exposure. > Hi Colin, > > Are things getings any closer to normal in London? I'm in Belgium but from what I hear from family in the UK and the UK news channels it's like this.. The situation at one site is still very grim. The police are reporting difficulty getting access to one site due to the conditions in the tunnel. The police weren't giving numbers but it sounds like there are 20 to 30 people still unaccounted for and the implication is that they are probably still in the wreckage of one train. I wouldn't be surprised if the figure isn't higher because 20 people in a carriage at rush hour doesn't sound right. Frequently the carriages are full of people standing up. We can but hope. The last I heard there were just over 50 reported dead not counting these missing. On the streets Friday was very quiet but I believe the busses were running normally or near normally. Even the number 30. Many people took such a long time to get home on Thursday night that they decided to take a day off on Friday. Everyone is expecting Monday to be back to work as normal. The underground has problems on three lines but all the rest are running and busses used to bypass the problem areas. Nobody we know was involved but our thoughts are with those who were. Colin Thanks Colin, I feel very deeply for innocent people who have to suffer at the hands of crazy idiots like this. IF they want to strike out, it should be again military and against those who make decisions, not against ordinary folk. If they keep escalating this effort, at some point some government will tire of the game and wipe out half the innocents in the country the crazy idiots come from. I never want to see that. >> Hi Colin, >> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Colin The Times newspaper has printed some of the messages from Londoners caught up in the events. They say it all really... Posted outside Adgate tube station... We won't be intimedated. We won't be changed. We won't be divided. We won't be terrorised. Our resolve won't be shaken and in the memory of those who lost their lives We will defeat them. and from the web... Thursday, July 07, 2005 An open letter to the terrorist who tried to kill me today: F**k you, You missed me. Better luck next time. Andrew www.nontrivialsolutions.blogspot.com >Thanks Colin, > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >of the game and wipe out half the innocents in the country the crazy idiots >come from. I never want to see that. As far as Islamo-Facist Terrorists are concerned, I say *kill 'em all* let Allah sort them out. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com On Fri, 08 Jul 2005 22:22:12 GMT, Rex Rose <this_part_is_to_block_spam___cut_this_part_off_rex@rexrose.com> wrote: >Some dental >assistant told me one time that the glue the dentist uses is the same >as a commercially available epoxy type stuff, and I want to buy some >and do the job myself. Anyone who treats themself has a fool for a patient. Nothing that is an approved dental material is available commercially to a non-dentist. >it sure doesn't seem like rocket science, and >even if I mess up the root canal root, it is not good for anything >anyhow because I cannot afford and do not feel like going through the >operation to make a more permanent reattachment possible. Rocket science is easy. If you want to go farther, you need more fuel. To carry more fuel you need a bigger rocket. To propel a bigger rocket, you need more fuel, hence you need a bigger rocket.... And so it goes. Dentistry is much more intricate than that. >Can anybody >let me know what kind of glue would be adequate for this job? Only approved dental cements are adequate. >TIA SIA -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE >Anyone who treats themself has a fool for a patient. >Nothing that is an approved dental material is available >commercially to a non-dentist. I guess it's inevitable to get called names in a newsgroup, even by someone pretending to be a dentist... >Rocket science is easy. >If you want to go farther, you need more fuel. >To carry more fuel you need a bigger rocket. >To propel a bigger rocket, you need more fuel, >hence you need a bigger rocket.... > And so it goes. ...who of course thinks rocket science is easy... >Dentistry is much more intricate than that. > >>Can anybody >>let me know what kind of glue would be adequate for this job? > >Only approved dental cements are adequate. ...and doesn't know the names of any approved dental cements even though he is supposedly a dentist. >>Anyone who treats themself has a fool for a patient. >>Nothing that is an approved dental material is available >>commercially to a non-dentist. > >I guess it's inevitable to get called names in a newsgroup, even by >someone pretending to be a dentist... ja|\|, is that U ? >>Rocket science is easy. >>If you want to go farther, you need more fuel. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >...who of course thinks rocket science is easy... You need a bigger rocket. >>Dentistry is much more intricate than that. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >...and doesn't know the names of any approved dental cements even >though he is supposedly a dentist. How about Fleck's ? -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Rex Rose <this_part_is_to_block_spam___cut_this_part_off_rex@rexrose.com> wrote: > Can anybody > let me know what kind of glue would be adequate for this job? TIA Resist the temptation to use Krazy Glue. It doesn't work and is mildly toxic. I don't know of any substance you can buy at the hardware or in the Pharmacie that will do the job. You could try to work out a deal with your dentist; for X number of recementations it will cost Y. If you can guage about how many months it takes befor it falls out ( and you don't swallow it in your sleep, or worse, aspirate it in your sleep ) you could make your appointment in advance and have your guy/gal pop it off with the crown remover and do it again. Boioioioing.... SP SignatureFinally: take out the TRASHH |
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