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CaptainC - 06 Jul 2005 16:38 GMT
Hello all,

I've been working as an engineer for the past 6 years, and am seriously
considering a career change to dentistry. I just turned 30 yrs old.

Obviously I want to make sure I'm not making a horrible mistake, and
prevent getting into the program and having serious doubts/regrets a
few years down the road, after having made some big sacrifices.

I think the main question I'd like answered is what are some of the
difficulties/challenges/less likeable things associated with the job.

I know there's the whole dentist = pain issue that some people have,
but aside from that? And there's the "no work (i.e. vacation), no pay"
thing.  I'm not particularly concerned with either of these things to
tell you the truth.

OH, one last thing - does anyone know of an accredited program that's
shorter than 4 years duration?  That's the shortest program I could
find by way of some preliminary research online.

Thanks very much.
Dr Steve - 06 Jul 2005 17:37 GMT
Why do you want to change careers?

What do you think you like about dentistry?

It WILL be 4 years of dental school assuming you finish on time (some
students do not)

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Stephen [What's a Temporary?], D.D.S.
Michigan, USA
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This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only.
Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on
the advice or opinion expressed here.  Only a dentist who has examined you
in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect
your health.
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> Hello all,
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> Thanks very much.
CaptainC - 07 Jul 2005 20:03 GMT
Err, why does it matter why I want to change careers?

Mostly I want a job where I'm helping people more directly, but there
are many aspects of dentistry I believe I'd like.  A few years ago I
was contemplating studying chiropractic medicine, but I think dentistry
would actually be a better fit for me.

Would anyone be able to enlighten me as to what they perceive as some
of the main drawbacks to the profession?  Are irrational / irate
patients ever an issue?  I can't think of much that would be a big
factor in deterring me.

Thanks all.
W_B - 07 Jul 2005 20:22 GMT
>Err, why does it matter why I want to change careers?
>
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>
>Thanks all.

Drawbacks, hmmm.

OK, you go to a wedding reception and some girl approaches you
with a finger in her cheeck (looking like a hooked fish) and asks
you to look at a tooth.

Stand back, say hmmm, good thing I'm not a gynecologist....

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W_B
Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
CaptainC - 07 Jul 2005 21:20 GMT
LOL.

Then again, depends on how cute she is I suppose.
Dr Steve - 07 Jul 2005 21:46 GMT
> Err, why does it matter why I want to change careers?

Just trying to advise you properly.  The reason you wish to change careers,
could be crucial to understanding if Dentistry would solve your present
concerns or make them worse.

> Mostly I want a job where I'm helping people more directly, but there
> are many aspects of dentistry I believe I'd like.  A few years ago I
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>
> Thanks all.
CaptainC - 08 Jul 2005 15:30 GMT
If by 'present concerns' you mean the issues I have with my current
line of work, well, the two fields seem worlds apart to me.

Let me put it this way, I hate sitting at a computer all day, working
on engineering reports, relatively isolated and with minimal
interaction with others.  The biggest issue of all, for me, is that
it'd take a pretty wild imagination to believe that any of what I do
actually helps people.  I want to improve people's health or make them
more comfortable in difficult situations, and I've thought long and
hard about all the jobs in the medical & social services fields.  I
want to be able to use my hands and my mind and my compassion.

For a number of reasons I've never wanted to be a doctor or a nurse.  A
couple of those reasons are that I'm not into being wrist-deep in blood
& guts (so surgeon is out) and don't fancy being surrounded by sick
people all day. But as I say I've considered a lot of professions and
have drawn a blank, until someone mentioned dentistry to me a couple
weeks ago.

I sincerely appreciate any further assistance/advice anyone can provide.
Dr. Steve - 08 Jul 2005 16:04 GMT
>If by 'present concerns' you mean the issues I have with my current
>line of work, well, the two fields seem worlds apart to me.
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>hard about all the jobs in the medical & social services fields.  I
>want to be able to use my hands and my mind and my compassion.

That part sounds good for a dentist,

>For a number of reasons I've never wanted to be a doctor or a nurse.  A
>couple of those reasons are that I'm not into being wrist-deep in blood
>& guts (so surgeon is out)

Don't forget that we see blood, saliva and pus all day long.

> and don't fancy being surrounded by sick
>people all day. But as I say I've considered a lot of professions and
>have drawn a blank, until someone mentioned dentistry to me a couple
>weeks ago.
>
>I sincerely appreciate any further assistance/advice anyone can provide.

Are you prepared for 4+ years of training, followed by a few years of
reduced income?
..
Stephen
Troy, Michigan, USA

I am writing on a Tablet-PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my handwriting.
CaptainC - 08 Jul 2005 17:37 GMT
Actually I'm cool with blood, bone, etc.  Not fussy about the guts &
organs part (though I'd prob get used to it if I absolutely had to
become a doctor).  I worked in a biomedical engineering lab for the
first year & a half after graduating, and handled donated bones,
spines, hands and feet on almost a daily basis.

I basically hate my work so much right now (and the other 3 jobs I've
had over the past 4.5 yrs) that I'm more than ready to move into
something else, and I know it will be a huge sacrifice.  That's why I'm
trying to do all the research I can and try to avoid going into a field
that I'll later see as another thing that's not for me.

But right now I'm more excited about this possibility than anything
else I've looked at over the past few years.
I'm trying to imagine any facets of being a dentist which might
dissuade me, but haven't come up with any yet.
The Webby - 08 Jul 2005 17:41 GMT
> Actually I'm cool with blood, bone, etc.  Not fussy about the guts &
> organs part (though I'd prob get used to it if I absolutely had to
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> I'm trying to imagine any facets of being a dentist which might
> dissuade me, but haven't come up with any yet.

Have you considered a career as an educator?

Webby
W_B - 08 Jul 2005 17:56 GMT
>> I'm trying to imagine any facets of being a dentist which might
>> dissuade me, but haven't come up with any yet.
>
>Have you considered a career as an educator?
>
>Webby

Who would want to take the pay cut ?
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W_B
Take out the G'RBAGE
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The Webby - 08 Jul 2005 18:14 GMT
> >> I'm trying to imagine any facets of being a dentist which might
> >> dissuade me, but haven't come up with any yet.
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> Take out the G'RBAGE
> wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com

I didn't get the idea that *money* was his bottom line.  If it is, why
would he want to be a dentist?

Webby
W_B - 08 Jul 2005 17:16 GMT
>If by 'present concerns' you mean the issues I have with my current
>line of work, well, the two fields seem worlds apart to me.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>hard about all the jobs in the medical & social services fields.  I
>want to be able to use my hands and my mind and my compassion.

All good things.

>For a number of reasons I've never wanted to be a doctor or a nurse.  A
>couple of those reasons are that I'm not into being wrist-deep in blood
>& guts (so surgeon is out) and don't fancy being surrounded by sick
>people all day. But as I say I've considered a lot of professions and
>have drawn a blank, until someone mentioned dentistry to me a couple
>weeks ago.

As Dr. Steve said, all of what we do is not pretty.

>I sincerely appreciate any further assistance/advice anyone can provide.

It takes alot of dedication and a complete immersion to complete a dental education.
Eye hand co-ordination is a must, as well as patience doing tedious tiny treatments.
You also must like people.

The main reward of being a dentist is being one's own boss.
You will unlikely get wealthy, but you will make a good living.
Sometimes it is very hard work.

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W_B
Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
StovePipe - 09 Jul 2005 06:17 GMT
> For a number of reasons I've never wanted to be a doctor or a nurse.  A
> couple of those reasons are that I'm not into being wrist-deep in blood
> & guts (so surgeon is out) and don't fancy being surrounded by sick
> people all day. But as I say I've considered a lot of professions and
> have drawn a blank, until someone mentioned dentistry to me a couple
> weeks ago.

Have you considered BioMedical Engineering? If there is a Medical
faculty in the University near you, you might want to consider that.
Alernatively, the best way I know to know what Dentistry is all about is
to go and volunteer to be an aide in a clinique and you will see what
goes on and whether or not you would like to be in that environment
24/7. All the rest is academic and you need practical.
SP
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W_B - 11 Jul 2005 17:04 GMT
>> For a number of reasons I've never wanted to be a doctor or a nurse.  A
>> couple of those reasons are that I'm not into being wrist-deep in blood
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>Have you considered BioMedical Engineering? If there is a Medical
>faculty in the University near you, you might want to consider that.

>Alernatively, the best way I know to know what Dentistry is all about is
>to go and volunteer to be an aide in a clinique and you will see what
>goes on and whether or not you would like to be in that environment
>24/7. All the rest is academic and you need practical.
>SP

SP has the best idea.
--or--
Make friends with your dentist and hang out at the
office for a few days.
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W_B
Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
CaptainC - 12 Jul 2005 16:21 GMT
Biomedical engineering is probably an excellent suggestion, and I've
actually tried that.

Immediately after I graduated engineering I started my Master's in it.
Problem was that I was working full time for the Faculty of Engineering
as a project engineer, which was aside from my grad work.  In the
biomedical engineering lab it was just myself and my advisor, zero
funding, and me trying to my research & classes in my spare time.
Suffice it to say it was pretty far removed from actually helping
people.  I definitely need something that's more hands-on.

I think I wil try to job-shadow or volunteer or something in the
immediate future.

Thanks for all the input guys.  Keep it coming if anyone has anything
else to add.
 
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