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Licensure by Credentials

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Tony Bad - 06 Jul 2005 14:59 GMT
Was reading a newsletter from the ADA that says 47 states now allow
licensure by credentials if you have been practicing for 5+ years...I hadn't
realized the # was that high, but it is about damn time.

The only remaining holdouts are Florida, South Carolina, and Delaware...the
last one was a bit of a surprise to me. I know Florida wants to protect its
citizens from all us bad dentists who want to retire down there...and
doesn't SC still fly the confederate flag?...but Delaware?? I thought
Delaware played nice with others?

Any particular reason Delaware is a holdout?

T
carabelli - 06 Jul 2005 15:22 GMT
> Was reading a newsletter from the ADA that says 47 states now allow
> licensure by credentials if you have been practicing for 5+ years...I hadn't
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I thought Delaware was a city

Hawaii caved? - unbelievable

carabelli
W_B - 06 Jul 2005 17:26 GMT
>Was reading a newsletter from the ADA that says 47 states now allow
>licensure by credentials if you have been practicing for 5+ years...I hadn't
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>T

What did Della wear boys, what did Della wear ?
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Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 11 Jul 2005 20:16 GMT
> Was reading a newsletter from the ADA that says 47 states now allow
> licensure by credentials if you have been practicing for 5+ years...I hadn't
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> T

Didn't know this, but over the years I've heard some unusual
administrative things about Delaware that I cannot remember.  I'm pretty
sure that (for example) they never accepted the NERBS, and were about
the only NE or mid-Atlantic state that did not (IIRC, Illinois does/did).
But then, doesn't Dupont own pretty much the whole state?

Steve

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ADENTIST - 30 Sep 2005 07:44 GMT
DO YOU KNOW IF IT APPLIEES to graduates from non-US  dental schools HOLDING
A CALIFORNIA DDS LICENSE?
> Was reading a newsletter from the ADA that says 47 states now allow
> licensure by credentials if you have been practicing for 5+ years...I
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Amatus Cremona - 01 Oct 2005 13:31 GMT
>DO YOU KNOW IF IT APPLIEES to graduates from non-US  dental schools HOLDING
>A CALIFORNIA DDS LICENSE?

Does not apply

Amatus

>DO YOU KNOW IF IT APPLIEES to graduates from non-US  dental schools HOLDING
>A CALIFORNIA DDS LICENSE?
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Amatus

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Joel M. Eichen - 01 Oct 2005 13:44 GMT
>>DO YOU KNOW IF IT APPLIEES to graduates from non-US  dental schools HOLDING
>>A CALIFORNIA DDS LICENSE?
>
> Does not apply
>
> Amatus

You know, the confusion arises because they are allowing
non-US-dentists to take the California exam, but I think they are
flunking each and every one of them.

It helps the economy .. .tutors ,,, hotel stays ,,, patients ,,,,,,
exam fees.

Joel

>>DO YOU KNOW IF IT APPLIEES to graduates from non-US  dental schools HOLDING
>>A CALIFORNIA DDS LICENSE?
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Bill - 01 Oct 2005 23:59 GMT
Joel wrote in reply to Amatus:
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>>DO YOU KNOW IF IT APPLIEES to graduates from non-US  dental schools HOLDING
>>A CALIFORNIA DDS LICENSE?

> Does not apply

> Amatus
_____________________________________

You know, the confusion arises because they are allowing
non-US-dentists to take the California exam, but I think they are
flunking each and every one of them.

Joel
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Nope. There are about 5000 dentists in California without an accredited
education, but with a license to practice.

For thirty years the state gov't. has invited them in, because in the
fantasies of the bureaucrats, foreign dentists will all go to
"underserved" areas and work for less than normal fees.

Of course if anyone could make a living working for substandard fees,
those areas would have been filled up with dentists years ago.

But the state government persists in its fantasies, depite the fact
that the foreign-trained dentists who have entered California do not
flood the poorer areas of the state.

To prove that, all you need to do is open the Beverly Hills phone book
to "dentists" and see who is there.

- dentaldoc
Flap - 02 Oct 2005 00:38 GMT
dentaldoc's post:

Nope. There are about 5000 dentists in California without an accredited
education, but with a license to practice.

For thirty years the state gov't. has invited them in, because in the
fantasies of the bureaucrats, foreign dentists will all go to
"underserved" areas and work for less than normal fees.

Of course if anyone could make a living working for substandard fees,
those areas would have been filled up with dentists years ago.

But the state government persists in its fantasies, depite the fact
that the foreign-trained dentists who have entered California do not
flood the poorer areas of the state.

To prove that, all you need to do is open the Beverly Hills phone book
to "dentists" and see who is there.

- dentaldoc

Flap's Reply:

Thank leftie California Governor Jerry (Moonbeam) Brown for this
expansion of the "bench test" for foreign educated dentists (?).  He
believed that a person could work their way up in dentistry.  For
example, start as an assistant and then eventually become a dentist
with work experience.

More foolishness came with California Democrat Governor Gray Davis (who
was later recalled) with the Mexican dental school accreditation and
Guest Worker program.

Anyone know the status of that follishness?

Flap

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Alexander Vasserman DDS - 02 Oct 2005 04:05 GMT
not all foreign dentists are bad.
And of course all educational institutions should obtain accredited
status.
As far as foreign dentists going to live in the middle of the desert
while we domestic dentists live in beverly hills is complete stupidity.
I sure hope that was not the logic behind this although in CA anything
is possible. I was on the phone with an airline booking agent who did
not know the difference between a country and a continent not to
mention which continent(or country by her description) Argentina was in.
Joel M. Eichen - 02 Oct 2005 08:47 GMT
>not all foreign dentists are bad.

Many are excellent dentists ...... they know nothing about molecular
biology and biochemistry but then again .... hmmmmmmm......

>And of course all educational institutions should obtain accredited
>status.
>As far as foreign dentists going to live in the middle of the desert
>while we domestic dentists live in beverly hills is complete stupidity.

The term is, "domesticated dentists." It means dentists that do not go
our carousing four nights per week .....

Three nights? Okay. Four? No.

>I sure hope that was not the logic behind this although in CA anything
>is possible. I was on the phone with an airline booking agent who did
>not know the difference between a country and a continent not to
>mention which continent(or country by her description) Argentina was in.
 
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