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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / June 2005Pre-Dental or Bachelor of Science?
Hi, my name is Neil, and I live in Canada. I am entering my senior year, and I'm struggling with what degree should I take after high school. A pre-dental degree or a bachelor of science degree? The thing I like about pre-dental degree is that it takes shorter time to complete(2 years) than bachelor of science(which takes 4 years to complete). Let's say I am halfway completing my pre-dental degree and I decide that dentistry isn't the career for me. This might sound like a dumb question, but is dentistry the ONLY career you can do with a pre-dental degree? Because with a bachelor of science there is more variety available. My other question is whether or not is it possible to complete a bachelor of science degree in two years? If you take courses in the summer, is it possible to complete the bachelor of science degree earlier than the recommended time to complete it? No such thing as a pre-dental degree. The pre-requisite courses for dental school can be completed in two years, but all the schools want to see you working towards some sort of degree. I have not heard of anyone getting into DS with only two years of undergraduate work since about 1975. More likely to get in with 3 years of undergraduate work. But, you need to be working towards a real degree at that point.  Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen [What's a Temporary?], D.D.S. Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > Hi, my name is Neil, and I live in Canada. I am entering my senior > year, and I'm struggling with what degree should I take after high [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > summer, is it possible to complete the bachelor of science degree > earlier than the recommended time to complete it? Is this a 6 year program for straight out of high school and you end up with a DDS? carabelli Oops. My apologies, I meant pre-dentistry PROGRAM, not a degree. Here's more information about the program: http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:XEquvgnzPo4J:www.uwinnipeg.ca/index/cms-files ystem-action%3Ffile%3DPdfs/factsheets/factsheet-pre-dentistry.pdf+pre-dentistry+ program++university+of+winnipeg&hl=en > Is this a 6 year program for straight out of high school and you end up with > a DDS? Well, this is what was quoted from the link that I gave out: "Pre-Dentistry at The University of Winnipeg consists of 60 credit hours (two years), completed within two regular Fall/Winter sessions. A minimum of four more years is usually required to complete the Dentistry program, for a total of at least six years." > Oops. My apologies, I meant pre-dentistry PROGRAM, not a degree. No apologies are necessary, IMHO you're better off in the states with a four year degree program 1. A chance to round out your education, you don't want to end up being a dental dork. 2. A chance to take some business courses, if you're going to run an office you better have a clue what a small business is all about 3. It's your last chance to live it up. I wouldn't trade those last two years of college for anything - lifelong friends that I don't have to talk teeth with. Others will add more. But there are advantages too, 2 extra years of wages vs 2 more years of incurring debt. Need to go do some yard work - carabelli > No apologies are necessary, IMHO you're better off in the states with a four > year degree program I will apply to the States if I do not get admission here in Canada. I wouldn't want to pay more money in the States since I will be studying as an international student. > 2. A chance to take some business courses, if you're going to run an office > you better have a clue what a small business is all about I have heard that in Dental School they teach you how to run your own business(around the last two years of Dental School). I'm not sure if this is really true though. :P ...................... >> No apologies are necessary, IMHO you're better off in the states with a >> four [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > wouldn't want to pay more money in the States since I will be studying > as an international student. I agree that the sooner you get done, the less tuition you pay and less tiem you spend not earning income. >> 2. A chance to take some business courses, if you're going to run an >> office [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > business(around the last two years of Dental School). I'm not sure if > this is really true though. :P Not when we went through DS. They pretended to give us about four 2 hour lectures on the topic, but the presenters were really just "Dental Consultatants" trying to convince us to hire them at $40K-$80K a year. >>I agree that the sooner you get done, the less tuition you pay and less tiem >>you spend not earning income. Last year, my cousin (who is 19 years old at the moment, did not too well in his first year at the University of British Columbia(probably because he took 7 courses in the first semester), and he failed his first year. And then he discovered a university around the Carribean area, and he got accepted into dental school over there. He didn't even need to do his undergraduate or go for an interview! He will be a dentist when he is 23 or 24 years old (that is if he does well over there). So, he will probably get extra years of wages than people here in the States and Canada who have just finished dental school. >>Not when we went through DS. They pretended to give us about four 2 hour >>lectures on the topic, but the presenters were really just "Dental >>Consultatants" trying to convince us to hire them at $40K-$80K a year. Oh, bummer. Did you take any business/entrepreneurial courses when you were in University, Dr Steve? >And then he discovered a university around the Carribean >area, and he got accepted into dental school over there. He didn't even >need to do his undergraduate or go for an interview! He will be a >dentist when he is 23 or 24 years old (that is if he does well over >there). So, he will probably get extra years of wages than people here >in the States and Canada who have just finished dental school. Is he going to practice in the Carribean ? -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >>>I agree that the sooner you get done, the less tuition you pay and less tiem >>>you spend not earning income. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >there). So, he will probably get extra years of wages than people here >in the States and Canada who have just finished dental school. But will any US States or Canadian Provinces accept his degree and license? >>>Not when we went through DS. They pretended to give us about four 2 hour >>>lectures on the topic, but the presenters were really just "Dental >>>Consultatants" trying to convince us to hire them at $40K-$80K a year. > >Oh, bummer. Did you take any business/entrepreneurial courses when you >were in University, Dr Steve? .. Stephen Troy, Michigan, USA I am writing on a Tablet-PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my handwriting. > Is he going to practice in the Carribean ? I'm pretty sure he would rather practice in Canada or the States. > But will any US States or Canadian Provinces accept his degree and > license? Once he completes his degree in the Carribean, I think he needs to complete some sort of exam to start practicing in America or Canada. >> Is he going to practice in the Carribean ? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Once he completes his degree in the Carribean, I think he needs to >complete some sort of exam to start practicing in America or Canada. It's more that an exam from what we hear. Could be 2+ more years of training. It's best to get educated where you intend to practice. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >>>I agree that the sooner you get done, the less tuition you pay and less tiem >>>you spend not earning income. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >Oh, bummer. Did you take any business/entrepreneurial courses when you >were in University, Dr Steve? Nope. I was too focused on my science and math. When I got accepted into DS I had enough science. math credits for a dual BS degree in Biology And Chemistry. But, I would have had to take all liberal arts courses for the 4th year of undergrad. Glad I got lo skip that last year. I would have been bored to death. .. Stephen Troy, Michigan, USA I am writing on a Tablet-PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my handwriting. > I have heard that in Dental School they teach you how to run your own > business(around the last two years of Dental School). I'm not sure if > this is really true though. :P Sure they do. Just like they teach the best endo, restorative, and injection techniques. You get enough to get a license and *practice*. ;-) Fawks >Is this a 6 year program for straight out of high school and you end up with >a DDS? > >carabelli You probably have to sign up for the NHS for an equal period of time. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com After my daughter was accepted to the reserve admissions program at UMKC, she was told what courses she still needed to finish before final admission and enrolling. She told them that she was going to finish her BS in Biology, and they said, "Why?" "You don't need it." She has 3 years of college with a 3.95 GPA (while playing college softball) and interviews well. She needs to get a 17 on the DAT this summer. Fawks More > likely to get in with 3 years of undergraduate work. But, you need to be > working towards a real degree at that point. Get the actual degree requirements and actual course schedules from some undergrad school you are considering, along with the entrance requirements for a dental school you are considering. Then write a M-F 8-5 schedule for 2 to 4 years of undergrad work. It is a lot of work, but the best way to get a detailed view of what has to happen. Have your high school adviser help you with it. Do a similar exercise for an Optometry degree or PhD in Biology or whatever might interest you. By comparing the different schedules, you will have a good idea of your options and decision points.
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