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NTI device "comfortable" to wear at night?

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me@privacy.net - 27 Jun 2005 18:44 GMT
I'm thinking on getting an NT device to keep from
clenching my teeth while sleeping

Having never worn one before... I was curious at just
how comfortable they are to wear at night?

Anyone real life experience out there?
Dr Steve - 27 Jun 2005 18:58 GMT
I have made hundreds of them and wear one every night myself.

The only patients who complain and don't wear them are the patients who
don't follow directions for the first few days and wait until bed-time to
put it in for the first time.  You have to wear it for a few hours prior to
bed-time during the first couple of weeks to get used to how it feels.

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Michigan, USA
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This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only.
Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on
the advice or opinion expressed here.  Only a dentist who has examined you
in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect
your health.
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> I'm thinking on getting an NT device to keep from
> clenching my teeth while sleeping
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>
> Anyone real life experience out there?
me@privacy.net - 27 Jun 2005 19:48 GMT
>The only patients who complain and don't wear them are the patients who
>don't follow directions for the first few days and wait until bed-time to
>put it in for the first time.  You have to wear it for a few hours prior to
>bed-time during the first couple of weeks to get used to how it feels.

Ahh..... I see

So after a few weeks of using it "early".....can I then
just insert it only at bedtime?
Dr Steve - 27 Jun 2005 19:50 GMT
Unless you have a migraine problem.  Then, you would need day-time use for
the first few weeks (perhaps longer).

I tell my "non-Migraine" patients to wear the NTI as close to 24 hours a day
for the first few days, as possible.  After that, they should put it in
right after dinner for a week.  Then, they will be fine putting it in a
bed-time.  They are told to wear it while traveling, working on the PC,
watching movies, etc.

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Michigan, USA
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This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only.
Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on
the advice or opinion expressed here.  Only a dentist who has examined you
in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect
your health.
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> >The only patients who complain and don't wear them are the patients who
>>don't follow directions for the first few days and wait until bed-time to
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> So after a few weeks of using it "early".....can I then
> just insert it only at bedtime?
me@privacy.net - 27 Jun 2005 20:16 GMT
>Then, they will be fine putting it in a
>bed-time.  They are told to wear it while traveling, working on the PC,
>watching movies, etc.

why?

I thought it was sleep time use only?   To keep from
clenching teeth during sleep?
Dr Steve - 27 Jun 2005 20:36 GMT
Many people will clench forcibly during times of intense concentration, or
when being physically idle.

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Michigan, USA
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Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on
the advice or opinion expressed here.  Only a dentist who has examined you
in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect
your health.
......................

> >Then, they will be fine putting it in a
>>bed-time.  They are told to wear it while traveling, working on the PC,
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> I thought it was sleep time use only?   To keep from
> clenching teeth during sleep?
me@privacy.net - 27 Jun 2005 22:29 GMT
>Many people will clench forcibly during times of intense concentration, or
>when being physically idle.

Interesting!

Didn't now that

Thanks so much!
Dartos - 24 Jun 2009 20:22 GMT
> Many people will clench forcibly during times of intense concentration, or
> when being physically idle.

And while lifting/strenuous exercise, noise/vibrations, and assembly
line work.

:-)
Steve
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 24 Jun 2009 20:25 GMT
>> Many people will clench forcibly during times of intense
>> concentration, or when being physically idle.
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> :-)
> Steve

Whenever I wake up....before I put on my make-up...

Steve

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Dartos - 24 Jun 2009 20:54 GMT
Sorry, ended up responding to an old post that my computer
downloaded from 2005.

Still true though <g>,
D

>>> Many people will clench forcibly during times of intense
>>> concentration, or when being physically idle.
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>
> Steve
Amatus Cremona - 24 Jun 2009 22:47 GMT
We liked it!

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Amatus

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> Sorry, ended up responding to an old post that my computer
> downloaded from 2005.
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>>
>> Steve
jerm - 25 Jun 2009 21:06 GMT
> We liked it!
>
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>
> >> Steve

I couldn't sleep without it. best 500 bucks i ever spent.
Dartos - 29 Jun 2009 14:13 GMT
> I couldn't sleep without it. best 500 bucks i ever spent.

We all thought it could help.

Best wishes,
D
me@privacy.net - 27 Jun 2005 20:17 GMT
My dentist will charge me $300 to make an NTI device

Is there any kind of "off the shelf" model I can buy
much cheaper just to "try out" the idea first before
committing to a custom made one?
W_B - 27 Jun 2005 20:27 GMT
>My dentist will charge me $300 to make an NTI device
>
>Is there any kind of "off the shelf" model I can buy
>much cheaper just to "try out" the idea first before
>committing to a custom made one?

Nope, nothing available OTC works.

You need a custom made device.
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me@privacy.net - 27 Jun 2005 22:32 GMT
>>My dentist will charge me $300 to make an NTI device
>>
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>
>You need a custom made device.

OK

Advice is taken!   Thanks all

I will call my dentist and make the appointment as we
speak

I've got quite a bit of money in my teeth.   Front
veneers, rear crowns, etc

So I think they NTI device will be an "investment".

I'm also investing in an Oral B toothbrush

I've not been taking as good of care of my teeth as I
should.  I want change that by doing those two things
above.... and UISNG them

Good idea?
carabelli - 27 Jun 2005 20:31 GMT
> My dentist will charge me $300 to make an NTI device
>
> Is there any kind of "off the shelf" model I can buy
> much cheaper just to "try out" the idea first before
> committing to a custom made one?

Nope, sorry,  It would be more prudent to take a 20 out of your billfold and
light it on fire rather than wasting money on an OTC one.

carabelli
Dr Steve - 27 Jun 2005 20:37 GMT
nope

BTW, I charge $450

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This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only.
Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on
the advice or opinion expressed here.  Only a dentist who has examined you
in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect
your health.
......................

> My dentist will charge me $300 to make an NTI device
>
> Is there any kind of "off the shelf" model I can buy
> much cheaper just to "try out" the idea first before
> committing to a custom made one?
Steven Fawks - 27 Jun 2005 21:14 GMT
> My dentist will charge me $300 to make an NTI device
>
> Is there any kind of "off the shelf" model I can buy
> much cheaper just to "try out" the idea first before
> committing to a custom made one?

No.  Nothing else compares favorably.  $300 is reasonable.

Fawks
W_B - 27 Jun 2005 20:25 GMT
>>The only patients who complain and don't wear them are the patients who
>>don't follow directions for the first few days and wait until bed-time to
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>So after a few weeks of using it "early".....can I then
>just insert it only at bedtime?

Yep.
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Steven Fawks - 27 Jun 2005 21:09 GMT
Similar experiences here in Missouri (and I also wear one).

Fawks

> I have made hundreds of them and wear one every night myself.
>
> The only patients who complain and don't wear them are the patients who
> don't follow directions for the first few days and wait until bed-time to
> put it in for the first time.  You have to wear it for a few hours prior to
> bed-time during the first couple of weeks to get used to how it feels.
BlackRose - 29 Jun 2005 06:45 GMT
  I've had mine for nearly 4 years now.  It's very comfortable.  I forget I
am even wearing it.

Lynn

> I'm thinking on getting an NT device to keep from
> clenching my teeth while sleeping
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Anyone real life experience out there?
me@privacy.net - 30 Jun 2005 01:01 GMT
>  I've had mine for nearly 4 years now.  It's very comfortable.  I forget I
>am even wearing it.

Ok thanks Lynn.....

Do you wear yours only for sleep?  Or during other
times of the day?

I made an appt with my dentist to go ahead and do this.
Appt isn't for 3 weeks tho.
andrew - 01 Jul 2005 23:32 GMT
> I'm thinking on getting an NT device to keep from
> clenching my teeth while sleeping
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Anyone real life experience out there?

I don't seem to need a day time one. My night one wore out so I usually wear
my day one at night. I find it very comfortable and reassuring to put in,
but it is still a relief to take it out in the mornings. I value it highly
and would be most upset if I lost it. It did take a bit of getting used to.
If the cause of your clenching is simply stress, you'd likely be better to
remove the stress, but that is easier said than done.
pellmellwillynilly@hotmail.com - 02 Jul 2005 05:40 GMT
> I'm thinking on getting an NT device to keep from
> clenching my teeth while sleeping
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Anyone real life experience out there?

I wasn't able to sleep with the "beak" because it kept my lips from
closing. OTOH, I wasn't given the instructions on getting used to the
device (which I got from its inventor). Instead, I had a daytime NTI
that I wore as instructed and with which I had no trouble. (It has no
beak.) Because I understood the inhibiting concept, I wanted to have an
anterior device like the NTI. My solution was to file most of the beak
off. Now it's comfortable, and between it and (amazing) adjustments by
my current chiropractor, I seem to keep the TMJD at bay.
Steven Fawks - 02 Jul 2005 13:36 GMT
Lip closure can be an issue with some patients.  The idea with the
'beak' is to make it impossible to get teeth beyond the appliance
to get posterior teeth in contact.

Most people don't go to extremes (during sleep, of course) and I find
that the 'beak' is often unnecessary.  Trouble is, no one knows which
patient might be the one that will need it.

Communication and instructions though, are very necessary.  If I leave
the 'beak' on, I explain why it's there.  I also tell the patient that
if we find they are not trying to get around the NTI, I may be able to
shorten the device at a future appointment.

JME,
Fawks

> I wasn't able to sleep with the "beak" because it kept my lips from
> closing. OTOH, I wasn't given the instructions on getting used to the
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> off. Now it's comfortable, and between it and (amazing) adjustments by
> my current chiropractor, I seem to keep the TMJD at bay.
pellmellwillynilly@hotmail.com - 02 Jul 2005 19:01 GMT
If a patient can't sleep without lips closed, and "lip closure can be
an issue with some patients," why would you tell a patient "(Bullsh**)"
(those are your parentheses) when they say they can't sleep with the
unaltered NTI in?, Yes,
"the animal" doesn't want to be caged, but the instructions that came
with my NTI stress going to sleep, getting up and sleeping the same
number of hours every night. I fixed the NTI so I could follow the
instructions.

It would still be nice to find a competent NTI maker in Chicagoland,
but for now, what I have is doing the job.

> Lip closure can be an issue with some patients.  The idea with the
> 'beak' is to make it impossible to get teeth beyond the appliance
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> > off. Now it's comfortable, and between it and (amazing) adjustments by
> > my current chiropractor, I seem to keep the TMJD at bay.
 
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