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Chris gets another tooth ache
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Stormin Mormon - 26 Jun 2005 23:53 GMT I get one, now and again. This current one is lower right, one of the pointy ones front of the molars. But not yet to the flat ones. (Sure that is a lot of useful information!).
I've got two pointy teeth which both have silver fillings. And a bunch of other silver fillings, and a couple white fillings.
Some background. I'm 40 years old, male, never married. Live in the US, no health insurance. I missed the twice a year cleanings for a few years, and came back with a tooth ache. Only to find out that I'd got about 10 cavities in the meantime.
I thought they were all up to date, and no more tooth aches for awhile. Wrong! This one starte to act up on Thursday. Cold sensetive, and seems to hurt more in the presence of sugar. Topical benzocaine helps, a little. Been dabbing on Kanka, I like the waxy base that seems to stay on a little longer. Oil of cloves didn't do much this time. Worked nicely with my bad wisdom tooth a couple years ago.
Been popping an assortment of pills. Turns out if I take two pills every two hours, I do fairly well. Been trying to rotate. Ibuprophen, naproxyn, acetaminophen, acet with hydrocodone. See what seems to work. Yep, acetaminophen and ibuprophen combined are hell on the liver and kidneys.
Got a call in to the dentist, oughta be in the chair some time tomorrow or Tuesday. Any hints how to make the time more bearable?
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Steven Bornfeld - 27 Jun 2005 01:00 GMT > I get one, now and again. This current one is lower right, one of the pointy > ones front of the molars. But not yet to the flat ones. (Sure that is a lot [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Got a call in to the dentist, oughta be in the chair some time tomorrow or > Tuesday. Any hints how to make the time more bearable? I think rotating the ibuprofen (up to 600 mg) every 3 hrs with 600 of acetaminophen is a good regimen. A day or two won't kill your liver, and hopefully your stomach will hold up. Acetaminophen is more of a liver problem, but mostly with alcohol, and since you're Stormin' Mormon, I'm assuming that won't be a problem.
Feel better, Steve
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Steven Bornfeld - 27 Jun 2005 01:02 GMT >> I get one, now and again. This current one is lower right, one of the >> pointy [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > I think rotating the ibuprofen (up to 600 mg) every 3 hrs with 600 > of acetaminophen is a good regimen. Just to be clear: up to 600 of ibuprofen, followed 3 hrs later by acetaminophen (NOT ibuprofen every 3 hrs.)
Steve A day or two won't kill your liver,
> and hopefully your stomach will hold up. > Acetaminophen is more of a liver problem, but mostly with alcohol, > and since you're Stormin' Mormon, I'm assuming that won't be a problem. > > Feel better, > Steve
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Stormin Mormon - 27 Jun 2005 11:58 GMT You mean it's not four pills every half hour? (wink, wink). I sure try to take as few medicines as possible.
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Just to be clear: up to 600 of ibuprofen, followed 3 hrs later by acetaminophen (NOT ibuprofen every 3 hrs.)
Steve A day or two won't kill your liver,
> and hopefully your stomach will hold up. kureforcrohns@sbcglobal.net - 27 Jun 2005 01:23 GMT It isn't always easy finding the right words for problems we wish we didn't have. Steve put it well and I will add good luck and may the cavities all be small. In the meantime a good sweet tasting snack from the Indian restaurant that possibly everyone will like.
Some nonfat plain yoghurt Unsweetened fruit juice 1 very ripe mango peeled blended in a blender. Maybe a little honey added, if desired?
Tastes really good. Drink with a straw.
Gail
Stormin Mormon - 27 Jun 2005 12:06 GMT Ah, that sounds like a healthy drink.
Like my dentist said when I was a kid, cavities never go away on thier own.
Who was it on Star Trek..... "May your tribbles be little ones"
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It isn't always easy finding the right words for problems we wish we didn't have. Steve put it well and I will add good luck and may the cavities all be small. In the meantime a good sweet tasting snack from the Indian restaurant that possibly everyone will like.
Some nonfat plain yoghurt Unsweetened fruit juice 1 very ripe mango peeled blended in a blender. Maybe a little honey added, if desired?
Tastes really good. Drink with a straw.
Gail
carabelli - 27 Jun 2005 01:37 GMT "Steven Bornfeld" <dentaltwinnonsense@earthlink.net> wrote...........................
> I think rotating the ibuprofen (up to 600 mg) every 3 hrs with 600 of > acetaminophen is a good regimen. A day or two won't kill your liver, and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Feel better, > Steve What he said!
carabelli
Stormin Mormon - 27 Jun 2005 12:06 GMT And, I do thank you also. Fortunately, I managed to make it through the night without resorting to 911, large quanties of pills (well, large is a relative term) or vise grips pliers. Sure makes me appreciate modern dentistry, and modern pain relief.
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"Steven Bornfeld" <dentaltwinnonsense@earthlink.net> wrote...........................
> I think rotating the ibuprofen (up to 600 mg) every 3 hrs with 600 of > acetaminophen is a good regimen. > > Feel better, > Steve What he said!
carabelli
Stormin Mormon - 27 Jun 2005 11:58 GMT Dear Dr. Bornfeld, It's been an interesting evening. Woke up about 1:30 to take a couple more pills, and sit and wait for them to start working. A couple years ago, I asked a friend of mine what are the advice to stay healthy. This fellow has since moved, but at the time he was studying to be a nephrologist (kidney specialist). His reply was 1) Medically, smoking is the root of all evil. and 2) get some exercise, even if it's just a walk around the block. You're right, as a LDS / Mormon I don't drink alcohol. My personal policy is that alcohol is OK in cough syrup or cough and cold medicine. Where it's used as a solvent. The LDS policy is that alcohol is used for washing of the body. Listerene, hand sanitizer, scrubbing. That kind of thing. Anyhow, got to call my dentist in a couple minutes. He won't be there at 7 AM on Monday, but I can leave a message on the machine. Thank you for the good wishes.
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I think rotating the ibuprofen (up to 600 mg) every 3 hrs with 600 of acetaminophen is a good regimen. A day or two won't kill your liver, and hopefully your stomach will hold up. Acetaminophen is more of a liver problem, but mostly with alcohol, and since you're Stormin' Mormon, I'm assuming that won't be a problem.
Feel better, Steve
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clifffreeling@yahoo.com - 29 Jun 2005 16:50 GMT > Dear Dr. Bornfeld, > It's been an interesting evening. Woke up about 1:30 to take a couple > more pills, and sit and wait for them to start working. Maybe you should learn to take some of the pain, and ease off with the pills. Sounds like you have lots of tooth problems. If it were me, I'd seriously consider getting rid of all the problem ones, and put some falsies in their place.
> A couple years ago, I asked a friend of mine what are the advice to stay > healthy. This fellow has since moved, but at the time he was studying to be > a nephrologist (kidney specialist). His reply was 1) Medically, smoking is > the root of all evil. and 2) get some exercise, even if it's just a walk > around the block. Good advice.
> You're right, as a LDS / Mormon I don't drink alcohol. My personal > policy is that alcohol is OK in cough syrup or cough and cold medicine. IMO, alcohol is poison to the body. I never touch the junk, and there are very few 20-year-olds who could keep up with me physically.
-- Cliff
Stormin Mormon - 29 Jun 2005 01:53 GMT Newsflash!
Went to the general practice dentist yesterday. He says that there is definitly some nerve invovement, and reccomended a root canal. I wasn't all that happy with the idea. But, I was having to wake up every couple hours to pop pills, and that gets exhausting in a hurry.
I did make the call this AM. The ectodontist had an opening in the AM, and so I took it. He used a couple different shots of liquid anaesthetic. Which didn't seem to numb the nerves actually in my tooth. So, a drop of liquid in the hole he'd just made. Which didn't seem to help. A couple more syringes of caine (into the root) and by this time he's muttering a tiny little bit about how that tooth just doesn't want to numb. And some more syringes of caine, and me flinching several more times.
Anyhow, it was about two hours. Had me pop four advil while right in the chair, to get me down the road. And then a scrip for Vicodin generic.
The pharmacy had only Malanckro or whatever it was the useless white ones. After asking them nicely, they made a call and got me set up with some Qualitest, which actually do work. Nice of them to put forth the effort, and nice of the dentist office to approve it. (Didn't cost the dentist office anything to say yes).
Now, after two service calls, it's time to go to bed and sleep the sleep of the dead. I hope to see you all in the morning. And then got to get an appointment for a real filling in that tooth in place of the temp filling plaster stuff.
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I get one, now and again. This current one is lower right, one of the pointy ones front of the molars. But not yet to the flat ones. (Sure that is a lot of useful information!).
I've got two pointy teeth which both have silver fillings. And a bunch of other silver fillings, and a couple white fillings.
Some background. I'm 40 years old, male, never married. Live in the US, no health insurance. I missed the twice a year cleanings for a few years, and came back with a tooth ache. Only to find out that I'd got about 10 cavities in the meantime.
I thought they were all up to date, and no more tooth aches for awhile. Wrong! This one starte to act up on Thursday. Cold sensetive, and seems to hurt more in the presence of sugar. Topical benzocaine helps, a little. Been dabbing on Kanka, I like the waxy base that seems to stay on a little longer. Oil of cloves didn't do much this time. Worked nicely with my bad wisdom tooth a couple years ago.
Been popping an assortment of pills. Turns out if I take two pills every two hours, I do fairly well. Been trying to rotate. Ibuprophen, naproxyn, acetaminophen, acet with hydrocodone. See what seems to work. Yep, acetaminophen and ibuprophen combined are hell on the liver and kidneys.
Got a call in to the dentist, oughta be in the chair some time tomorrow or Tuesday. Any hints how to make the time more bearable?
 Signature Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org www.mormons.com
clifffreeling@yahoo.com - 29 Jun 2005 16:43 GMT > I get one, now and again. This current one is lower right, one of the pointy > ones front of the molars. But not yet to the flat ones. (Sure that is a lot [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > came back with a tooth ache. Only to find out that I'd got about 10 cavities > in the meantime. Do you ever brush your teeth?
-- Cliff
Matt - 05 Jul 2005 03:59 GMT > I get one, now and again. This current one is lower right, one of the pointy > ones front of the molars. But not yet to the flat ones. (Sure that is a lot > of useful information!). http://www.ada.org/public/topics/permanent_number.asp
Stormin Mormon - 05 Jul 2005 15:32 GMT I do thank you. I asked at the dentist, and they gave me a chart, but it was nearly useless compared to this one.
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Stormin Mormon wrote:
> I get one, now and again. This current one is lower right, one of the pointy > ones front of the molars. But not yet to the flat ones. (Sure that is a lot > of useful information!). http://www.ada.org/public/topics/permanent_number.asp
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