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Dental school: What undergrad dgegree?
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me@privacy.net - 22 Jun 2005 21:08 GMT Does it really matter what undergrad degree one has if they think they may want to become a dentist?
Example.... could a person have an undergrad degree in say engineering or computer science or accounting and still become a dentist?
jwn dds - 22 Jun 2005 21:13 GMT Sure... as long as you have all the pre-requisite courses.
> Does it really matter what undergrad degree one has if > they think they may want to become a dentist? > > Example.... could a person have an undergrad degree in > say engineering or computer science or accounting and > still become a dentist? W_B - 22 Jun 2005 21:31 GMT >Does it really matter what undergrad degree one has if >they think they may want to become a dentist? > >Example.... could a person have an undergrad degree in >say engineering or computer science or accounting and >still become a dentist? Yes, if you have the dental school pre-requisites (sp?) to apply. Grades count. --
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Dr Steve - 22 Jun 2005 21:42 GMT What's an undergraduate degree?
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> Does it really matter what undergrad degree one has if > they think they may want to become a dentist? > > Example.... could a person have an undergrad degree in > say engineering or computer science or accounting and > still become a dentist? W_B - 22 Jun 2005 21:52 GMT >What's an undergraduate degree? Oh yeah, forgot I don't have one of those either. --
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me@privacy.net - 22 Jun 2005 23:05 GMT >>What's an undergraduate degree?
>Oh yeah, forgot I don't have one of those either. Serious?
You don't need an undergrad degree?
Dr. Steve - 23 Jun 2005 03:05 GMT >>>What's an undergraduate degree? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >You don't need an undergrad degree? Nope.
I had a "nice" GPA at the end of 3 years with almost zero liberal arts classes. .. Stephen Troy, Michigan, USA
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me@privacy.net - 23 Jun 2005 03:57 GMT > I had a "nice" GPA at the end of 3 years with almost zero liberal >arts classes. so where did u go to dental school at?
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> > >> I had a "nice" GPA at the end of 3 years with almost zero liberal >>arts classes. > > so where did u go to dental school at? W_B - 23 Jun 2005 16:19 GMT >>>>What's an undergraduate degree? >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >I am writing on a Tablet-PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my handwriting. Same here H/C science. --
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Dr. G. - 23 Jun 2005 07:06 GMT > >>What's an undergraduate degree? > > Serious? > > You don't need an undergrad degree? I didn't, BUT it was 1964. I don't know if things have changed. I would think the absence of a bachelor's degree might be a negative when the majority your competitors have one. Very good grades might possibly counter the lack of a degree. I may be able to find out the policy at UCSF if you'd like.
My 2 cents!
Dr. G., FACP
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Steven Fawks - 23 Jun 2005 17:54 GMT At UMKC, if you have all of the required courses, an excellent GPA, do well on the DAT, and interview well, the BS doesn't count for much.
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> I didn't, BUT it was 1964. I don't know if things have changed. I would > think the absence of a bachelor's degree might be a negative when the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Dr. G., FACP me@privacy.net - 23 Jun 2005 18:26 GMT >At UMKC, if you have all of the required courses, an excellent GPA, do >well on the DAT, and interview well, the BS doesn't count for much. Really?
So is it in best interest to get and undergrad degree where the only goals is to get a high GPA then?
IOW... take something easy?
Steven Fawks - 23 Jun 2005 19:18 GMT Note "required courses". This includes physics, anatomy, organic chemistry, microbiology, etc., etc. Nothing 'easy' about it. There isn't much room for 'fluff' courses to pad the GPA.
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>>At UMKC, if you have all of the required courses, an excellent GPA, do >>well on the DAT, and interview well, the BS doesn't count for much. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > IOW... take something easy? W_B - 24 Jun 2005 15:44 GMT Sure there are, fluff like embryology, histology, comparative anatomy....
>Note "required courses". This includes physics, anatomy, organic >chemistry, microbiology, etc., etc. Nothing 'easy' about it. There [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> >> IOW... take something easy? --
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W_B - 24 Jun 2005 15:42 GMT >>At UMKC, if you have all of the required courses, an excellent GPA, do >>well on the DAT, and interview well, the BS doesn't count for much. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >IOW... take something easy? Yeah, something easy like organic chemistry. --
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W_B - 24 Jun 2005 15:41 GMT The BS only counts if it is a mile wide and a mile deep.
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>At UMKC, if you have all of the required courses, an excellent GPA, do >well on the DAT, and interview well, the BS doesn't count for much. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> >> Dr. G., FACP --
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W_B - 23 Jun 2005 15:53 GMT >>>What's an undergraduate degree? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >You don't need an undergrad degree? Back then, no; now days am not sure. Keep in mind that I had all the pre requisites and very good grades; just applied to see if I would get in and did. --
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CWatters - 23 Jun 2005 08:13 GMT > Does it really matter what undergrad degree one has if > they think they may want to become a dentist? Entry qualifications for Cardiff (Wales, UK). Just need the equivalent of A-Levels not a degree... Scroll down.. http://coursefinder.cardiff.ac.uk/course_detail.shtml?course_id=15
Tom - 23 Jun 2005 20:48 GMT >> Does it really matter what undergrad degree one has if >> they think they may want to become a dentist? > >Entry qualifications for Cardiff (Wales, UK). Just need the equivalent of >A-Levels not a degree... It's different in the UK. The course itself includes an undergrad degree. It's the same with Law degrees. In the US they do a degree first and then study to become a lawyer, while in the UK our students study Law at undergrad level from the start.
Tom
barkerrd - 29 Jun 2005 17:32 GMT This really depends on the school(s) to which you are considering application. Instead of asking others, make an appointment with someone in the dental school's admissions office. Ask that person what that school is looking for in an applicant. In other words get involved with the school to which you hope to go rather than guessing what is on their mind. Three major attributes needed by an applicant to dental school: 1. Academic ability - especially in the sciences 2. Manual dexterity 3. The proper psychological makeup. This will only be discovered by spending a lot of time in a dentist's office observing the good and bad aspects of dentistry. See how your personality matches up with needed by a successful dentist.
Most applicants know themselves well enough regarding #1 and #2 above. Very few have considered #3.
A Former Dean Of Dental Admissions
>> Does it really matter what undergrad degree one has if >> they think they may want to become a dentist? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Scroll down.. > http://coursefinder.cardiff.ac.uk/course_detail.shtml?course_id=15 barkerrd - 29 Jun 2005 17:37 GMT This really depends on the school(s) to which you are considering application. Instead of asking others, make an appointment with someone in the dental school's admissions office. Ask that person what that school is looking for in an applicant. In other words get involved with the school to which you hope to go rather than guessing what is on their mind. Three major attributes needed by an applicant to dental school: 1. Academic ability - especially in the sciences 2. Manual dexterity 3. The proper psychological makeup. This will only be discovered by spending a lot of time in a dentist's office observing the good and bad aspects of dentistry. See how your personality matches up with needed by a successful dentist.
Most applicants know themselves well enough regarding #1 and #2 above. Very few have considered #3.
A Former Dean Of Dental Admissions
>> Does it really matter what undergrad degree one has if >> they think they may want to become a dentist? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Scroll down.. > http://coursefinder.cardiff.ac.uk/course_detail.shtml?course_id=15 barkerrd - 29 Jun 2005 17:37 GMT This really depends on the school(s) to which you are considering application. Instead of asking others, make an appointment with someone in the dental school's admissions office. Ask that person what that school is looking for in an applicant. In other words get involved with the school to which you hope to go rather than guessing what is on their mind. Three major attributes needed by an applicant to dental school: 1. Academic ability - especially in the sciences 2. Manual dexterity 3. The proper psychological makeup. This will only be discovered by spending a lot of time in a dentist's office observing the good and bad aspects of dentistry. See how your personality matches up with needed by a successful dentist.
Most applicants know themselves well enough regarding #1 and #2 above. Very few have considered #3.
A Former Dean Of Dental Admissions
>> Does it really matter what undergrad degree one has if >> they think they may want to become a dentist? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Scroll down.. > http://coursefinder.cardiff.ac.uk/course_detail.shtml?course_id=15 barkerrd - 29 Jun 2005 17:37 GMT This really depends on the school(s) to which you are considering application. Instead of asking others, make an appointment with someone in the dental school's admissions office. Ask that person what that school is looking for in an applicant. In other words get involved with the school to which you hope to go rather than guessing what is on their mind. Three major attributes needed by an applicant to dental school: 1. Academic ability - especially in the sciences 2. Manual dexterity 3. The proper psychological makeup. This will only be discovered by spending a lot of time in a dentist's office observing the good and bad aspects of dentistry. See how your personality matches up with needed by a successful dentist.
Most applicants know themselves well enough regarding #1 and #2 above. Very few have considered #3.
A Former Dean Of Dental Admissions
>> Does it really matter what undergrad degree one has if >> they think they may want to become a dentist? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Scroll down.. > http://coursefinder.cardiff.ac.uk/course_detail.shtml?course_id=15 barkerrd - 29 Jun 2005 17:38 GMT This really depends on the school(s) to which you are considering application. Instead of asking others, make an appointment with someone in the dental school's admissions office. Ask that person what that school is looking for in an applicant. In other words get involved with the school to which you hope to go rather than guessing what is on their mind. Three major attributes needed by an applicant to dental school: 1. Academic ability - especially in the sciences 2. Manual dexterity 3. The proper psychological makeup. This will only be discovered by spending a lot of time in a dentist's office observing the good and bad aspects of dentistry. See how your personality matches up with needed by a successful dentist.
Most applicants know themselves well enough regarding #1 and #2 above. Very few have considered #3.
A Former Dean Of Dental Admissions
>> Does it really matter what undergrad degree one has if >> they think they may want to become a dentist? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Scroll down.. > http://coursefinder.cardiff.ac.uk/course_detail.shtml?course_id=15 jwn dds - 23 Jun 2005 15:13 GMT For my school it was based on:
1. Pre-requisite courses successfully completed over 2 or more years. Two of those years had to be a full course-load (30 credits per year). 2. High GPA. I had 3.96 out of 4 but I think others got in with 3.7 or so. 3. High marks on DAT exam 4. Interview
> Does it really matter what undergrad degree one has if > they think they may want to become a dentist? > > Example.... could a person have an undergrad degree in > say engineering or computer science or accounting and > still become a dentist? Jeff - 25 Jun 2005 02:17 GMT Hi! I already have my B.S. degree in math and computers, and I'm going back to school, taking a bunch of undergrad classes in biology and chemistry so I can go to dental school. Since I'm working full time, it will take me four semesters, or two years to take these classes before I can start dental school. Oh yeah, and I just finished a summer term of Psychology, as some schools like to see that on the transcript too. (All the schools list the prerequisite classes you need right on their websites.)
As for having an undergrad degree, some of the schools I've looked at say on their websites that technically you don't need one, just the prereqs, but they say it's rare they accept somebody without an undergrad degree. Besides, if I didn't have a B.S. degree, I'd hate to have it come down to me and one other person with equal credentials except the other person has a B.S. degree and they end up choosing that person over me because of that. I figure do everything I can to get into dental school. :-D
Jeff
> Does it really matter what undergrad degree one has if > they think they may want to become a dentist? > > Example.... could a person have an undergrad degree in > say engineering or computer science or accounting and > still become a dentist? me@privacy.net - 25 Jun 2005 16:31 GMT >Hi! I already have my B.S. degree in math and computers, and I'm going >back to school, taking a bunch of undergrad classes in biology and >chemistry so I can go to dental school. Hi Jeff... nice to meet you!!
That's very cool that you are going back to school!
I'm especially intrigued that you have a math/computer science degree!
Mind if I ask what you are doing for a living now? I'm assuming you works with computers such as in IT field?
If yes on the IT...why do you feel the need to leave IT and go for dentistry?
me@privacy.net - 25 Jun 2005 16:33 GMT >As for having an undergrad degree, some of the schools I've looked at >say on their websites that technically you don't need one, just the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >person over me because of that. I figure do everything I can to get >into dental school. :-D Agree with you on above
I will definitely get a BS.
I was just amazed to learn that your undergrad degree can be MANY things other than health related..... i.e. such as your math degree.
I'm a bit naive abt this I suppose. But I'm learning pretty quick thanks to you guys wiling to share info!
jwn dds - 27 Jun 2005 17:40 GMT My father-inlaw is also a dentist and he was a teacher before. His credentials were B.Ed., D.D.S. I got the bachelor fo medical science so mine are B.Med.Sc., D.D.S.
The degree usually doesn't matter as long as you have the pre-requisites and high marks.
> >As for having an undergrad degree, some of the schools I've looked at >>say on their websites that technically you don't need one, just the [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > I'm a bit naive abt this I suppose. But I'm learning > pretty quick thanks to you guys wiling to share info!
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