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Dental school: What undergrad dgegree?

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me@privacy.net - 22 Jun 2005 21:08 GMT
Does it really matter what undergrad degree one has if
they think they may want to become a dentist?

Example.... could a person have an undergrad degree in
say engineering or computer science or accounting and
still become a dentist?
jwn dds - 22 Jun 2005 21:13 GMT
Sure... as long as you have all the pre-requisite courses.

> Does it really matter what undergrad degree one has if
> they think they may want to become a dentist?
>
> Example.... could a person have an undergrad degree in
> say engineering or computer science or accounting and
> still become a dentist?
W_B - 22 Jun 2005 21:31 GMT
>Does it really matter what undergrad degree one has if
>they think they may want to become a dentist?
>
>Example.... could a person have an undergrad degree in
>say engineering or computer science or accounting and
>still become a dentist?

Yes, if you have the dental school pre-requisites (sp?) to apply.
Grades count.
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Dr Steve - 22 Jun 2005 21:42 GMT
What's an undergraduate degree?

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Stephen [What's a Temporary?], D.D.S.
Michigan, USA
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This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only.
Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on
the advice or opinion expressed here.  Only a dentist who has examined you
in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect
your health.
......................

> Does it really matter what undergrad degree one has if
> they think they may want to become a dentist?
>
> Example.... could a person have an undergrad degree in
> say engineering or computer science or accounting and
> still become a dentist?
W_B - 22 Jun 2005 21:52 GMT
>What's an undergraduate degree?

Oh yeah, forgot I don't have one of those either.
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me@privacy.net - 22 Jun 2005 23:05 GMT
>>What's an undergraduate degree?

>Oh yeah, forgot I don't have one of those either.

Serious?

You don't need an undergrad degree?
Dr. Steve - 23 Jun 2005 03:05 GMT
>>>What's an undergraduate degree?
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>You don't need an undergrad degree?

Nope.

I had a "nice" GPA at the end of 3 years with almost zero liberal
arts classes.
..
Stephen
Troy, Michigan, USA

I am writing on a Tablet-PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my handwriting.
me@privacy.net - 23 Jun 2005 03:57 GMT
> I had a "nice" GPA at the end of 3 years with almost zero liberal
>arts classes.

so where did u go to dental school at?
Dr Steve - 23 Jun 2005 12:29 GMT
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Stephen [What's a Temporary?], D.D.S.
Michigan, USA
....................................................

This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only.
Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on
the advice or opinion expressed here.  Only a dentist who has examined you
in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect
your health.
......................

> >
>> I had a "nice" GPA at the end of 3 years with almost zero liberal
>>arts classes.
>
> so where did u go to dental school at?
W_B - 23 Jun 2005 16:19 GMT
>>>>What's an undergraduate degree?
>>
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>
>I am writing on a Tablet-PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my handwriting.

Same here H/C science.
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Dr. G. - 23 Jun 2005 07:06 GMT
> >>What's an undergraduate degree?
>
> Serious?
>
> You don't need an undergrad degree?

I didn't, BUT it was 1964. I don't know if things have changed. I would
think the absence of a bachelor's degree might be a negative when the
majority your competitors have one.
Very good grades might possibly counter the lack of a degree.
I may be able to find out the policy at UCSF if you'd like.

My 2 cents!

Dr. G., FACP
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Steven Fawks - 23 Jun 2005 17:54 GMT
At UMKC, if you have all of the required courses, an excellent GPA, do
well on the DAT, and interview well, the BS doesn't count for much.

Fawks

> I didn't, BUT it was 1964. I don't know if things have changed. I would
> think the absence of a bachelor's degree might be a negative when the
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Dr. G., FACP
me@privacy.net - 23 Jun 2005 18:26 GMT
>At UMKC, if you have all of the required courses, an excellent GPA, do
>well on the DAT, and interview well, the BS doesn't count for much.

Really?

So is it in best interest to get and undergrad degree
where the only goals is to get a high GPA then?  

IOW... take something easy?
Steven Fawks - 23 Jun 2005 19:18 GMT
Note "required courses".  This includes physics, anatomy, organic
chemistry, microbiology, etc., etc.  Nothing 'easy' about it.  There
isn't much room for 'fluff' courses to pad the GPA.

Fawks

>>At UMKC, if you have all of the required courses, an excellent GPA, do
>>well on the DAT, and interview well, the BS doesn't count for much.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> IOW... take something easy?
W_B - 24 Jun 2005 15:44 GMT
Sure there are, fluff like embryology, histology, comparative anatomy....

>Note "required courses".  This includes physics, anatomy, organic
>chemistry, microbiology, etc., etc.  Nothing 'easy' about it.  There
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>>
>> IOW... take something easy?

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W_B - 24 Jun 2005 15:42 GMT
>>At UMKC, if you have all of the required courses, an excellent GPA, do
>>well on the DAT, and interview well, the BS doesn't count for much.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>IOW... take something easy?

Yeah, something easy like organic chemistry.
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W_B - 24 Jun 2005 15:41 GMT
The BS only counts if it is a mile wide and a mile deep.

;-)

>At UMKC, if you have all of the required courses, an excellent GPA, do
>well on the DAT, and interview well, the BS doesn't count for much.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>>
>> Dr. G., FACP

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W_B - 23 Jun 2005 15:53 GMT
>>>What's an undergraduate degree?
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>You don't need an undergrad degree?

Back then, no; now days am not sure.
Keep in mind that I had all the pre requisites and
very good grades; just applied to see if I would get
in and did.
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CWatters - 23 Jun 2005 08:13 GMT
> Does it really matter what undergrad degree one has if
> they think they may want to become a dentist?

Entry qualifications for Cardiff (Wales, UK). Just need the equivalent of
A-Levels not a degree...
Scroll down..
http://coursefinder.cardiff.ac.uk/course_detail.shtml?course_id=15
Tom - 23 Jun 2005 20:48 GMT
>> Does it really matter what undergrad degree one has if
>> they think they may want to become a dentist?
>
>Entry qualifications for Cardiff (Wales, UK). Just need the equivalent of
>A-Levels not a degree...

It's different in the UK.  The course itself includes an undergrad
degree.  It's the same with Law degrees.  In the US they do a degree
first and then study to become a lawyer, while in the UK our students
study Law at undergrad level from the start.

Tom
barkerrd - 29 Jun 2005 17:32 GMT
This really depends on the school(s) to which you are considering
application. Instead of asking others, make an appointment with someone in
the dental school's admissions office. Ask that person what that school is
looking for in an applicant. In other words get involved with the school to
which you hope to go rather than guessing what is on their mind.
Three major attributes needed by an applicant to dental school:
1. Academic ability - especially in the sciences
2. Manual dexterity
3. The proper psychological makeup. This will only be discovered by spending
a lot of time in a dentist's office observing the good and bad aspects of
dentistry. See how your personality matches up with needed by a successful
dentist.

Most applicants know themselves well enough regarding #1 and #2 above. Very
few have considered #3.

A Former Dean Of Dental Admissions

>> Does it really matter what undergrad degree one has if
>> they think they may want to become a dentist?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Scroll down..
> http://coursefinder.cardiff.ac.uk/course_detail.shtml?course_id=15
barkerrd - 29 Jun 2005 17:37 GMT
This really depends on the school(s) to which you are considering
application. Instead of asking others, make an appointment with someone in
the dental school's admissions office. Ask that person what that school is
looking for in an applicant. In other words get involved with the school to
which you hope to go rather than guessing what is on their mind.
Three major attributes needed by an applicant to dental school:
1. Academic ability - especially in the sciences
2. Manual dexterity
3. The proper psychological makeup. This will only be discovered by spending
a lot of time in a dentist's office observing the good and bad aspects of
dentistry. See how your personality matches up with needed by a successful
dentist.

Most applicants know themselves well enough regarding #1 and #2 above. Very
few have considered #3.

A Former Dean Of Dental Admissions

>> Does it really matter what undergrad degree one has if
>> they think they may want to become a dentist?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Scroll down..
> http://coursefinder.cardiff.ac.uk/course_detail.shtml?course_id=15
barkerrd - 29 Jun 2005 17:37 GMT
This really depends on the school(s) to which you are considering
application. Instead of asking others, make an appointment with someone in
the dental school's admissions office. Ask that person what that school is
looking for in an applicant. In other words get involved with the school to
which you hope to go rather than guessing what is on their mind.
Three major attributes needed by an applicant to dental school:
1. Academic ability - especially in the sciences
2. Manual dexterity
3. The proper psychological makeup. This will only be discovered by spending
a lot of time in a dentist's office observing the good and bad aspects of
dentistry. See how your personality matches up with needed by a successful
dentist.

Most applicants know themselves well enough regarding #1 and #2 above. Very
few have considered #3.

A Former Dean Of Dental Admissions

>> Does it really matter what undergrad degree one has if
>> they think they may want to become a dentist?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Scroll down..
> http://coursefinder.cardiff.ac.uk/course_detail.shtml?course_id=15
barkerrd - 29 Jun 2005 17:37 GMT
This really depends on the school(s) to which you are considering
application. Instead of asking others, make an appointment with someone in
the dental school's admissions office. Ask that person what that school is
looking for in an applicant. In other words get involved with the school to
which you hope to go rather than guessing what is on their mind.
Three major attributes needed by an applicant to dental school:
1. Academic ability - especially in the sciences
2. Manual dexterity
3. The proper psychological makeup. This will only be discovered by spending
a lot of time in a dentist's office observing the good and bad aspects of
dentistry. See how your personality matches up with needed by a successful
dentist.

Most applicants know themselves well enough regarding #1 and #2 above. Very
few have considered #3.

A Former Dean Of Dental Admissions

>> Does it really matter what undergrad degree one has if
>> they think they may want to become a dentist?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Scroll down..
> http://coursefinder.cardiff.ac.uk/course_detail.shtml?course_id=15
barkerrd - 29 Jun 2005 17:38 GMT
This really depends on the school(s) to which you are considering
application. Instead of asking others, make an appointment with someone in
the dental school's admissions office. Ask that person what that school is
looking for in an applicant. In other words get involved with the school to
which you hope to go rather than guessing what is on their mind.
Three major attributes needed by an applicant to dental school:
1. Academic ability - especially in the sciences
2. Manual dexterity
3. The proper psychological makeup. This will only be discovered by spending
a lot of time in a dentist's office observing the good and bad aspects of
dentistry. See how your personality matches up with needed by a successful
dentist.

Most applicants know themselves well enough regarding #1 and #2 above. Very
few have considered #3.

A Former Dean Of Dental Admissions

>> Does it really matter what undergrad degree one has if
>> they think they may want to become a dentist?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Scroll down..
> http://coursefinder.cardiff.ac.uk/course_detail.shtml?course_id=15
jwn dds - 23 Jun 2005 15:13 GMT
For my school it was based on:

1. Pre-requisite courses successfully completed over 2 or more years.  Two
of those years had to be a full course-load (30 credits per year).
2. High GPA.  I had 3.96 out of 4 but I think others got in with 3.7 or so.
3. High marks on DAT exam
4. Interview

> Does it really matter what undergrad degree one has if
> they think they may want to become a dentist?
>
> Example.... could a person have an undergrad degree in
> say engineering or computer science or accounting and
> still become a dentist?
Jeff - 25 Jun 2005 02:17 GMT
Hi! I already have my B.S. degree in math and computers, and I'm going
back to school, taking a bunch of undergrad classes in biology and
chemistry so I can go to dental school. Since I'm working full time, it
will take me four semesters, or two years to take these classes before
I can start dental school. Oh yeah, and I just finished a summer term
of Psychology, as some schools like to see that on the transcript too.
(All the schools list the prerequisite classes you need right on their
websites.)

As for having an undergrad degree, some of the schools I've looked at
say on their websites that technically you don't need one, just the
prereqs, but they say it's rare they accept somebody without an
undergrad degree. Besides, if I didn't have a B.S. degree, I'd hate to
have it come down to me and one other person with equal credentials
except the other person has a B.S. degree and they end up choosing that
person over me because of that. I figure do everything I can to get
into dental school. :-D

Jeff

> Does it really matter what undergrad degree one has if
> they think they may want to become a dentist?
>
> Example.... could a person have an undergrad degree in
> say engineering or computer science or accounting and
> still become a dentist?
me@privacy.net - 25 Jun 2005 16:31 GMT
>Hi! I already have my B.S. degree in math and computers, and I'm going
>back to school, taking a bunch of undergrad classes in biology and
>chemistry so I can go to dental school.

Hi Jeff... nice to meet you!!

That's very cool that you are going back to school!

I'm especially intrigued that you have a math/computer
science degree!

Mind if I ask what you are doing for a living now?  I'm
assuming you works with computers such as in IT field?

If yes on the IT...why do you feel the need to leave IT
and go for dentistry?
me@privacy.net - 25 Jun 2005 16:33 GMT
>As for having an undergrad degree, some of the schools I've looked at
>say on their websites that technically you don't need one, just the
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>person over me because of that. I figure do everything I can to get
>into dental school. :-D

Agree with you on above

I will definitely get a BS.

I was just amazed to learn that your undergrad degree
can be MANY things other than health related..... i.e.
such as your math degree.

I'm a bit naive abt this I suppose.  But I'm learning
pretty quick thanks to you guys wiling to share info!
jwn dds - 27 Jun 2005 17:40 GMT
My father-inlaw is also a dentist and he was a teacher before.  His
credentials were B.Ed., D.D.S.  I got the bachelor fo medical science so
mine are B.Med.Sc., D.D.S.

The degree usually doesn't matter as long as you have the pre-requisites and
high marks.

> >As for having an undergrad degree, some of the schools I've looked at
>>say on their websites that technically you don't need one, just the
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> I'm a bit naive abt this I suppose.  But I'm learning
> pretty quick thanks to you guys wiling to share info!
 
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