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Top Signs You Have a Bad Dentist
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David - 08 Jun 2005 07:25 GMT I'm not sure whether you will have fun with this or give an honest answer. Maybe a little of both will be nice, but I would love to hear what you think are the top signs you have a bad dentist. :) posted at www.healthcareforums.org
Tony Bad - 09 Jun 2005 14:01 GMT > I'm not sure whether you will have fun with this or give an honest > answer. Maybe a little of both will be nice, but I would love to hear > what you think are the top signs you have a bad dentist. :) > posted at www.healthcareforums.org He keeps asking you..."Is it safe?"
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carabelli - 09 Jun 2005 14:27 GMT 2. He has books in his office written by Hulda Clark and Hal Huggins
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W_B - 09 Jun 2005 20:13 GMT >2. He has books in his office written by Hulda Clark and Hal Huggins > >carabelli ja|\|dre\/\/ is in the waiting room. --
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CWatters - 10 Jun 2005 07:56 GMT > >2. He has books in his office written by Hulda Clark and Hal Huggins > > > >carabelli > > ja|\|dre\/\/ is in the waiting room. He works on two people at the same time and gets your names mixed up.
W_B - 10 Jun 2005 16:51 GMT >> On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 13:27:53 GMT, "carabelli" <redslaz3@att.net.not> >wrote: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >He works on two people at the same time and gets your names mixed up. Or worse, gets the tooth numbers mixed up. --
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letsconnect - 09 Jun 2005 19:51 GMT > I'm not sure whether you will have fun with this or give an honest > answer. Maybe a little of both will be nice, but I would love to hear > what you think are the top signs you have a bad dentist. :) > posted at www.healthcareforums.org My personal "favourite": tx plan ENDS with a cleaning...
Charlie - 10 Jun 2005 00:27 GMT Wears black leather, rIdes a motorcycle, picture of mom on the altar in the closet.....
Charlie - 10 Jun 2005 01:34 GMT OK, OK....I'll be serious:
I'm trying to think about common denominators for bad dentists .....things that a layperson might notice, and I'm kinda coming up blank. An awful lot of smart people go to bad dentists for years.
I mean, I have my prejudices, but I can't take them too seriously.
Like: dentists who advertise. Some of the real hacks around here advertise heavily. Buuuut....I've advertised, don't think I'm a hack. And I know some great docs with a half page in the phone book.
Dentists who delegate excessively to auxiliaries. I used to watch one DDS's assistants making dentures, start to finish, as I looked from my 10th story suite into his 9th floor office in the next building. Ethics committee eventually ran him out of town. Buuuut, overall, expanded duties have enriched the profession, I think. Where do yo draw the line?
Maybe this one: dentists who always seem to be in a hurry. Yes, we're all busy, but I favor health care providers - in any specialty - who pay sufficient attention to my care. If your doc works 4 operatories and doesn't at least say hello when you're in for recall......I'd wonder, myself.
carabelli - 10 Jun 2005 02:30 GMT "Charlie via MedKB.com" <forum@MedKB.com>...................
> Maybe this one: dentists who always seem to be in a hurry. Yes, we're all > busy,........ personal defense.
Been short 2 out of 5 employees since last Fri - unplanned sickness - just happens - what do I do, send patients showing up on time home??. School's just now out so the schedule *every single day* has been 3 patients show up one appointment block late (I couldn't get him out of bed -she was at a friends etc.,), 3 show up on time, and 3 show up one appointment block early (please hurry - car keys jingling - soccer, ballet, basketball camp - which starts in 5 min, and could you please make a donation to sponsor him/her in a bogus modeling contest). So, 9 people to see in time that was adequately allotted for 3 people. Another plus, I'm seeing people that postponed appts due 2-3 weeks ago because they decided to wait until school was out. I end up looking like a cheapskate that won't hire enough help. In the past I have sent some of the late shows home and asked them to reschedule. They were not happy campers and I learned a long time ago not to try that again. I'm a parent also and I realise sometimes it is impossible to get all the activities in - just don't expect the impossible on a regular basis at my office. But, be aware, half the time I will provide the impossible.
To be honest I'm surprised I haven't developed a facial tic this week. Patients only see a backed up office and don't know we have had 2 employees call in sick 20 min before the first patient is scheduled..
Not a rant, just a chance for patients to see the other side of the story. It happens every year. Kinda like the movie " It Happens Every Spring", except for my office, every first two weeks school's out........... And, it's more fun to watch " It Happens Every Spring", quite dopey but I loved getting to see it in grade school - reserved for the "fun" days at the end of the year when we were rained out from outside activities.
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LeFort3 - 10 Jun 2005 04:11 GMT >"Charlie via MedKB.com" <forum@MedKB.com>................... > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >Patients only see a backed up office and don't know we have had 2 employees >call in sick 20 min before the first patient is scheduled.. The funny thing about times like these, I tend to be done early or just in a nick-of-time so everyone, including my employees, are happy.
I too used to be much less tolerant of those that felt my time extended to our time to just their time when nothing happens to be convenient. I gave up worrying about it when my kids would undergo a simultaneous sickness that started first thing in the morning. My wife and I just look at each other and ask 'how many patients are you going to piss off today by calling out?' Whoever has less wins and goes to work. I have gained a much better appreciation for 'sh.t happens' from multiple perspectives.
>Not a rant, just a chance for patients to see the other side of the story. >It happens every year. Kinda like the movie " It Happens Every Spring", [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >carabelli carabelli - 10 Jun 2005 05:03 GMT "LeFort3" <lefort3@verizn.net> wrote......................
Whoever has less wins and goes to
> work. I have gained a much better appreciation for 'sh.t happens' from > multiple perspectives. Thanks Dave, I can count on one hand how many times I have missed work in the last 15 yrs. When I came in it was nothing I felt would compromise the patient - doc deal as far as getting them sick too, just the unavoidable winter virus crud (I've been blessed). Invariably, those would be the days we should have had a deck of cards because nobody showed while I paid my staff, rent, utilities, insurance............
Again, this is not a rant. Just one of those things that patients don't usually have any reason to consider.
OTOH, there have been winter days that I *absolutely* knew no one would show, especially my staff, on some brutal winter days. I live close and always come in anyway and there would be someone that had driven through some of the nastiest winter slush, ice, snow, wind that Kansas can offer. And I show up 20 min early and there they are. Ready to see me and make a day of it (because they live an hour or two away) in the city because school is out. You gotta love it
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LeFort3 - 10 Jun 2005 06:12 GMT >"LeFort3" <lefort3@verizn.net> wrote...................... > > Whoever has less wins and goes to >> work. I have gained a much better appreciation for 'sh.t happens' from >> multiple perspectives. I actually goofed, that should have said who ever had 'more' ( as in potential # of angry patients or, just as importantly, more money to lose) goes to work. Oh the beauty of married professionals. Let me tell you, something that had to be learned and a much more important lesson. Besides, who can find a sitter at 6 AM?
>Thanks Dave, I can count on one hand how many times I have missed work in >the last 15 yrs. When I came in it was nothing I felt would compromise the >patient - doc deal as far as getting them sick too, just the unavoidable >winter virus crud (I've been blessed). Invariably, those would be the days >we should have had a deck of cards because nobody showed while I paid my >staff, rent, utilities, insurance............ I am actually on the lamb now for the first time in years. Aggravated a long standing minor problem that turned into a bilateral problem. Gotta love defects in the inguinal wall. Worst part, I dont know what to do with myself.
>Again, this is not a rant. Just one of those things that patients don't >usually have any reason to consider. Absolutely. Reference frames are neat. I can honestly say that no patient has ever really complained to me when I see them or talk with them over the phone and just say hey, the kids were throwing up. Sure they were probably irritated, as am I when they no-show, but what goes around comes around. They show up unexpected, my kids are sick and I drew the short straw; I gotta run to the OR and cancel an afternoon, they no-showed me last week.
>OTOH, there have been winter days that I *absolutely* knew no one would >show, especially my staff, on some brutal winter days. I live close and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >day of it (because they live an hour or two away) in the city because >school is out. You gotta love it I hear you. I am 25 miles from my office and my partners, especially the Sr. guy, is alot closer. He never skips a day due to weather. Me, well, I love the snow. DE & south NJ isnt western PA where I grew up but I get my butt in there to see smiling, appreciative faces.
Dave
>carabelli carabelli - 10 Jun 2005 13:13 GMT And of course this morning another asst calls in to say she won't be in today. Since I only work till noon today I should be able to squeeze in enough time to go bang my head against the wall.
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Dr. Steve - 10 Jun 2005 13:53 GMT >And of course this morning another asst calls in to say she won't be in >today. Since I only work till noon today I should be able to squeeze in >enough time to go bang my head against the wall. > >carabelli Try an Isolite for full mouth bonding You will get the case bonded on as quickly as if your DA was there. .. Stephen Troy, Michigan, USA
I am writing on a Tablet-PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my handwriting.
carabelli - 10 Jun 2005 14:01 GMT > >And of course this morning another asst calls in to say she won't be in > >today. Since I only work till noon today I should be able to squeeze in [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Stephen > Troy, Michigan, USA Would you mind dropping that off in a half hour? That's when it's going to turn into a Chinese Fire Drill here. This makes 5 out of the last 6 days I've been short.
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Dr. Steve - 10 Jun 2005 14:10 GMT >> >And of course this morning another asst calls in to say she won't be in >> >today. Since I only work till noon today I should be able to squeeze in [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >carabelli Any chance they have the "Blue Flu"? .. Stephen Troy, Michigan, USA
I am writing on a Tablet-PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my handwriting.
LeFort3 - 10 Jun 2005 14:37 GMT >And of course this morning another asst calls in to say she won't be in >today. Since I only work till noon today I should be able to squeeze in >enough time to go bang my head against the wall. > >carabelli Geez...
I can get you one of those special helmets that will help with this. They work great and you can write it off.
Good luck and atleast its a short day.....
W_B - 10 Jun 2005 16:52 GMT >And of course this morning another asst calls in to say she won't be in >today. Since I only work till noon today I should be able to squeeze in >enough time to go bang my head against the wall. > >carabelli Or bang the assistant ? --
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kureforcrohns@sbcglobal.net - 10 Jun 2005 17:12 GMT Not a bad dentist, but a bad pronouncement. Leaving the practice of one day a week in the city due to lease problems and only being at the main office out in osh kosh, where nobody from the city can get to. What a predicament. Hard to understand after following him to 3 locations, the first being two blocks from home.
Gail
Roy Brown - 11 Jun 2005 04:49 GMT If this is a predictable pattern, why not book those two weeks light and allow the Snafu's to fill in the spaces to a normal schedule? A lot easier on the SL&HM.
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| carabelli Stormin Mormon - 12 Jun 2005 14:54 GMT The dentist who treated me when I was a kid. When he'd drill, and it would hurt like hell. I would tell him, and he would look confused. He'd say "I can't understand it, there is no nerve in that tooth" and would go back to drilling. What did I know? He was the guy in the white suit.
My present dentist, if it hurts he puts in some more mepivicaine. And he stops and asks if it's comfortable.
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OK, OK....I'll be serious:
I'm trying to think about common denominators for bad dentists .....things that a layperson might notice, and I'm kinda coming up blank. An awful lot of smart people go to bad dentists for years.
Gomer Einstein - 14 Jun 2005 14:21 GMT He's not wearing any pants. His dog has braces. He has a hook for a hand. He's wearing a necklace made of teeth. Picks his nose...'nuff said. His name is Josef Mengele, III. Circumcisions are a sideline. His office has bald tires. Asks if you "really need those lips." Three words: Silent but deadly.
Stormin Mormon - 14 Jun 2005 18:19 GMT Has to wipe the dirty needle on his pants before injecting novocaine Business cards refer to "Extractions: Dental and obstetric" Shaky hands Dentist has missing teeth Straps your hands to the chair before drilling Wears hearing protection earmuffs while drilling Has to change the light bulb in the floor lamp in the corner before drilling Adresses you by the wrong name Smells like whiskey sours There is a Makita drill box on the floor in the corner
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He's not wearing any pants. His dog has braces. He has a hook for a hand. He's wearing a necklace made of teeth. Picks his nose...'nuff said. His name is Josef Mengele, III. Circumcisions are a sideline. His office has bald tires. Asks if you "really need those lips." Three words: Silent but deadly.
Dr Steve - 14 Jun 2005 18:43 GMT Glad no one said a sign was if he drove some strange and obscure 40 year old car to work everyday.
 Signature ~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen [What's a Temporary?], D.D.S. Michigan, USA ....................................................
This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ......................
> He's not wearing any pants. > His dog has braces. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Asks if you "really need those lips." > Three words: Silent but deadly. Gomer Einstein - 14 Jun 2005 20:47 GMT I think the patients think the car is classy; it's just if the driver's seat is a dentist chair that puts them off.
Dr Steve - 14 Jun 2005 21:36 GMT Okay, I'll accept that as a good pun.
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This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ......................
> I think the patients think the car is classy; it's just if the > driver's seat is a dentist chair that puts them off. David - 10 Jun 2005 18:21 GMT "Sorry your insurance doesn't cover novacain. Now, sit back and relax." :) posted at www.healthcareforums.org
Gomer Einstein - 14 Jun 2005 14:05 GMT Matt - 27 Jun 2005 20:08 GMT > what you think are the top signs you have a bad dentist. :) His dumpster is overflowing with empty soda cans.
You overhear his receptionist ordering a truck to pick up his amalgam shipment at the railroad depot.
He is missing numbers 8, 9, and 10.
His eyes move furtively as he gives you a stock tip: buy and hold Coca-Cola.
More than once during your visit, he suddenly grins and shouts, "Don't you love caramel corn?!"
W_B - 27 Jun 2005 20:26 GMT >> what you think are the top signs you have a bad dentist. :)
>More than once during your visit, he suddenly grins and shouts, "Don't >you love caramel corn?!" Great ! --
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