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You forgot smokeless tobacco. One guy with a bad looking snuff lesion
never got oral cancer, but it did develop in his throat (I couldn't see
down there). Killed him too. Nice guy in his 50's.
Fawks
> The vast majority of oral cancer victims are heavy smokers and heavy
> drinkers. Charging $65 for a cancer check when it should be included in
> every oral exam is IMO unconscionable.
>
> Steve
Steven Bornfeld - 08 Jun 2005 14:24 GMT
> You forgot smokeless tobacco. One guy with a bad looking snuff lesion
> never got oral cancer, but it did develop in his throat (I couldn't see
> down there). Killed him too. Nice guy in his 50's.
>
> Fawks
Thanks--you're right of course. We don't have too much of that in NY
however, so I haven't seen it.
Steve
>> The vast majority of oral cancer victims are heavy smokers and
>> heavy drinkers. Charging $65 for a cancer check when it should be
>> included in every oral exam is IMO unconscionable.
>>
>> Steve

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Steven Fawks - 08 Jun 2005 18:07 GMT
>> You forgot smokeless tobacco. One guy with a bad looking snuff lesion
>> never got oral cancer, but it did develop in his throat (I couldn't see
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> Steve
It is rampant around these parts. My son just finished his freshman
year at college playing baseball and 50-75% of the PLAYERS had a 'dip'
during every game.
He thanked me for being a dentist (it relieved the peer pressure when
he used me as an excuse for not partaking).
Fawks
StovePipe - 09 Jun 2005 05:14 GMT
> It [smokeless chaw]is rampant around these parts. My son just finished
> his freshman year at college playing baseball and 50-75% of the PLAYERS
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> Fawks
If you could get your IntraOral camera far enough down to the back of
the throat as I just described, and snap a pic of a lesion or two, and
then post them in your office, and then volunteer to examine the ball
team, you might get a few more to stop chewing while they're still
young.
Just an Idea
SP

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StovePipe - 09 Jun 2005 05:14 GMT
> You forgot smokeless tobacco. One guy with a bad looking snuff lesion
> never got oral cancer, but it did develop in his throat (I couldn't see
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> > Steve
Actually you _can_ see down the throat quite a ways: Ask the patient to
stick out the tongue and attempt to say "eeeeeee" in a high voice.
gently insert the mirror into the oro-pharynx and look quickly. You
should see right down to the vocal chords. Once they stop singing, the
oro-pharynx closes real quick and they will gag, so be quick. If they
can't control their tongue, grab it in a 2X2 gauze and gently pull it
out. If I had an I/O camera. I'd be doing this with that and snapping a
quick picture; or have it record in movie mode as some cameras can do.
This is not something you want to do with every patient every time, but
a chewin' tobacco or heavy smoker will probably see the usefullness.
SP

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