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Dental Office Chains
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David - 31 May 2005 17:52 GMT Do you think there are any good chains out there Or is private practice nearly always the way to go
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 31 May 2005 19:01 GMT > Do you think there are any good chains out there? > Or is private practice nearly always the way to go? There is no such thing as a "good chain". You are being treated by a dentist. There may well be good dentists working there, but from everything I've heard they are generally not treated well, and most leave to start their own practices as soon as they can. So if you do happen to get a good dentist, it is quite likely that when you go back for a checkup a year later, he/she won't be there anymore.
Steve
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spondee@cox.net - 31 May 2005 20:50 GMT >So if you do happen to get a good >dentist, it is quite likely that when you go back for a checkup a year >later, he/she won't be there anymore. That's been MY experience. On top of which, I've never gotten a 'good' dentist. Only the mediocre that did no more damage!
spondee@cox.net - 31 May 2005 20:54 GMT >> Do you think there are any good chains out there? >> Or is private practice nearly always the way to go? Ooops. Forgot to say: There are apparently some 'denture only' clinics that are getting really good reviews from denture wearers.
Don't have the names (2 of 'em), but remember they were in mid-west and Denver????
I've heard that they even use GOOD labs or have their own! (Half the equation as far as I'm concerned - for dentures.)
No matter HOW good a dentist might be, if they use a low-quality lab...
I know I sure wish we had one of these 'denture only' clinics here in SD.
W_B - 31 May 2005 21:02 GMT >I know I sure wish we had one of these 'denture only' clinics here in >SD. In my experience denture mills produce a poor quality product.
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spondee@cox.net - 31 May 2005 21:29 GMT >In my experience denture mills produce a poor quality product. Ahhh, but as compared too....
No dentures? Dentures of a terrible quality??? Self-repaired dentures?
It's all a matter of perspective to the poor!
W_B - 31 May 2005 21:37 GMT >>In my experience denture mills produce a poor quality product. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >It's all a matter of perspective to the poor! Quality is quality, accept no substitutes. --
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Bill - 01 Jun 2005 18:25 GMT > >> Do you think there are any good chains out there? > >> Or is private practice nearly always the way to go? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > I know I sure wish we had one of these 'denture only' clinics here in > SD. You can find a good number of denture clinics here in SD, despite the fact that fewer and fewer people need dentures these days. More people are keeping most of their natural teeth. And many of the folks who would have worn dentures years ago, are now opting for implants instead.
With a declining patient base, most of the "dentures-only" clinics have taken on other types of dental treatment in order to expand their revenues, but they still make dentures as they always have. In my experience, the quality of their output varies widely.
And in California, unlike the other states, you also have to remember that some dentists here have never attended an accredited dental school. When you go to a chain-style volume-oriented mass clinic, and you aren't familiar with your doctor, how much do you really know about his education and abilities?
Good luck, dentaldoc
spondee@cox.net - 02 Jun 2005 06:26 GMT >You can find a good number of denture clinics here in SD, Would you email me the NAMES of some of these??? I live in Central SD area...
TIA
budgenator - 02 Jun 2005 01:29 GMT I'm a tech my former employer/Dentist got into the mill business as an employee at another office after he sold his practice, (love the new owner). The biggest problem with these guys is they always get back to where they want you to work too fast and too cheap; all they can think of is production. When everthing goes well it's because they are "good", when it doesn't it's always because you're "bad", so eventually it start to drag your self-esteem down. They always want to talk about a case too, which means how to try and fix something the Dentist butchred. The cases that are presented to the mill dentist are more challenging, because of the type of people that are attracted to the mill dentist, they've run their mouths into the ground and expect a "perfect"denture just because they've paid half the going rate. Finally just when you've decided to invest in some capital equipment to increase your productivity, they wig-out and run off to some other lab offering them $5.00 less than you were charging. Two months later they come back and want you to fix junk they got from the other lab, and go faster to catch up. Mill Dentist and Med Patient, same person, different perspective. If your a dentist, find a reasonably good lab, and treat them with respect. In the long run it'll same you money, chairtime and help keep you sane.
spondee@cox.net - 02 Jun 2005 06:46 GMT >The cases that are presented to the mill dentist are more >challenging, because of the type of people that are attracted to the >mill dentist, they've run their mouths into the ground and expect a >"perfect"denture just because they've paid half the goi I must object to this! It is a bigoted and uneducated statement!!!
I paid for YEARS, AND YEARS, for dental work, apio's, root canals, posts, crowns, bridges, flippers, partials, filling, re-fillings, re-root canals, friggen forever!
I flossed, I brushed, I rinsed, I went to dentist AT LEAST once per year. I got consults!
Only to lose my teeth, mainly one by one, from what was diagnosed as 'dry mouth'. Many, many years later, it was determined that the 'dry mouth' was caused by the actual destruction of salivary glands (as are my 'dry eyes') from undiagnosed Hereditary Hemochromatosis!
The ONLY thing that could have saved my teeth would have been diagnosis & treatment years earlier.
Now that I'm totally disabled, including fighting off 4 unrelated cancers (triggered by above genetic disorder), And I'm living on UNDER $900 a month you can bet your last penny I'm looking for the highest quality, lowest cost denture I can find!
If I still lived in the city where I had most of my dental work; I'd be going back to those dentists (who apparently didn't have a clue and could care less about WHY I was losing my teeth) and paid all that $$$ to, and I'd tell 'em to their face that they OWED me a top notch pair of choppers for half-price!!!
Dr Steve - 02 Jun 2005 12:18 GMT Yes, I learned this thirty years ago.
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> I'm a tech my former employer/Dentist got into the mill business as an > employee at another office after he sold his practice, (love the new [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > respect. In the long run it'll same you money, chairtime and help keep > you sane. W_B - 02 Jun 2005 16:07 GMT >If your a dentist, find a reasonably good lab, and treat them with >respect. In the long run it'll same you money, chairtime and help keep >you sane. Have used the same prosthetics lab for 18 years. Sure, labs fees have gone up, but so have mine. --
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Vaughn Simon - 02 Jun 2005 16:48 GMT >> Have used the same prosthetics lab for 18 years. > Sure, labs fees have gone up, but so have mine. See? Inflation!
Vaughn ;-)
W_B - 02 Jun 2005 17:33 GMT >>> Have used the same prosthetics lab for 18 years. >> Sure, labs fees have gone up, but so have mine. > > See? Inflation! > >Vaughn ;-) Silly rabbit, kicks are for trids... --
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W_B - 31 May 2005 19:15 GMT >Do you think there are any good chains out there? No.
>Or is private practice nearly always the way to go? Yep, at least for me. --
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David - 31 May 2005 20:42 GMT Personally, my worst experiences were always with chains, so that i why I asked, but I see your point that some young (but good) dentist might work for a chain posted at www.healthcareforums.org
W_B - 31 May 2005 20:48 GMT >Personally, my worst experiences were always with chains, so that is >why I asked, but I see your point that some young (but good) dentists >might work for a chain. It is a good way to gain some speed and experience for some recent grads. --
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Steven Fawks - 31 May 2005 21:53 GMT A down side is that not all young grads are good and all of the dentists working for a given chain are forced to work under guidelines set up by the chain to maximize profits. Patient needs are secondary at best.
It might get you by in a pinch, but I wouldn't want to depend upon one for my long term care.
Fawks
>>Personally, my worst experiences were always with chains, so that is >>why I asked, but I see your point that some young (but good) dentists [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Take out the G'RBAGE > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com spondee@cox.net - 01 Jun 2005 07:05 GMT >It might get you by in a pinch, but I wouldn't want to depend upon one >for my long term care. uh, don't have a choice...
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